Experimental Role Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[MagnaofIllusion]

So thoughts on generic things so far –

Vi flipping a highly modified Serial Killer is meaningful. We started with 23 players in the game. A total scum distribution would be 7 / 8 worst-case. That means we are looking at 6 / 7 other non-Town roles worst-case. If we are in multi-scum (which the Aegis flip hints at but isn’t absolute) then each team is not very large.

What does this mean? Very likely bussing isn’t happening early. Scum have to worry about cross-kills and very limited numbers. No need to weaken your already precarious position with bussing.

I eagerly await Tierce’s content today given her stances yesterday.

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This post isn't relevant apparently?

And I've already said real-life circumstances are hindering my ability to participate fully at the moment.

So go fuck yourself.

The first post is indeed some content which has been rendered out-dated by 4 flips. And your posts today have been filled with fluff.

If you don’t have significant time to post content right now that’s fine. But don’t toss out fluff like Post 859 and expect me to think you are too busy for content.

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The voices were not angry about the lynch you clod.

Fantastic. The voices can maybe then explain WTF you are ranting about someone killing VT Peregrine. That’s a clear mystery to me.

This guy is prolly scum btw

Well given he replaced Pine who was one of the only ‘scum’ reads of dead scum Fakegod I’m not really interested in hanging him now.

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It was L-3 with 14 hours to go, and FG had 9 votes and Tierce 8 votes. A great time to make a statement. But instead you waited until Parama voted FG, and then the claim, and then a MOI vote switch from Tierce to FG stating he did not believe the claim. At this point, a vote was useless, you could have just let it go to the deadline instead of throwing your lame attempt of a bus out there.

1. Do you believe this is multi-scum? Yes or no please.
2. Your logic here is bad. Scum FakeGod claimed an investigation role. Castigating him for hammering scum is quite terrible. Pidgey is unlikely his partner since Tierce claiming VT means that the deadline rush would strongly favor Tierce (unknown alignment) getting the rope over now confirmed scum FakeGod.

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Vote: Parama

Until he comes back and tells us what he's been gathering.

So let me understand you here … Parama late made a vote that help make FakeGod-scum the lynch of the day. You are voting the replaced out slot simply for policy reasons?

[chesskid3]

One of the only "scum" reads of a guy who wasn't exactly pushing that wagon.


You see what's so scummy about the post or not

[chesskid3]

Suppose you were a voice
that could tell a killing role who they should kill
Seems like a pretty handy way to determine the alignment of said voice, dontcha think?

[chesskid3]

Shrug. I'm the voice in some idiot's head.

Said idiot doesn't listen to the voices in his head.

They don't like this one bit. The voices in your head can hurt you, you know.

Cooperate next time, or I'm killing both of us. You know who you are.

[havingfitz]

@chesskid....do you know whose head you were in? I assume not.
Do you know if your suggestion was accurate? I assume not.
Do you know if you're the only voice in the "idiots'" head? And if there are more voices than yours...how would the idiot know all the voices are sane?

[chesskid3]

I don't know whose head I' in.
I do know my suggestion was received and ignored.
And I do know I can drive him mad, killing us both (so that's a pretty clear indicator that there's 1 voice per head).

So I would appreciate a fuckign claim and an explanation, or maybe I might just fucking kill us tonight.
It's a fucking role DESIGNED TO FUCKING INVESTIGATE PEOPLE. my target flips scum, hey i'm fucking town. etc etc etc. Why anyone with a brain would ignore the voice in their head
is fucking beyond me.

[havingfitz]

Do you know if your target recommendation was targetting scum? I assume not.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I don't know whose head I' in.
I do know my suggestion was received and ignored.
And I do know I can drive him mad, killing us both (so that's a pretty clear indicator that there's 1 voice per head).

So you think said role is a 3rd Party killing role? In addition to Vi flipping effectively a Modified Serial Killer?

Because the other option is it is a scum member and unless said member is REQUIRED to make the kill for his team (and subject to all sorts of danger there) then suiciding them because you are pissed said person ignored your input is pretty petty and stupid FMPOV.

[chesskid3]

Do you know if your target recommendation was targetting scum? I assume not.

vote IaI and lets find out

[chesskid3]

I don't know whose head I' in.
I do know my suggestion was received and ignored.
And I do know I can drive him mad, killing us both (so that's a pretty clear indicator that there's 1 voice per head).

So you think said role is a 3rd Party killing role? In addition to Vi flipping effectively a Modified Serial Killer?

Because the other option is it is a scum member and unless said member is REQUIRED to make the kill for his team (and subject to all sorts of danger there) then suiciding them because you are pissed said person ignored your input is pretty petty and stupid FMPOV.

i'm not above stupid and petty

and idiotic killing roles of any alignment are terrible for towns.

[Majiffy]

Prod dodge. Will have my replace in post in 12 hours at worst. Any questions will be answered then. Side note, I looked at the OP. what does aegis mean? It isn't the role because he's a tracker, so is he like scum or 3rd party? Because I can't think of a reason for a 3rd party tracker.

3rd party. And it really doesn't matter if you can't think of a reason for it, the flip is pretty blatantly there. Also check the name of the thread again and stop overthinking obvious things.

If you don’t have significant time to post content right now that’s fine. But don’t toss out fluff like Post 859 and expect me to think you are too busy for content.

Fluff? You're barking up a fucking tree. God forbid I try to keep discussion meaningful, eh?

Well given he replaced Pine who was one of the only ‘scum’ reads of dead scum Fakegod I’m not really interested in hanging him now.

Scum can't have legitimate scum reads in a multi-scum game? Fucktard.

Cooperate next time, or I'm killing both of us. You know who you are.

Do you think you die if you kill the person who's head you're in?

And I do know I can drive him mad, killing us both (so that's a pretty clear indicator that there's 1 voice per head).

Asked and answered. Weird.

[havingfitz]

Are there things you can say to the head that you can't share in the game thread?

If you aren't sure of your target's alignment there is no reason for the head to listen to you...other than threat of death. The head could be scum unwilling to shoot a scumbuddy.

I'm not sure IAI did anything substantial enough on D1 to make a town aligned head avoid shooting him under fear of death. ????

Oh. And VOTE: Tierce

[chesskid3]

IaI? 22 posts with nothing decent in any of them?

Get your head out of your ass with that Tierce vote and vote IaI.
And no, I can't talk to him other than give him a name to kill. And he can't talk to me period. Why's the psychiatrist have to be dedz.

But seriously that's even MORE of a reason for an IaI lynch today

[Majiffy]

Can you tell me some more about what you know about your role, Chess?

[chesskid3]

Why should I? Seems I covered the basics pretty well

[havingfitz]

While I decide what to make of your rantings there is no reason for me to not start off today where yesterday left off.

[chesskid3]

keep voting that scum counterwagon.

[havingfitz]

Uh...where was your vote at the end of D1? (Hint-Tierce). Have you changed your mind on her?

[chesskid3]

Unlike you, I can read flips.

[havingfitz]

I didn't see Tierce's flip and I don't see the four flips that are out there clearing her.

[chesskid3]

I think I'm going to give my illustrious friend one more chance tonight, and you're looking like a fairly good target.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Scum can't have legitimate scum reads in a multi-scum game? Fucktard.

You really didn’t learn about not being an ass from Divided Germany Mafia did you?

But on topic – it’s lovely that you use a point I never here. That’s called strawmanning.

1. We aren’t assured 100% this is multi-scum especially with Chesskid’s claimed line to a player with a kill who doesn’t make much sense as scum. Three kills from Aegis Mafia - Fire SK Vi - (INSERT DEDICATED KILLING ROLE) makes reasonable sense in single-scum. So why should I jump to attack Pine again?
2. Say were aren’t mutli-scum. Who makes sense as scum then?

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IaI? 22 posts with nothing decent in any of them?

Get your head out of your ass with that Tierce vote and vote IaI.
And no, I can't talk to him other than give him a name to kill. And he can't talk to me period. Why's the psychiatrist have to be dedz.

But seriously that's even MORE of a reason for an IaI lynch today

Again – why is someone we have no idea of their identity’s refusal to listen to you a motivating factor that indicates we should be listening to your reads as gospel?

[Amrun]

Out of purely wagon analizis, I know suspect Amrun. As for IaI and havingfits, this just adds more to my problems I already had about them before. For now, i'll

Explain this.

Again this makes no sense. Tierce came stroming into the thread saying “FakeGod is Town it makes no sense for him to be wagoned” and trying to divert to a number of other people. When said play back-fired and she suddenly became the FG counterwagon she couldn’t exactly say “Hmmm nevermind let’s lynch FakeGod” and not expect for people to view it as anything other than a “save my ass” bus.

That's a fair interpretation that I left open - and I did forget to account for multiscum, anti-bussing, etc. I still don't think it would have been very hard for her to find her way to his wagon, knowing he would flip scum, but I still think she's scum.

Vote fakegod all day, when another wagon looks feasible jumps to the other wagon, and pushes it THROUGH A SCUM FLIP.

How on earth do you think that is a scumtell? lol Especially with fucking plurality lynch?

Because of 2 things which were already said.
I wanted him to claim
I was still thinking on who to vote

Your case sucks beyond trash. Just go and cry in the corner because i hammered your probable partner.

No, the case is quite good, actually. If I had two votes, my second would be on you.

[pidgey]

Amrun- i already explained it. I think that some of the mafia might has been bussing fakegod but when a viable counterwagon formed in tierce, they changed their vote.

Learn to read.

Frankly i dont care if you want to vote me, in fact it would just make you look even scummier in my eyes. Its funny because IaI said his case on 838 and you COULD have commented ANYTHING or at least say you have some form of read on me in your post at 845???

Oh but then i say im suspicious of you in 848. And NOW you have something to comment about the IaI case? Lol.

[Majiffy]

You really didn’t learn about not being an ass from Divided Germany Mafia did you?

But on topic – it’s lovely that you use a point I never here. That’s called strawmanning.

I'm an asshole. I'm not going to change my personality for a bunch of pissants,

especially

when I was right to begin with in that game.

Well

given he

replaced Pine who

was one of the only ‘scum’ reads of dead scum Fakegod I’m not really interested

in hanging him now.

Read the bolded. Then read what I said. I didn't strawman anything. It can be pretty obviously inferred by what you said here that because the scumread was held by a scum in a multi-scum game, the read isn't important whatsoever to you. It shouldn't matter who the mouth is that's saying it, but what is actually being said.

1. We aren’t assured 100% this is multi-scum

I don't know about you, but my PM said town, not Aegis, and not scum. So that means we're looking at 3 factions already. How much more obvious do you need it?

2. Say were aren’t mutli-scum. Who makes sense as scum then?

Non-town aligned roles. Derp.

Why should I? Seems I covered the basics pretty well

Because I'm not entirely convinced your claim is real. I want more information. Why are you so against it? You've already claimed, you could at least explain it fully.