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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 3:00 pm

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Porochaz wrote:I read the whole game again today and your iso three times I think. Once around page 15, once near the end and once when I was writing the final post to see if I had missed some original opinion. Fact is, regardless of what you might say, you have done almost nothing to convince me you have an original thought about this game and you have been piggy backing on the people with the loudest voices to look like you are doing something and to seem like a generally amicable person.

It's part of an active attempt to change my play style because if you want to look at my meta, I have been mislynched on Day 1 three times (extremely recently) because I rock the boat too much.

So far it's going to plan.
- People are reading me as town for the right reasons.
- I feel as if I am contributing to the flow of the game.
- The people I want lynched are being wagoned.

I don't see much incentive to change the way I'm playing, and you shaking a stick at me isn't making me feel guilty for playing in a way that feels good to me. I enjoy playing mafia more when I'm not at other people's throats and others aren't at my throat.

If you want, you can lynch me for being "obstinate" and for not catering to your whims, but you can also read my past games (some of them still ongoing) to see how that worked out for everyone else who thought that was a good idea.

Check my wiki, specifically the games that say "Mislynched on Day 1".
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 6:55 pm

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Posting for the sake of posting. Nothing anyone has said lately has changed my mind about my reads.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 7:09 pm

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UberNinja wrote:
Porochaz wrote:I read the whole game again today and your iso three times I think. Once around page 15, once near the end and once when I was writing the final post to see if I had missed some original opinion. Fact is, regardless of what you might say, you have done almost nothing to convince me you have an original thought about this game and you have been piggy backing on the people with the loudest voices to look like you are doing something and to seem like a generally amicable person.

It's part of an active attempt to change my play style because if you want to look at my meta, I have been mislynched on Day 1 three times (extremely recently) because I rock the boat too much.

So far it's going to plan.
- People are reading me as town for the right reasons.
- I feel as if I am contributing to the flow of the game.
- The people I want lynched are being wagoned.

I don't see much incentive to change the way I'm playing, and you shaking a stick at me isn't making me feel guilty for playing in a way that feels good to me. I enjoy playing mafia more when I'm not at other people's throats and others aren't at my throat.

If you want, you can lynch me for being "obstinate" and for not catering to your whims, but you can also read my past games (some of them still ongoing) to see how that worked out for everyone else who thought that was a good idea.

Check my wiki, specifically the games that say "Mislynched on Day 1".


Really? People are lynching you for "rocking the boat"? Links?

Because all I see you doing currently is buddying up to Delta and Grey, not having an original thought of your own and just generally coasting through and active lurking. Mafia is a game about being at others throats... so Im not sure where you get it from.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 8:03 pm

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Porochaz wrote:
UberNinja wrote:
Porochaz wrote:I read the whole game again today and your iso three times I think. Once around page 15, once near the end and once when I was writing the final post to see if I had missed some original opinion. Fact is, regardless of what you might say, you have done almost nothing to convince me you have an original thought about this game and you have been piggy backing on the people with the loudest voices to look like you are doing something and to seem like a generally amicable person.

It's part of an active attempt to change my play style because if you want to look at my meta, I have been mislynched on Day 1 three times (extremely recently) because I rock the boat too much.

So far it's going to plan.
- People are reading me as town for the right reasons.
- I feel as if I am contributing to the flow of the game.
- The people I want lynched are being wagoned.

I don't see much incentive to change the way I'm playing, and you shaking a stick at me isn't making me feel guilty for playing in a way that feels good to me. I enjoy playing mafia more when I'm not at other people's throats and others aren't at my throat.

If you want, you can lynch me for being "obstinate" and for not catering to your whims, but you can also read my past games (some of them still ongoing) to see how that worked out for everyone else who thought that was a good idea.

Check my wiki, specifically the games that say "Mislynched on Day 1".

Really? People are lynching you for "rocking the boat"? Links?

Wow, really? It's literally THE LINE ABOVE.

UberNinja wrote:Check my wiki, specifically the games that say "Mislynched on Day 1".
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 8:06 pm

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If you got lynched for rocking the boat then it's the town's fault, not yours.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 8:15 pm

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CooLDoG is probably town. I'm content to leave my vote on Murasa for now and trust my team's instincts since I'm officially V/LA now.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2012 8:20 pm

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Captain Murasa wrote:If you got lynched for rocking the boat then it's the town's fault, not yours.

That's what I keep telling myself, but then, it's not much fun to be lynched Day 1 repeatedly, now is it?

So I'm trying to do better.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 1:28 am

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UberNinja wrote:So CoolDog, lemme ask you this:
Do you think Haylen is scum with Capt Murasa, OR do you think I am scum with DeltaWave?

Because those are both agendas you tried to push within your last megapost.

I think haylen is town. I think I said one of her posts was stupid and could come from scum (the I'm not going to post post). I have a null read on muirsa. I literally can't read her.
I think delta and you are scum
. Simple as that.

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Do you have an adequate understanding of the English language? This is a serious question because in 482, Murasa said I was parroting arguments. So I responded in 448 with a rebuttal to that. And your assessment is, "who the fuck cares if your reads are original"?

YEah, other than the fact that you talked about your reads being original in more than one post and you made a big stink about it in almost every one of your posts with glork. :roll: Keep digging the hole. I want you lynched.
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One he is trying to dismiss a factual error in his posts. Two, abrasiveness is not filler. I don't see how you can misconstrue a definition that far.


LOL, how do you know what his motivations are?

How does this deal with you telling a flat out lie and you pulling a definition of a word right out of your ass to make your case sound better?

OMGUS TO DA MAX. No really, if your reads are so strong on haylen and nothing much really changed between you and glork over the three pages I just read (about 20 to 24) then why not keep it on haylen? And why wait so long to switch to glork. You had many more legitamite oppertunities to switch your vote, but you waited for
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reason.


I explained why I was switching to Glork. I found an inconsistency in his logic and, when I pressed him on it, he refused to explain it. You apparently don't think that's a legitimate reason... oh wait, earlier you said that not posting is bad and can convince you that someone is scum. You are seriously dumb.
Why did you wait so long to do it? Why did you keep on haylen for 20 pages when glork was a much stronger scum read for 5 of them?

PeregrineV wrote:I'm ready to play the "Can CoolDog read?" game.

@CoolDog- Why am I voting Haylen?

You made twoposts before you haylen vote.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4036188
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4036191

And your actual vote:
PeregrineV wrote:@Glork-number 13 on the player list. I'm hurt that you forgot I was in the game. You know, if it' s true.

@haylen-
no faking conversations allowed.

VOTE: Haylen

Which is a really stupid reason to vote for someone. If an actual reason at all. Your claim that she is faking a conversation is unsubstantiated with any evidence. You haven't shown me any evidence that haylen has actually done the thing that you are saying that she has done. Just face it, you are not trying to actively scum hunt. If you were you would be more aggressive on your scum reads instead of throwing wimpy reasons out there.

GreyICE wrote:Hey CooLDoG, you're just chopping up all these posts into these stupid little walls where you offer useless little comments that NEVER DEVELOP INTO ANYTHING. They're just little snippets of commentary with no coherent whole, no coherent thoughts, no chain of logic or central drive. They're just these comments. Like you're a color commentator at a football game.

Why?

That is my style of posting. Also, it is more for my reference in catch-up. This is one of the few times that I have ever had to make a big catch up (you can look into my record if you must) in a game. I didn't really know how to approach it, so You got what you got. I admit that it is not the best, but it is all I have for the 20+ pages I had to catch up on.
Also, how does this make me scum? Because I still don't get your scum read on me, at all.



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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 1:49 am

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Oh here we go again. :roll:

CooLDoG wrote:
YEah, other than the fact that you talked about your reads being original in more than one post and you made a big stink about it in almost every one of your posts with glork. :roll: Keep digging the hole. I want you lynched.


I explained my reads in 456 in response to Jason's accusations in 452.
I called my reads "original" in Post 483 in response to Murasa's accusation of parroting in 482.
Glork called my post a "stock non-answer" in 616 and I rebutted it in 624.

That's ALLLLL the posts of mine that could possibly be interpreted as talking about my reads being original.

I demand you show that I talked about this in "almost every one" of my posts with Glork.


DW wrote:How does this deal with you telling a flat out lie and you pulling a definition of a word right out of your ass to make your case sound better?


What "flat out lie" is this?

Why did you wait so long to do it? Why did you keep on haylen for 20 pages when glork was a much stronger scum read for 5 of them?


Hey, Cooldog. I'm going to give you a lesson in counting.

Hold out your first and raise one finger each time I give a post number.

Post 628 - Glork simply refuses to address the inconsistency I pointed out in his logic.
Post 633 - I vote Glork for refusing to do so.

In case you lost count, that's 2. If that sounds like I waited "so long" to do it, then that's probably because 2 was the highest grade level you successfully completed.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 1:58 am

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EBWOP: * first should be fist
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 2:25 am

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The lie is about the filler. Which you made up a definition for. And if we go by your definition of filler YOUR posts are ALL filler because you are being "abrasive". I'll get you those quote links. But, really, I couldn't care less. Your responses aren't going to change my vote on you.

Also, you making only two posts about your suspicion of glork is false. Simply false. I don't have time right now to quote every post in your iso, soooo. I'll get you that later. Okay?
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 2:44 am

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CooLDoG wrote:The lie is about the filler. Which you made up a definition for. And if we go by your definition of filler YOUR posts are ALL filler because you are being "abrasive". I'll get you those quote links. But, really, I couldn't care less. Your responses aren't going to change my vote on you.

Also, you making only two posts about your suspicion of glork is false. Simply false. I don't have time right now to quote every post in your iso, soooo. I'll get you that later. Okay?


It's so hard to play a game with someone who is functionally illiterate. I never said that I made two posts about my Glork suspicions. I said that my reason for voting Glork was his refusal to explain the logical inconsistency that I pointed out, and it was only two posts (mine and his) until I did that.

This is relevant to my filler argument. I'm saying that when someone replaces discussion/argumentation with simple abrasiveness, that's unacceptable. I'm not saying that any abrasiveness at all is bad. Seriously learn how to read dude.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 3:07 am

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I like the tone of condescension in 808. For that is what CoolDog deserves.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 6:27 am

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Guys, I am here. Sorry, I have been dosed with flu since Sunday night after work and spent most of it in bed. I am starting to feel a bit better so going to start working through from where I left off soon.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 6:39 am

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UberNinja wrote:
Porochaz wrote:
UberNinja wrote:
Porochaz wrote:I read the whole game again today and your iso three times I think. Once around page 15, once near the end and once when I was writing the final post to see if I had missed some original opinion. Fact is, regardless of what you might say, you have done almost nothing to convince me you have an original thought about this game and you have been piggy backing on the people with the loudest voices to look like you are doing something and to seem like a generally amicable person.

It's part of an active attempt to change my play style because if you want to look at my meta, I have been mislynched on Day 1 three times (extremely recently) because I rock the boat too much.

So far it's going to plan.
- People are reading me as town for the right reasons.
- I feel as if I am contributing to the flow of the game.
- The people I want lynched are being wagoned.

I don't see much incentive to change the way I'm playing, and you shaking a stick at me isn't making me feel guilty for playing in a way that feels good to me. I enjoy playing mafia more when I'm not at other people's throats and others aren't at my throat.

If you want, you can lynch me for being "obstinate" and for not catering to your whims, but you can also read my past games (some of them still ongoing) to see how that worked out for everyone else who thought that was a good idea.

Check my wiki, specifically the games that say "Mislynched on Day 1".

Really? People are lynching you for "rocking the boat"? Links?

Wow, really? It's literally THE LINE ABOVE.

UberNinja wrote:Check my wiki, specifically the games that say "Mislynched on Day 1".


Ok, read them, now repeat, "I was lynched for rocking the boat"

Because I'd call you a big fat liar.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 6:48 am

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Thread locked while things are discussed.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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Thread reopened. See here for info.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 7:23 am

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DeltaWave wrote:
CooLDoG wrote:The lie is about the filler. Which you made up a definition for. And if we go by your definition of filler YOUR posts are ALL filler because you are being "abrasive". I'll get you those quote links. But, really, I couldn't care less. Your responses aren't going to change my vote on you.

Also, you making only two posts about your suspicion of glork is false. Simply false. I don't have time right now to quote every post in your iso, soooo. I'll get you that later. Okay?


It's so hard to play a game with someone who is functionally illiterate. I never said that I made two posts about my Glork suspicions. I said that my reason for voting Glork was his refusal to explain the logical inconsistency that I pointed out, and it was only two posts (mine and his) until I did that.

This is relevant to my filler argument. I'm saying that when someone replaces discussion/argumentation with simple abrasiveness, that's unacceptable. I'm not saying that any abrasiveness at all is bad. Seriously learn how to read dude.

Sorry, you are being to abrasive and I consider this filler. I don't like to post about filler because there is no content in posts that are just filler. Sorry man, if we are going to use the definitions that you use we have to be universal with the application of those definitions. If you say that white = black in order to shove some sort of bullshit argument (Hint: you did) then by all means let us all apply the same exact definition to your posts and see if it stands.

I repeat,
according to you
your posts are just filler.

The specific argument about the filler does not make you scum, it is the fact that you felt you need to justify your false statements after you got caught red-handed. That is all it is about, you trying to save your own skin any way you can.

But, I'm not supposed to be talking about filler. Because that means I am engaging in meaningless conversation, which is scummy, right? :roll: Or are you going to change the definition again?

Anyway. I can't be arsed right now to do my quotes, but you sorta answered it for me:

I never said that I made two posts about my Glork suspicions.

Which heavily implies that you made more than two posts about your glork suspicion, which is what we are talking about. So again, you are back tracking and trying to cover your ass, aren't you?
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 7:31 am

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CooLDoG wrote:Sorry, you are being to abrasive and I consider this filler. I don't like to post about filler because there is no content in posts that are just filler. Sorry man, if we are going to use the definitions that you use we have to be universal with the application of those definitions. If you say that white = black in order to shove some sort of bullshit argument (Hint: you did) then by all means let us all apply the same exact definition to your posts and see if it stands.

I repeat,
according to you
your posts are just filler.

The specific argument about the filler does not make you scum, it is the fact that you felt you need to justify your false statements after you got caught red-handed. That is all it is about, you trying to save your own skin any way you can.

But, I'm not supposed to be talking about filler. Because that means I am engaging in meaningless conversation, which is scummy, right? :roll: Or are you going to change the definition again?


Read the dictionary. Filler: "a thing or substance used to fill a gap, cavity, or the like."

This is exactly how I'm using it. As I said in post 811, I'm talking about abrasiveness being used
in place of an argument[/b.] Specifically this is referring to how Glork is outright refusing to answer me.

How long will it take for you to get this through your head?

Anyway. I can't be arsed right now to do my quotes, but you sorta answered it for me:

I never said that I made two posts about my Glork suspicions.

Which heavily implies that you made more than two posts about your glork suspicion, which is what we are talking about. So again, you are back tracking and trying to cover your ass, aren't you?


Do you even read the stuff you post? You said:

CooLDoG wrote:OMGUS TO DA MAX. No really, if your reads are so strong on haylen and nothing much really changed between you and glork over the three pages I just read (about 20 to 24) then why not keep it on haylen? And why wait so long to switch to glork. You had many more legitamite oppertunities to switch your vote, but you waited for
some
reason.


I'm talking about the reason why I switched my vote. This is what YOU were talking about. But apparently you have the attention span of a fly.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 9:07 am

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oh come the fuck on

"check my wiki" =/= talking about ongoing

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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 9:19 am

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Should probably not comment on it further, you know.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 9:20 am

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shut the hell up, you
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:17 am

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Regardless of whatever game, completed or not, your excuse does not absolve you from your actions within this game and what's more when people use an excuse like "rocking the boat" it is almost certainly not going to be true.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:07 am

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People didn't accuse me of that, it's just what I did as a way of scumhunting.

Needless to say, it's not really a good idea for me to continue on that course.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:12 am

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Porochaz's opinions on Glork, including his 'change of opinion' post on Glork.

(Posting this for myself -- with a few comments -- so I don't have to iso to find it later)

Porochaz wrote:Murasa is bugging me. Partly because I don't know who it is, but mostly because his opinions are not good.

Page 2 UN started to get scummy, didn't see the Haylen problem and UN hasn't really done anything to alleviate my suspicions.

Glork bugged me a little due to his vote change making his initial UN vote seem pointless and made me feel the Haylen vote wasn't worth much either, but since he changed back, he has stopped worrying me.

Jason stop posting.

Porochaz wrote:Oh that would explain it.

Glad Glork is flailing. Makes all his posts so far a bit worthless.

Porochaz wrote:MoS, you do that, I vote for you.

Glork isn't playing his town game here.

Porochaz wrote:
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Porochaz wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:
Porochaz wrote:MoS, you do that, I vote for you.

Glork isn't playing his town game here.


Was there a particular post, or is this an overall thing?


You should read my posts addressed to him.


LoL, so basically you would vote me for sheeping Glork because he's not playing his town game, rather than voting Glork for not playing his town game?

HMMMMMM

Yeah it doesn't make much sense does it...


No idea whats going on with this formatting and scrolling functions here (I can't see what Im typing), I am on my mums computer and she like internet explorer... so if this posts comes out bollocks thats why....

You need to read the game, or at least sheep someone else. Glork is not a good sheep at the moment. Even reading glork in iso, you will find that he isn't being as reasoned as usual. His vote on UN for instance was based on a meta that UN himself posted in mafia discussion.

Porochaz wrote:
unvote vote Glork


You have failed to make a good well reasoned vote thus far in the game.

Grey - I believe that any post I have made not addressing you has been me scumhunting. If you disagree with that, please provide evidence of that.

Porochaz wrote:The fact (and for some reason everyone has forgotten this) that deadline is still 11 days away hasn't been lost on me. Also whilst you could argue "Haylen is a distraction - we should lynch her, to remove the distraction", this doesn't get to the root of the problem. Why is she a distraction? To me, she isn't a distraction. I haven't seen much she has done wrong. Maybe instead we should be lynching the person who is causing that distraction, first was Grey Ice, now honestly, its you. You are finding Haylen a distraction, but honestly, Im not really seeing anyone finding it anything other than an issue like any other in a game. Im trying to work out A. why you are making this such a big deal? and B. why are you trying to make easy routes out of scumhunting?

Grey - okay, lets move on. However please put your vote back on Glork, vote for who you think is scum, not your team.

Glork - UN was a terrible, terrible vote. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

Your other votes are also under-explained.

Porochaz wrote:No UN is scum to me. But glorks vote was bad.

Porochaz wrote:Glork I expect, in short as I have work, a much higher posting standard from you as town, which you haven't really gotten to. I'll get to what I mean about your shit votes after work.

Porochaz wrote:
Captain Murasa wrote:Lol I forgot the wagon on me dissapeared :V


Right, was just about to read up (need to go to the shops now, so it will have to wait) and talk about Glork a bit, but this a terrible post. I'm tempted to vote you right now for this post.

Porochaz wrote:Glork, stop making me think your town. I want to be stubborn and set in my ways.

Porochaz wrote:MoS why do you think Glork is town?

Porochaz wrote:Hi Glork,

Here is my problem with you.

There is a site meta which you have picked up recently which I hate. You didn't use to do this so it's why Im finding it scummy. So let's get this ironed out, it's always going to go against you but I want to explain my thought process.

Your votes have been on Haylen, UN, Pere, iam and Delta. The first four of which you failed to really give a clear explanation on, hence the flailing comments. It took a bit to get clear reasoning out of you for the first two. When I did, I felt the reasoning was extremely poor, particularly in UN's case.

Haylen was okay as an exploratory vote (which by the way, is not a vote to lynch, hence different things) but from the look of your posts you seem lost by where you should stand with her. I have no idea what your actual thoughts are and to be honest I've stopped caring, they seem to change with every Haylen related post. Regardless from the reasoning you gave me was that she was playing against meta. Not a particularly strong reason...

But then we move onto UN. Who you seemed to vote for based on a statement he made in mafia discussion about his own meta. Him discussing his own meta in another mafia game would be an iffy vote. If you know your meta, you can change your meta. I am unsure why I have had to say it to you. You have taking a random statement from a random thread in mafia discussion to choose how to vote. I don't know how you can't see how ridiculous tenuous that is.

Your next two votes are lurker votes. Easy, brainless votes.

Then we move onto your "scumhunting" post and site meta and one of the main reasons Im pissing off soon. It's this whole "Blah Blah is town" or "Proffesor X is scum, LYNCH LYNCH DIE SUCK DIE" mentality. It's clearly shown in your Jason statement. Where you pointing out Jason is town is scumhunting. Firstly, and not really my point, it's not, it's townhunting. Secondly, it's not because you are telling us Jason is town, you aren't telling us why. Now people like Grey, I can get pissy with all I want, they play like that. But for someone who is usually well reasoned, outside as well as inside of games, you not telling us your reasoning suggests to me you don't have any or they are just really weak votes.

Then we move onto the Deltawave vote, and you have redeemed yourself somewhat with that vote. It's like you have suddenly managed to sink your teeth into something thats not shit. I am interested in how that argument goes. Will be looking closer at deltawave in the coming days.

unvote

My my. What a long post with what seems to be a sole purpose of justifying an unvote on Glork.
Look into this later.


Porochaz wrote:Pages 6 to 15...

6 - 10 really established my earlier reads and gave me a few town reads as well. (cooldog as a townread was a surprise) 11 to 15 had some interesting stuff in it, but it's been discussed before (Glorks vote on Haylen etc.) However I wanted to start paying attention to Uber. Now, I have been trying to work out how good Uber is at the game. For some reason, I didn't rate him much. It's difficult for me to notice because the Haylen-Glork-Grey thing got so big, and Cappy seems to be hogging all the useless banter limelight. Uber, isn't doing that as such, he's posting lots but its mainly to just agree and parrot arguments others have made. Whats more the vast majority of his posts are one liners. I can't help get the feeling of a lot of coasting but a failure to be deeply ingrained in the game.

So I want a case, UberNinja. I want your top suspect and I want reasons and your thought processes behind what you are thinking.

Porochaz wrote:Up to 25, now we get into the Glork/Delta argument. Im glad because I hadn't delved too deeply into it and it was interesting. It was interesting mainly because 2011 is trying to school 2005. However, what I am seeing is two egos at work and because Glork is the more experienced player. He is always going to win the argument. I mean I did think DW had a point on the self-meta (I made it myself I think) and I don't like Glork referring to it. However Glork is correct on the cookie cutter cases and whats more he is starting to drill holes in this case. Which is also what made it interesting, I haven't seen someone make a case implode like that for a long time.

Other than that, I want to post in some of the MD threads posted by Glork and Haylen, relevant to my interests.

UN has moved on to Deltawave, Grey seemed to have settled, so it was only natural for UN to detach his head from grey and jump to the next blood filled animal. Murasa is increasingly becoming less scum more bleh. Slaxx's position interests me, especially as I seem to have missed a large amount of him and Pere from the game.

Porochaz wrote:
Glork wrote:You'd make an excellent 21st century politician, Delta. I stated exactly why I had issue with 429. I said in plain words -- and I quote -- "There isn't even any ATE in that post."


And no, me being snide and angry is just a part of my mafia persona. You're more than welcome to ask for confirmation from MoS, Porochaz, GreyICE, PereV, Haylen, or anyone in your QuickTopic who has played with me in the past.


Its true. See Weasel Mafia. He was a fucking dick.

Porochaz wrote:My opinions on Glork are well documented.

My opinion on Cooldog is in my multitude of posts I just made.

Apologies for the semi cryptic answers, I like to think people read my things.
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