The game of the year: town won!

[Fritzler]

Vote: IceGuy

Freudian slip with the town/scum bs and then his last post was useless fluff; he could just look through the thread

He is probably doing that on purpose because he is a Mime. Please let the vig kill him.

unvote, vote: mini-librarian

[Chevre]

MattP: I agree that IceGuy would look scummy under normal circumstances, but with the existence of mimes he is looking pretty shady. I totally agree that he could be a mime which did not realize that mykonian would reveal the win condition of the mime faction, but I also wonder if he is acting this way because he knew of the mimes, or simply because it is, after all, a 50-player game.

There definitely needs to be a more thorough discussion on the "most likely mime" so that a vig can kill them. If I had to choose, I would say Milk is the player the most likely to be a mime.

[theamatuer]

We probably need to get rid of all the mimes. Given that they know each other, its probably a team of 4-5. Vigging one of them is ok, but I dont wanna know what will the mimes do after they're win condition is screwed.
also

vote: johhog

[theamatuer]

actually

@mod: what happens to mimes if they are unable to complete their win con?

[Hoopla]

Mimes are likely to try and lurk, imo. Avoid getting their name in the limelight for NK selections and also increases their chances of being lynched.

[MattP]

Prob true, I misread as only the last surviving mime wins. Never mind.

unvote

p-edit: Iceguy is the most obvious mime for his stupid fabricated scumslip and he should be vigged so that the mimes can feel cry over the fact the iceguy ruined the game for them in the first five pages

p-edit2: That's a fail strategy, we should treat mimes like the SK and PL them after we have vigged one

[IceGuy]

*sigh*

No, I really don't see the reason why that wagon on TML suddenly formed.

Yes, the "mislynch" thing was sarcasm.

No, when I said "I'm scum" I wasn't scum being truthful. I just forgot to add the word "not".

Does it really take a mime flip for me to not get lynched on D1 because I actually bother to play instead of lurk like most scum do?

EBWOP: MattP, you're awfully fast in changing your opinions. It's almost like you pick them up and discard them as you see fit, staying under the radar while silently pushing lynches. VOTE: MattP

Regarding mimes,

@Mod: Are you at liberty to disclose if "(more than) half of all players alive belong to that faction" is the wincon of at least one faction?

[MattP]

No, when I said "I'm scum" I wasn't scum being truthful. I just forgot to add the word "not".

No, then you would have corrected yourself to "not scum*" rather than "town*"

Also, me being confused about the dynamics of the game =/= me opportunistically pushing lynches.

[SpyreX]

MattP is probably my #1 town read at this point and playing up NOT A MIMMEEE is silliness ex machina.

Is TML down? If not I'd like to swing it away, if so lets move ahead a different direction a bit slower.

[IceGuy]

No, then you would have corrected yourself to "not scum*" rather than "town*"

...

[mykonian]

actually

@mod: what happens to mimes if they are unable to complete their win con?

they leave

[imaginality]

First up, I second SpyreX's "fluff is especially scummy in this game" policy.

I actually liked Rhinox's plan. Being part of the 10-man group under suspicion would be like taking part in a 10-man wrestling match knowing the audience are allowed to throw knives at you. There'd be heightened pressure on scum knowing everyone is watching out for slips, and the scum not part of the 10-player group would have to weigh up whether to lurk or to help or hinder their teammate(s).

But, I'm not sure what the minimum number of players who agree with the idea would need to be for us to run with it, and it looks like there's not much buy-in happening. (Possibly an idea worth resurrecting D2 though?)

In the meantime,

VOTE: The Mini-Librarian

Pretty sure he's not a mime because mimes probably wouldn't have worried about asking for the policy lynch reason before making their leap onto the Chesskid wagon. That seemed more like scum who have already decided to jump on the wagon but don't want to look opportunistic.

Post 45 is bad - pre-emptively disvowing any responsibility for his part in the upcoming mislynch with "if I didn't help with this mislynch someone else would":

@soad: yep. If people as a whole don't like him I will bow down to the judgment of the masses.

Especially

in this game. Taking my one vote off isn't going to stop chess from getting lynched.

And something about the way he asked if mimes can be NKed sounded slightly scummy to me:

FFS. Mimes? Is it possible for these guys to be nked?

[imaginality]

If I counted correctly, that's L-1.

[IceGuy]

@Mod: Are you at liberty to disclose if "(more than) half of all players alive belong to that faction" is the wincon of at least one faction?

[mykonian]

Votecount

The mini-libarian (9): syndromeofadown, YYR, Rhinox, Amrun, hoopla, T-bone, Spyrex, Fritzler, Imaginality
iceguy (2): izakthegoomba, nobody special
rhinox (2): agar, dramonic
petapan (1): Iceguy
Izakthegoomba (1): Johhog
johhog (1): theamateur
mattp (1): iceguy

[The Mini-Librarian]

URRRRRRRRRGH.

I was told Chesskid was a good policy lynch. I voted for him.

I take complete responsibility for that.

I brought up the "Chesskid was as good as dead thing" because I was accused of being opportunistic. Which is just false.

You know what have been more opportunistic for me? Not posting. Because I wouldn't have to expose myself

and

Chess would be dead.

So are you guys really voting me for asking why we are policy lynching someone and then going along with it?

[SpyreX]

Ehhh I think he's town if he hasn't been lynched. I'm a VT in multilynch isn't going to save you even a little (of course now cats and bags, etc).

Imagine goes on the townpile though.

[MattP]

TML is my strongest townread. If anyone is lynching him to make this day move faster then take your vote off of him.

[SpyreX]

Unvote

I think you're right and PARTY HARD says lets purge some wagon votes.

[Rhinox]

You know what have been more opportunistic for me? Not posting. Because I wouldn't have to expose myself and Chess would be dead.

Therefore everyone on the chess wagon was town then right?

[BBmolla]

What the shit

Where are the daykills.

Areyougoddamnkiddingme.jpg

[PeregrineV]

If Mimes are a threat to town, then by all means let's mime-hunt. Otherwise, aside from screwing up vote count analysis (if those are even possible in a game this size), they should be scumhunting and are more annoyance than threat.

Rhinox plan is good, and he'll stay a town read for it.
I think the portion of the plan people are missing is that each group will be looked at closely by all players, and focus should be on that group for a few days. This does not preclude you from scumhunting elsewhere, but it will be the FOCUS group.
If that's too much to think about, consider it multi-tasking. Scumhunt everybody while simultaneously scumhunting in that group.

Am down with the TML lynch, but he's climbing back up from the scumpool, and I have no probelem letting him contiue redeeming himself.

However, Rhinox votes are bad.

Vote: Dramonic

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Milk

[BBmolla]

Wagon time folks.

[YYR]

Any particular reason you chose Milk over all the other people who had basically no reason for their votes?