Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[BK201]

and put our game in your sig.

[Chrimi]

Lolk.

[Psyche]

Goddamn it. Guys, I've worked so hard to build the capital necessary to ensure a strong N1. Are guys seriously still doubting my Townhood? After all of this?

DUH, YES.

The way you claimed made it so the FH's would both think they were the 'other' FH's, and ensure that the cop wasn't protected for an NK. The next day you could say "Damn looks like I'm unlucky" Or some shit. When vijay claimed, it was to make things simple so that the real other FH could also claim if there was one, therefore putting fake claiming out of the picture.

This makes Psyche scum, Vijay town.

But, Vijay could've claimed just to get the other FH to come out of his hiding.

So it really could be either one.

I still think Psyche is more likely...

You're reasoning just isn't correct. I'm not sure how you impose thinking processes on players as you read them, but you're doing it wrong.

Optimal scumplay is to NK the claimant who is has the most social capital in this issue — Chrimi. So shotty scanning one of us, regardless of his choice, should work fine.

Of course, scum could also target shotty and take a 50% risk. That would leave D2 in chaos. High risk, high reward.

Sigh. We have a plan, guys. The night will be a mystery, but at least we're pushing into the unknown with intelligence.

Vijay's hammer ruined the Day. I didn't want to lynch someone with such a low postcount...My read was leaning scum at best. Kassadin was still the best choice.

[Chrimi]

If only I had time to claim before the day end...

I'll protect either Psyche or Vijay. Whichever one of you is

real

, protect shotty. Shotty, scan vijay or psyche. We lynch based on what you scan.

If our 50% chance of protection fails, day 2 will be fucked over.

P-edit: Bah, pretty much saying the same thing as me D:

[BK201]

Even if scum win the coin toss, we will root the liar out, rest assured.

[Chrimi]

Well, that's good.

On the high chance that I get killed tonight, it means the cop survives and well... You guys know what to do.

If vijay ends up scum, his buddy is obv. kondi.

GG in advance.

[kondi2424]

FMPOV it's Chrimi or Psyche. From everyone else's POV it's vijay or Psyche.

Guess what would make everyone happy?

[Mortontfrh]

I didn't want to lynch someone with such a low postcount...My read was leaning scum at best. Kassadin was still the best choice.

Why do you say that you don't want to lynch someone with such a low post count and then say that Kassadin would have been a preferable lynch? Kassadin hasn't posted that much more than me and almost all of his posts have been short 1 liner type of ordeals.

[Psyche]

Agh. My read on Vijay is better than mine on Chrimi. Chrimi's claim is his sole redemption.

I hope shotgun scans vijay. Oh well, I'm going to bed.

[Venmar]

FMPOV it's Chrimi or Psyche. From everyone else's POV it's vijay or Psyche.

Guess what would make everyone happy?

What?

[BK201]

I didn't want to lynch someone with such a low postcount...My read was leaning scum at best. Kassadin was still the best choice.

Why do you say that you don't want to lynch someone with such a low post count and then say that Kassadin would have been a preferable lynch? Kassadin hasn't posted that much more than me and almost all of his posts have been short 1 liner type of ordeals.

Kassadin is a troll.

[kondi2424]

Morton, Kassadin was the default PL.

PEdit: -_-

A Psyche investigation would meet everyone's demands.

[BK201]

FMPOV it's Chrimi or Psyche. From everyone else's POV it's vijay or Psyche.

Guess what would make everyone happy?

Except no, it's not that simple. It has to be Vjay or Psyche, not straight up just Psyche.

[Psyche]

I didn't want to lynch someone with such a low postcount...My read was leaning scum at best. Kassadin was still the best choice.

Why do you say that you don't want to lynch someone with such a low post count and then say that Kassadin would have been a preferable lynch? Kassadin hasn't posted that much more than me and almost all of his posts have been short 1 liner type of ordeals.

Kass is the generic PL choice. A perfect backup lynch. Since she exists, the value of lynching any player must exceed that of losing her.

[Chrimi]

No, Kondi.

Scan vijay, when it says he's town then only you will have a problem kondi.
If it says he's scum, then we'll have the scum (And you his partner).

So it would actually be best to scan vijay.

[kondi2424]

So a scan between Vijay and Psyche wouldn't make a difference, as you get the same info, right?

[BK201]

No Kondi, because you will just campaign that it must be Chrimi.

[Chrimi]

Yep. If he scans Vijay, and he's town, we know Psyche is scum. If we scan Psyche, and he's town, we know Vijay is scum.

P-edit: I agree with BK. If he scans Psyche, that means that you can still find a way to push it onto me and off of your scumbuddy.

[kondi2424]

If a scan between vijay and Psyche doesn't make a difference to you guys, then scanning Psyche shouldn't be a problem.

Chrimi will probably die tonight, BK.

[Om of the Nom]

Really, the scum can just kill who we end up choosing to investigate and we would end up wasting an investigation.

I say Gunny picks whoever he wants to pick.

[BK201]

Kondi it makes a difference because of you. That's the irony.

[kondi2424]

Tell you what. If Psyche comes up inno, I'll allow vijay to be lynched. Deal?

[Psyche]

Scanning me would leave me uncertain. I suppose I shouldn't be so selfish as to prefer my own certainty over that of the town.

I also feel like all my public relations work should pay off, like scanning me

should

seem like a redundant waste. /grumble

But seriously. Shotgun needs a scum result for this to be final. Chrimi

could

be gambitting. I know that I'm town, so it's obvious why I'd prefer a Vijay or Chrimi scan. Chrimi's claim seems more legit than Vijay's.

[Chrimi]

So:

drmyshotgun, please, for the love of god, scan vijay <3

Kondi, you do have a point there though. If I die tonight, then it's easy to know which is scum.

Kondi, if a scan between vijay and psyche doesn't matter to us, and if I die tonight, why does it matter to you....? Oh WAIT. I won't die tonight because YOU'RE THE SCUM. You'll keep me alive so you can push the scumminess off of Vijay onto me.

Yep, Vijay+Kondi scumteam.

Om, are you serious? When they flip we know their role, and it wouldn't be a waste. If he investigates vijay, and he gets killed, and he's the FH, then we know it's Psyche.

Kondi, no.

drmyshotgun, once again, scan vijay. If he SOMEHOW ends up town, lynch Psyche.
I don't expect him to show up town, though.

[BK201]

You can't be sure Chrimi will die tonight. Scum could easily leave him alive so he looks scummy, and they could take the coin toss on our cop.