NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Junpei]

1) Your vote is bad because you had been on the fence about me/seacore previously.

2) Isn't not being aggressive clearly means that post is aggresive-ish and the rest is passive. Are you sure you're awake?

As for your explanation, it seems like you looked at it and rewrote it a few times. Please confirm if this is true for me.

pedit: An explanation?

[Kublai Khan]

Unvote
Vote: Seacore

Re-thinking it. There's no reason for Seacore to jump into the game and vote Junpei before really reading the game. And only voting him because he's the counter-wagon at that.

I mean, I could understand if Seacore was a PR, but he claimed VT. So why would he vote someone who he doesn't have a scum-read on and might possibly have a more useful pro-town role (Junpei didn't claim VT until later).

[redFF]

Gogo lynch seacore.

[Psyche]

Unvote
Vote: Seacore

Re-thinking it. There's no reason for Seacore to jump into the game and vote Junpei before really reading the game. And only voting him because he's the counter-wagon at that.

I mean, I could understand if Seacore was a PR, but he claimed VT. So why would he vote someone who he doesn't have a scum-read on and might possibly have a more useful pro-town role (Junpei didn't claim VT until later).

I don't think seacore thinks along those lines. :/

[Maxous]

PEDIT: And 3rd wagon contender number 1 steps up to the plate.

I assume this is about shotgun..why do you think he is scum?

[StrangerCoug]

1) Your vote is bad because you had been on the fence about me/seacore previously.

True, but keep in mind that I was still

LESS

inclined to vote you than Pine. You killed my town read on you by acting surprised about Seacore's vote on you when you were the only contender than him. It is worsened by you taking advantage of my refusal to vote Seacore because he was catching up and offering to replace out so I would vote him. It wasn't going to work before you pulled that stunt, and it isn't going to work now.

2) Isn't not being aggressive clearly means that post is aggresive-ish and the rest is passive. Are you sure you're awake?

The way the post was worded was confusing. I was trying to put two and two together.

As for your explanation, it seems like you looked at it and rewrote it a few times. Please confirm if this is true for me.

I rewrote sections of it before posting, yes. Why is that scummy?

[Seacore]

Kublai is better than this, surely...

I was the lead wagon when I replaced in. Junpei was a few votes behind me, so at almost no danger of a quick lynch. Voting for him was a reasonable thing to do no matter what my alignment.
There was plenty of time for Junpei to claim. After Junpei claimed there was plenty of time for me and/or others to jump off the wagon. This is just stupid questioning.

My comment of shotty being the next wagon was because i misunderstood his "no lynch?" comment. I thought he was pushing for a no lynch, rather than asking if there had been a lynch toDay or not. I take back my comment now that i understand him better.

[Junpei]

I rewrote sections of it before posting, yes. Why is that scummy?

I didn't say it was scummy, did I?

Your quick switch onto me on one small detail is bad no matter what you have said. By the way I was concerned about Seacores' SECOND content post (third overall) being the vote. I was expecting him fully to vote me, but I would have thought he'd do it immediately. The hesitation is odd.

[Seacore]

Junpei. RL Context. I was lying it bed, holding a baby in one hand, playing on my tablet. Part of me was just too lazy to play with bold code, the other half was willing to be patient and wait til i'd done some reading.

then after a few more minutes of reading, and double checking where pine's vote had been, i thought, screw it, and voted.

[drmyshotgun]

With so many people in one game, I

do

believe Junpei's VT babble after KK's "hammer".
Seacore's the lynch.

[Seacore]

That's dumb Shotty.

I completely believe that Junpei thought the hammer was real.

But town Junpei and scum Junpei would both have reacted the exact same way in twilight. Only idiot scum claim scum after a hammer, as it allows town to discuss relationships before nightfall.

[drmyshotgun]

Oooh, so Scums make laughing stock out of themselves after they get hammered and when the Night falls?

[Kublai Khan]

Voting for him was a reasonable thing to do no matter what my alignment.

I can't see that. Why would it be important to increase the number of votes on Junpei when you are a VT and you have no idea if the case on Junpei has any merit or what his claimed role is?

Also, use the nickname of "shotty" for drmyshottynizsik and "gunny" for drmyshotgun. Saves on headaches.

[drmyshotgun]

^Indeed.

[Seacore]

Ah, I totally had no idea they were different people.
And now i see the sig.

KK, there are very few days left. of course i would want the counterwagon to be as competitive with my own as possible. You're saying that when you're replacing into a suspected VT slot you just roll over and die?

[Junpei]

Ah, I totally had no idea they were different people.

So you pretty much haven't done any reading whatsoever have you. Also no where did Kublai Kahn say for you to "roll over and die".

[Seacore]

His comment that i should value the life of my VT self as less important than an unclaimed, unconfirmed you suggests that I shouldn't be fighting for my survival.

No, I haven't done any reading yet past my replace in and an ISO on Pine.

[scooby]

CONFIRM VOTE SEACORE

[drmyshotgun]

Is that all you can say, after, oh, 6 full days of lurking?

[Benmage]

Seacores town.

Why would scum admit to voting the alternate lead wagon?

Seems like he'd make up some reason if he was scum.

I'm not voting her. (althoughifshedoesgetylynchedshe'llhavemoretimetoworkonADWD )

[Junpei]

Seems like he'd make up some reason if he was scum.

That would take a lot more effort and reading which Seacore clearly has no time for.

[Psyche]

Seacores town.

Why would scum admit to voting the alternate lead wagon?

Seems like he'd make up some reason if he was scum.

Meh.

[Kublai Khan]

KK, there are very few days left. of course i would want the counterwagon to be as competitive with my own as possible. You're saying that when you're replacing into a suspected VT slot you just roll over and die?

No, when you replace into a suspected VT slot, you power-read as much as possible. Whatever you don't finish reading you ask questions on. Then you vote your gut and/or your conscience. Failing that, sheep whoever you have the strongest town-read on.

Voting the competing wagon for no reason other than to save your own ass and not giving a shit about who is forced to claim or gets lynched as long as your vanilla self stays alive and claiming to not have read anything of note is self-preservationist as fuck (and therefore scummy).

I think Seacore fucked up. I think Seacore is scum.

[Psyche]

KK, there are very few days left. of course i would want the counterwagon to be as competitive with my own as possible. You're saying that when you're replacing into a suspected VT slot you just roll over and die?

No, when you replace into a suspected VT slot, you power-read as much as possible. Whatever you don't finish reading you ask questions on. Then you vote your gut and/or your conscience. Failing that, sheep whoever you have the strongest town-read on.

Voting the competing wagon for no reason other than to save your own ass and not giving a shit about who is forced to claim or gets lynched as long as your vanilla self stays alive and claiming to not have read anything of note is self-preservationist as fuck (and therefore scummy).

I think Seacore fucked up. I think Seacore is scum.

This is a mehful attack.

[StrangerCoug]

I rewrote sections of it before posting, yes. Why is that scummy?

I didn't say it was scummy, did I?

Then why did you bring it up?

CONFIRM VOTE SEACORE

Could you be any more useless? I really don't see your face all that often.

Kublai Khan's last post stands out to me, but that requires me to take a closer look at Seacore before I pass judgment on it.