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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:27 pm

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Scumslip? where?
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:27 pm

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I'm pretty sure I was the third vote on BK, maybe less.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:30 pm

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kondi2424 wrote:Good call, vijay. UNVOTE:

MattP wrote:
This is bullshit kondi, how the fuck was it a good call? He didn't reveal anything we didn't already know, you just piggybacked his point. Well guess what, you and Kass are scumbuddies and that's why you were so hesitant to get on the wagon and were so quick to get off for BS reasoning. After we get him lynched you're next

kondi2424 wrote:Matt, like I said, I'm not retarded. If he were my buddy, I would have bussed that shit to next week.
I want to see if there are any Fith Healer CCs first.

MattP wrote:You can't refute every point made against you with WIFOM, that's not how this works. Your vote on Kass has nothing to do with Faith Healer roleclaims, you could have had your vote on him and also waited for counterclaims, that's a
blatant fucking lie.


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until there is a counterclaim, which there won't be because Psyche and vijay are town and even if vijay was scum he wouldn't claim because the last faith healer would have no reason not to counterclaim, there should be pressure on Kass. I stick to the fact that your unvote on Kass and your reasoning for it are incredibly scummy.

It's a scumslip because his reasoning for unvoting was a LIE.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:30 pm

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Maybe we should scan BK. I'm getting strong null reads from that fellow.

Yeah, my answer to my own question is BK.

I'm kind of curious about Om's usefulness.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:32 pm

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MattP wrote:
kondi2424 wrote:Good call, vijay. UNVOTE:

MattP wrote:
This is bullshit kondi, how the fuck was it a good call? He didn't reveal anything we didn't already know, you just piggybacked his point. Well guess what, you and Kass are scumbuddies and that's why you were so hesitant to get on the wagon and were so quick to get off for BS reasoning. After we get him lynched you're next

kondi2424 wrote:Matt, like I said, I'm not retarded. If he were my buddy, I would have bussed that shit to next week.
I want to see if there are any Fith Healer CCs first.

MattP wrote:You can't refute every point made against you with WIFOM, that's not how this works. Your vote on Kass has nothing to do with Faith Healer roleclaims, you could have had your vote on him and also waited for counterclaims, that's a
blatant fucking lie.


MattP wrote:
until there is a counterclaim, which there won't be because Psyche and vijay are town and even if vijay was scum he wouldn't claim because the last faith healer would have no reason not to counterclaim, there should be pressure on Kass. I stick to the fact that your unvote on Kass and your reasoning for it are incredibly scummy.

It's a scumslip because his reasoning for unvoting was a LIE.


I'm not contradicting this since I want kondi lynched, but I'd like to note that this isn't the sole reason why kondi needs to die.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:32 pm

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That's not a slip. Lying isnt something only scum do.

Furthermore I thought he understood the point I made about shotgun copping Kass.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:35 pm

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MattP wrote:You can't refute every point made against you with WIFOM, that's not how this works.

Your vote on Kass has nothing to do with Faith Healer roleclaims, you could have had your vote on him and also waited for counterclaims, that's a blatant fucking lie.

Can't wait to see you and Kass as Deadscum

Om of the Nom wrote:@Psyche: Answer this question honestly, would you attack Fate for playing like this?

Om of the Nom wrote:Hey, my gut reads are great, and you should all listen to me. Fate told me to be super special confident in my reads and I'm totally following that advice with all my heart.

PEDIT: If he flips town then oh well, my gut was wrong for once. But he won't flip town because my gut read is on him.

Om of the Nom wrote:I'm playing basically the same way Fate does in almost all of his games. Knowing that would you attack him?

Om of the Nom wrote:This is the way Fate plays, he finds a target and stops at nothing to get them lynched. If I'm going to be attacked for playing like this when he does it all the time and gets off scot free then I will be pissed.

Om of the Nom wrote:Sorry, can't explain the gut reads any further. Just learn to trust my gut, it's really awesome.
You're scum(or at the very least anti-town) for adapting somebody's playstyle and using it as an excuse to be an idiot rather than you be pro-town.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:36 pm

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Kassadin is Town on this one. I just have strong feeling inside me.

Did anyone counter-claim? Frankly, can't be fucked to read all the shits and rants about CCings and all that shit.
If someone did, s/he is scum-fucks.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:36 pm

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@Psyche, I know but this is the most offensive

vijay2vasandani wrote:That's not a slip. Lying isnt something only scum do.

Furthermore I thought he understood the point I made about shotgun copping Kass.

Kondi agreed we don't want kass in lylo even if he is town so we want to policy lynch him. Kondi when against that by suddenly being ok with him being town via a shotgun scan. This was a blatant backtrack.

Second, if he says good point to the shotgun argument and unvotes and then he claims the reason is to see if there is a counterclaim to the FHs, then he changed his story ie he lied.

p-edit: BK, did you accidentally quote my one post at the top of your last post or do you have a response?
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:37 pm

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vijay2vasandani wrote:That's not a slip. Lying isnt something only scum do.

Furthermore I thought he understood the point I made about shotgun copping Kass.


Okay. Do you think Kondi is town?
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:38 pm

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VOTE: BK
Cuz I feel like it. I expect OmNom's Free Prize thing is still valid.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:38 pm

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BK201 wrote:
MattP wrote:You can't refute every point made against you with WIFOM, that's not how this works.

Your vote on Kass has nothing to do with Faith Healer roleclaims, you could have had your vote on him and also waited for counterclaims, that's a blatant fucking lie.

Can't wait to see you and Kass as Deadscum

Om of the Nom wrote:@Psyche: Answer this question honestly, would you attack Fate for playing like this?

Om of the Nom wrote:Hey, my gut reads are great, and you should all listen to me. Fate told me to be super special confident in my reads and I'm totally following that advice with all my heart.

PEDIT: If he flips town then oh well, my gut was wrong for once. But he won't flip town because my gut read is on him.

Om of the Nom wrote:I'm playing basically the same way Fate does in almost all of his games. Knowing that would you attack him?

Om of the Nom wrote:This is the way Fate plays, he finds a target and stops at nothing to get them lynched. If I'm going to be attacked for playing like this when he does it all the time and gets off scot free then I will be pissed.

Om of the Nom wrote:Sorry, can't explain the gut reads any further. Just learn to trust my gut, it's really awesome.
You're scum(or at the very least anti-town) for adapting somebody's playstyle and using it as an excuse to be an idiot rather than you be pro-town.


He's antitown. You'll have to get over that and focus on players who are scummy like your win condition supposedly tells you to.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:39 pm

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I meant to say I agree with that post Matt. Wow drm. wow.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:39 pm

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drmyshotgun wrote:VOTE: BK
Cuz I feel like it. I expect OmNom's Free Prize thing is still valid.


Compromise: Vote Kondi; Scan BK

I think it's time to form that voting block now that the PRs have claimed.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:40 pm

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Wow, who are the PRs?
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:41 pm

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lynch all liars. UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kondi

P-Edit: Vjay and Psyche have claimed the FH's
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:42 pm

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VOTE: Kondi

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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:43 pm

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Vijay and Psyche? I love them. <3
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:44 pm

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I will agree to a voting block with the following players:

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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:45 pm

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@Matt: There is no lie there. I unvoted because I would vote any CC over Kass. I then changed my mind on lynching Kassadin after you went apeshit and decided lynching scum was a better idea.

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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:46 pm

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Towns are:
Me
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P-Edit: I'm following the wagon.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:46 pm

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Knew Voting Block thing was too fishy to be true.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:49 pm

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Kondi is L-2
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:49 pm

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I want in my voting block:

Shotgun
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Me
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Voting Bloc Rules:
The point of a voting bloc is to usefully organize votes such that things get done. Players will have to compromise and vote for their null reads when doing this. Discussion, however, should be free, as free discourse allows ideas to compete and the best ones to win.

When a plurality of players in a voting bloc decide to seriously vote for someone, that plurality can entreat other players in the bloc to vote the player by producing a point-by-point case against him.

Unless other players in the bloc have strong town reads on that player and can justify them, these players should join the plurality and give it strength.


This is useful to all players in the bloc, because it strengthens their voice by rendering other players amenable to compromise. However, for the efficacy of the bloc to be successful, all players must be willing to compromise on their null reads.

Which if you are game?
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 2:50 pm

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Say /in if you agree. If you don't want someone in the bloc, say so and we will compromise.
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