TM2012 - Closed Normal(Over!)

[Glork]

I'd be up for lynching CoolDog.

[Slaxx]

Sorry guys, busy week getting all the loose ends tied up in the new place. Its amazing and expensive finding all the little things I'm still missing around the house, like nice booze glasses to woo the ladies, because I am a man of class

I'll talk with Reg tomorrow (I was signed into msn today occasionally but didnt catch him and I much prefer that to QTs) but I don't think many of his reads changed. He posted in the QT his UN town read is weaker because it felt like he is coasting.

Regarding the Grey-Glork argument: You both think I'm town, I think you're both town, so just shut up. It was painful reading all that, and I didn't even realize why until my third time having to actually focus and read through. Then it hit me: pretty much all my town reads (minus haylen and captain) are pretty much the only ones posting. I'm guilty of this too as of the last couple days. Itd be great to get more from Cooldog and MoS. Porochaz's last post was shit and I'm gonna talk to Reg about him more tomorrow. Right now I have a gun named Lurker Hunter and its trigger makes my finger itch. Also, Haylen has been playing plenty defensively as of late and that isn't lost on me (Grey, I see you panties bunching up), but I want reads on some other players first.

This post was mostly a whole lot of nothing, I'll have actual developed reads tomorrow when I hopefully contact Reg again. If I don't get in touch with him by midday tomorrow I'll suck it up and communicate via quicktopic I guess.

[Captain Murasa]

Yeah, the continued interactions between Glork and Grey solidify my town reads on both of them.

DeltaWave continues his delicious misrep. I have pointed to much more than just gut and speculation, he just omitted it to make me look worse.

[hasdgfas]

DeltaWave(4): Glork, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, Mastermind of Sin
Haylen(3): iamausername, GreyICE, PeregrineV
Glork(3): Haylen, UberNinja, DeltaWave
Uberninja(1): CooLDoG

Not Voting: Slaxx, Porochaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is May 21.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Yea it's unfortunate that GreyICE is not actually scum in this game.

GreyICE - idiot town
Glork - probs town
Uberninja - idiot ???
JasonT1981 - probs town (via Glork's case which I agree with)
iamausername - ???
Slaxx - ???
Haylen - *sigh*
CooLDoG - leaning town
Captain Murasa - ???
DeltaWave - idiot or scum
Porochaz - neutral
PeregrineV - ???

In other news, my team says

that Murasa is pretending to take part in the Glork vs Delta fight without actually saying anything on consequence. They also say WHAT THE FUCK @ UberNinja

(see: above list, I agree).

Additionally, GreyICE's 651 is pretty fucking retarded, but they agree with my town read on him. Finally, my team wants to know where the fuck is everyone besides DeltaWave, Glork, GreyICE, Murasa, and myself?

Obviously some of them are posting to a slight degree, but I'll have to ask for clarification on that and get back to you with specifics on what that meant.

Paraphrased/collated contributions from my team are in

green

.

That said, if I take a leap of faith that the idiots are actually idiots and not scum, we're looking for (probably) 3 scum in iamausername, Slaxx, Captain Murasa, and PeregrineV. It's not a perfect list, but I like my PoE chances to get something started.

Unvote, Vote: Captain Murasa

Gonna go with my team's suspicion on this one for now.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Oh, Haylen and Porochaz can probably be on that list as well, but with a bit of a gap.

[Captain Murasa]

I'm not trying to be a huge part of the Glork vs Delta fight. I'm just arguing with Delta and yelling at people for wagoning obvtown Glork. I'm not a part of their fight together.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Quickly skimmed Murasa's posts and I think I agree with my team. Kind of sliding along behind Glork's wake while trying to act like she's NOT is really what caught my eye (as opposed to someone like myself, who openly admitted to sheeping Glork). Also the whole "being super sure of Haylen-town to the point of getting really frustrated and promising an 'I told you so' if we do lynch her" bit is a general scumslip I've seen from time to time when mafia white-knight a bit too much.

[Captain Murasa]

I'm not sheeping Glork (or not intending to). Also I don't get how you guys can't see how obvtown Haylen is. She is really so fucking town that I will bet my left nut on it (yay kuribo reference :3).

[Mastermind of Sin]

That's a pretty empty gesture for a female. =P

[Captain Murasa]

I am a guy, my gender on this account is female to suit the character it's based off of.

[iamausername]

JasonT1981 - probs town (via Glork's case which I agree with)

Unvote, Vote: Captain Murasa

Gonna go with my team's suspicion on this one for now.

Wasn't Glork's reason for clearing jason pretty much the same reason as this:

Rhinox has pointed out that the sequence from 299 to 306, where Captain Murasa spends two hours looking through Glork's past games and reaches this conclusion:

Anyway, about people saying Glork isn't playing to his town meta. I kinda half-agree. He isn't exactly playing to his town meta, but I don't see him playing to his scum meta either. I think he's playing more to his town meta than scum though.

makes Murasa probable town. I'm inclined to agree.

?

Also, why is Prozac 'neutral' and not '???' like the rest of us? Is there a difference?

[CooLDoG]

Going to start catching up now.

[CooLDoG]

My team wants me back on Haylen.

HOWEVER
MoI thinks you're scum, Glork.
So does LLD

You're not really winning any fans in our QT.

*sigh*

Vote: Haylen

Don't let Glork survive til endgame, folks.

Why do you feel the need to bow to every demand of your team?

DO YOU EVEN READ THE WORDS THAT I TYPE?

YOU CAN'T THINK IT'S BULLSHIT THAT MY TEAM THINKS YOU'RE SCUM BECAUSE HALF OF MY TEAM ISN'T CALLING YOU SCUM.

I read this, and other glork posts, as frustrated town. I don't think scum could fake the type of reactions that glork has shown.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4033662

Pere seems rather scummy now that I look at it. He seems disassociated from the game. He doesn't seem to have any scum reads either. He simply doesn't read as town to me.

My opinions:

TOWN

GreyICE
Uberninja
Porochaz
PeregrineV
Slaxx
iamausername
Jason
Cooldog
Captain Murasa
Glork
Haylen

SCUM

Not totally set on the middle bunch but I'd vote for anyone in the bottom 4.

You haven't given a single reason fro any of your reads and you haven't scum hunted all day long. Explain why you don't want to actively hunt for scum.

Also, LoL @ not even being on Delta's list in #421. xD

In all my copy-pasting within the list, I must have missed you. I'll slip you into the next version.

This is just horrible. Didn't even repost the list, or tell where he is on the list.

unvote, vote: deltawave

Keep floundering Glork

You're cute when you try to talk smack. You single?

Looks like someone is getting nervous. I think you know on some level that your reason for voting for me is razor thin so now you're trying to point the finger away from yourself as best you can.

... I don't see what you are trying to say here.

When I was making that list, I changed the order repeatedly by copy/pasting names. There's a big block of people in the middle that I'm not sure about. This is a pretty trivial thing and the focus on this, plus this ridiculous "voting block" plan solidifies my read on Glork. I've never liked the idea of voting blocks, especially on D1.

Just stop

Slaxx is town for this post.'

I'm interested in hearing why I'm a suspect of DW even though he hasn't mentioned me at all beforehand.

The thing is that DW will never really give out the reasons for his reads. That's partly because he doesn't really have any. All of his reads are, apparently, based off of gut and gut alone.

I'm interested in hearing why I'm a suspect of DW even though he hasn't mentioned me at all beforehand.

This should be obvious. Your adamant defense of Haylen has awarded you many scumpoints

Why is defending someone that you think is town scummy? Why does she gain scum points for it?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4035732

You know. Delta is just digging a ditch to die in here. I don't get his argument, "ohh here are some posts that I made, which are mostly fluff, and by the way you are scum fro agreeing with someone else." Don't get it. Lynch away!

You lost me right there delta. You don't have solid reasons. At all.

More later. Probably;y this afternoon, in fact. Sorry if I couldn't be that active over the weekend. Things got busy.

[DeltaWave]

You haven't given a single reason fro any of your reads and you haven't scum hunted all day long. Explain why you don't want to actively hunt for scum.

The thing is that DW will never really give out the reasons for his reads. That's partly because he doesn't really have any. All of his reads are, apparently, based off of gut and gut alone.

Yeah right. I gave reasons (and links to the posts that made me suspicious) in 456. Outright lying has to be the shittiest way to hop on my wagon.

Holy shit you are scum CD

[DeltaWave]

What makes this even funnier is that you reference 459, but you still say I haven't given a "single reason" for suspecting anybody. haha oh wow

[GreyICE]

Oh look, MoS is posting. I wonder what it says?

Spoiler:

Oh yeah, pretty much the same as every other post he makes.

I see he's nicely put most of the town as null except for the people who aren't possible to mislynch, and he's carefully made sure that he has an explanation for Delta flipping town.

By the way, scumdog is jumping on the wagon.

Can you smell a town flip? 'cause I can.

[Om of the Nom]

I'm interested in hearing why I'm a suspect of DW even though he hasn't mentioned me at all beforehand.

The thing is that DW will never really give out the reasons for his reads. That's partly because he doesn't really have any. All of his reads are, apparently, based off of gut and gut alone.

Lol chainsaw.

[Captain Murasa]

I'm interested in hearing why I'm a suspect of DW even though he hasn't mentioned me at all beforehand.

The thing is that DW will never really give out the reasons for his reads. That's partly because he doesn't really have any. All of his reads are, apparently, based off of gut and gut alone.

Lol chainsaw.

Because I can totally post with the right account :V

[GreyICE]

Sorry guys, busy week getting all the loose ends tied up in the new place. Its amazing and expensive finding all the little things I'm still missing around the house, like nice booze glasses to woo the ladies, because I am a man of class

I'll talk with Reg tomorrow (I was signed into msn today occasionally but didnt catch him and I much prefer that to QTs) but I don't think many of his reads changed. He posted in the QT his UN town read is weaker because it felt like he is coasting.

Regarding the Grey-Glork argument: You both think I'm town, I think you're both town, so just shut up. It was painful reading all that, and I didn't even realize why until my third time having to actually focus and read through. Then it hit me: pretty much all my town reads (minus haylen and captain) are pretty much the only ones posting. I'm guilty of this too as of the last couple days. Itd be great to get more from Cooldog and MoS. Porochaz's last post was shit and I'm gonna talk to Reg about him more tomorrow. Right now I have a gun named Lurker Hunter and its trigger makes my finger itch. Also, Haylen has been playing plenty defensively as of late and that isn't lost on me (Grey, I see you panties bunching up), but I want reads on some other players first.

This post was mostly a whole lot of nothing, I'll have actual developed reads tomorrow when I hopefully contact Reg again. If I don't get in touch with him by midday tomorrow I'll suck it up and communicate via quicktopic I guess.

Now Slaxx, here are the reads that matter, in not so many words.

Haylen is scum
CooLDoG is scum.

What else matters? Remeber Ion67 and Pine? What do you think happens if we terminate two scumbags in two days? Not real good on scum victory, yes? And that's assuming CooLDoG doesn't wake up dead from lead poisoning.

Haylen has to die today, Slaxx. Otherwise she's just going to kill us off, one by one. And whose going to lynch her then? Om of the Nom will just assume we're dying for unrelated reasons, Jason might change his reads, but I doubt it. So who are we left with after that? Porochaz? Mastermind of Sin? One of the two is scum here, unless, well, you don't want to discuss that. So we won't.

We don't get her today, we're not getting her period. CooLDoG? He's fine with dying today, he always has that sacrificial 'I'll help people out' streak that means that he'll get bussed and like it.

[Captain Murasa]

Om of the Nom will just assume we're dying for unrelated reasons.

Sadly, that will probably end up coming true.

[UberNinja]

This Glork/Delta slapfight that's taken up most of the last five pages is hella frustrating, because I think there's a strong likelihood that both are town.

EYES ON THE PRIZE, PEOPLE.

Anyway, it's time for Haylen termination.

It was time for Haylen termination about fifteen goddamn pages ago.

Here's a reminder for everyone:

Post 118: Haylen tells GreyICE that he (and his team) cannot read her, votes GreyICE.
Post 143: Haylen explicitly states that GreyICE is "the scummiest person to [her] right now."
Post 156: Commence backpedalling. Haylen moves her vote off of GreyICE, says that he is "bad bad town".
Post 251: Haylen claims that this whole time, when she was voting GreyICE and calling him "the scummiest person", she was "trying to convince everyone he was talking bullcrap and thus is town".
Post 496: When I question her about this blatant lie, she ignores the questions, and continues to insist that there is no case on her. When I draw attention to the questions she is ignoring, she claims that she "didn't notice" them, then

goes right on ignoring them

.

Beneath the following spoiler tags is a list of everything Haylen has said about who is scum in this game.

Spoiler: Guess what they have in common!

You're exaggerating here and you were exaggerating when you said nobody could find more than 2 of my normal games which is quite interesting when 6 of them are listed on my wiki.

Vote GreyICE

Glork's voting me when he said my defence isn't scummy. Voting patterns inconsistent with opinions -> noted.

Murasa, why is Uber town? My read on him is currently leaning scum.

Not this early in the game, I'm not. It's 6 pages in and I'm not 100% sure you[GreyICE]'re scum, you're just the scummiest person to me right now.

I'm voting you for you're scummy behaviour since the beginning of the day.

By the way, if I get lynched today, there's at least 2 scum on my wagon.

So that's L-1.

Parama wants me to tell you you're scum, Slaxx.

CLEAR YOUR FUCKING BRAINS AND GET ON A REAL WAGON.

Unvote
Vote Uberninja

Whoever still thinks Haylen might be town hasn't read GreyICE's posts.

Whoever still thinks Uber might be town hasn't read Uberninja's posts.

My team thinks you[Glork]'re scum.

Didn't notice iams questions, perhaps that should have crossed his mind. Also, semantics arguments are so fail. I don't think you're town.

Dislike delta purely for the murasa is buddying me therefore i have to be scum which will never ever make sense.

Did you get it? No? OK, I'll tell you: the list of players that Haylen has ever called scum corresponds

exactly

with the list of players who have voted Haylen.

Scumhunting!

You are right. This Glork/Delta slap-fight is nothing more than a fucking distraction.

Unvote; Vote: Haylen

[Haylen]

By the way, it's stupid that people seem to be calling Cooldog scum and not voting him, Quil think's he's scum.

[Captain Murasa]

I have better things to do with my vote than vote CooLDoG.

[UberNinja]

By the way, it's stupid that people seem to be calling Cooldog scum and not voting him, Quil think's he's scum.

People on my team think he's scum too, but I personally would rather lynch you.

So that's exactly what I'm doing.