TM2012: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.24

Amrun (3) - Johhog, Captain Haddock, Regfan
Cogito Ergo Sum (3) - Benmage, Thestatusquo, Llamarble
Thestatusquo (3) - singersigner, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zachrulez
Johhog (2) - SocioPath, Matias
Captain Haddock (1) - Amrun

Not Voting (1) - Bub Bidderskins

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, May 21, 2012, at 12:00 AM EDT (UTC-4).

[singersigner]

Yes it's a wall, suck it. I shouldn't get any further behind now because I'm all caught up (and don't need to catch up more, as the case was).

Also, Johhog gets a few extra town points for bringing up Benmage's bullshit with not calling Shea scum, when he clearly did.

@Matias...how do you feel about Benmage?

[SocioPath]

I'm curious as to what GreyICE doesn't like about shitty life things happening to me...

Oh wait, I bet I can guess.

I agree with the sentiment here that GREY's opinions of anything related to singer is stupid and should be ignored.

Tell me, do you think lurking is ok for anyone to do? Would you allow anyone to get away with it? What about when they come back?

If you answer "yes" to any of these, sdfjanbzl;ksnim fa;kdgjanerlgkjh.

Yes, I plan on letting myself get away with lurking.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Could you move your vote someplace useful, Socio?

[Zachrulez]

(woah, I'd been working on this post since last night, came in as read the last page today, and got my own ninja...weird...)

Hey Bub, why would your team send you out as town?

I'm stuck in a massive town losing streak. Due to the tigerpocalypse it's hard to tell how large exactly, but I think it's 6-8 town losses in a row. I just can't seem to figure out how to hunt for scum. I don't get lynched, because I've learned how play "townie" (hence my much higher scum win percentage), but I just can't find scum.

Right now I'm on a mafia break, and when I get back into a mafia game, I want my town game to be better than it is now. Is there any hope for me?

This is actually a good point. I feel as though his answer (I don't like themes, etc) doesn't really cover the options of the other two that are not themed.

I think it needs to be pointed out that all of this presumes that bub's team had any scum PMs to distribute to begin with.

On TSQ's town reads. They are exclusively on people who were on the fence with him annoyed with his lurking, but not sure if it made him scum. I think that's all that needs to be said there.

[SocioPath]

Could you move your vote someplace useful, Socio?

No, not at this point.
That is for later.


A vote is a vote, whether it is first or last.

[singersigner]

Yes, I plan on letting myself get away with lurking.

As I suspected.

Oh well. You coming to SoL?

Preview Edit:
I was going to point that out, but his answer specifically notes that he doesn't like themes, when there are two other non-themed game options. It just seems weird that we would make such a big deal out of being so bad at town...

[SocioPath]

Yes, I plan on letting myself get away with lurking.

As I suspected.

I DONT NEED TO EXPLAIN MYSELF TO YOU.

Oh well. You coming to SoL?

I DONT NEED TO EXPLAIN MYSELF TO YOU.

[singersigner]

I laughed out loud.

[Amrun]

What's the difference between Shea's noncontribution and Socio's, and why should only one of them be pressure voted for it and not the other?

There's a humongous difference, and it's disturbing if you don't see it.

Socio has been here from the beginning, going NANANANA I'M NOT GOING TO PROVIDE CONTENT WHEEEEEEEEEEE~ and saying things that are blatantly false (which I wish I could explain, but I can't because of RULEZ), while TSQ was straight up lurking and saying, "I will provide content in the future."

And it's not that both don't need pressure, but TSQ already had/has been pressured over it, while Socio has been completely ignored.

And I'm NOT arguing that TSQ has a lot of content. You are completely ignoring the context. TSQ said, "I don't have time to catch up so I'm going to play from this point onwards and start providing content," and then did that. Johhog came on like two posts later and was like, "YOU PROMISED CONTENT AND THERE ISN'T ANY!" That wasn't true and didn't make any sense at all. TSQ didn't say, "Hey, I've read the thread, here's my catch up: Amrun is town." Johhog acted as if that was the case. I can't tell if he is just not reading and pushing something stupid, or pushing something stupid on purpose.

[Johhog]

Now look, this is the last time I'm explaining this and from now on you'll have to read yourselves. I'll try to explain it in a way that is easy to understand too:

A) TSQ posts a bit of fluff and a vote with zilch explanation.
B) When questioned TSQ says that he's been providing content.
C) Johhog calls TSQ out on it and tells him he hasn't.
D) TSQ provides content.
E) Everyone goes "Oh, Johhog, you scummy fuck, why did you say that TSQ didn't provide content when he clearly did?".
F) Johhog facepalms.

Seriously, that's how this conversation feels for me. It's idiotic and I won't explain it again.

[Equinox]

Matias has been prodded.

[singersigner]

lol, Amrun, you always resort to fear mongering instead of simply answering questions posed to you. Why? Am I "scummy" for not seeing the difference?

You're letting Socio troll you and it's

hilarious

.

Also, I understand your point about Johhog; however, you DID argue that Shea has provided content (as I had quoted), so I asked you to show me where. Please do so.

Preview Edit:
@Johhog...I *facepalmed* too. >_>

[singersigner]

Basically it comes down to this: Shea just said that the lurking case on his was bullshit, and now that he was around and posting, he should be lynched because of lurking...but the only things he was posting AT THAT TIME were defenses of his lack of lurking. It's a twisted circle, and I haven't seen him provide anything that's worthy of labeling as "content."

[Benmage]

In red?

Oh right, there's 4 scum this game too....

[Benmage]

Yes it's a wall, suck it. I shouldn't get any further behind now because I'm all caught up (and don't need to catch up more, as the case was).

Also, Johhog gets a few extra town points for bringing up Benmage's bullshit with not calling Shea scum, when he clearly did.

@Matias...how do you feel about Benmage?

Uhmmm can you quote be calling him scum... I wouldn't be that surprised if I did more as a PoE thing, due to town reads etc etc... all I see is him in "other and remainder "....

-johog, I fail to see the point of your post... can you say something with more substance please.

[Benmage]

-Singer, the awaken the dragon bit comes from aSoS where Mina called me out, wrongfully ... for not being as intense as I had been in WoT Mafia... I'm pretty sure I've referenced the dragon thing when starting slow beforehand.

And if we want to use WM2... look at my opening post. A declaration of a change in benmage behavior. That caused substantial backlash, which if you will likely awoken said dragon.

[Benmage]

socio

since you're clearly town, can you vote CES or atleast give an opinion on him please.

[Bub Bidderskins]

(woah, I'd been working on this post since last night, came in as read the last page today, and got my own ninja...weird...)

Hey Bub, why would your team send you out as town?

I'm stuck in a massive town losing streak. Due to the tigerpocalypse it's hard to tell how large exactly, but I think it's 6-8 town losses in a row. I just can't seem to figure out how to hunt for scum. I don't get lynched, because I've learned how play "townie" (hence my much higher scum win percentage), but I just can't find scum.

Right now I'm on a mafia break, and when I get back into a mafia game, I want my town game to be better than it is now. Is there any hope for me?

This is actually a good point. I feel as though his answer (I don't like themes, etc) doesn't really cover the options of the other two that are not themed.

I think it needs to be pointed out that all of this presumes that bub's team had any scum PMs to distribute to begin with.

On TSQ's town reads. They are exclusively on people who were on the fence with him annoyed with his lurking, but not sure if it made him scum. I think that's all that needs to be said there.

unvote; vote: Zach

Why are you voting for somebody that you aren't sure is scum four days until deadline. I really don't like how your vote has been parked on the easiest wagon to get on.

Has Shea posted yet?

Nope?

confirm vote: Thestatusquo

Sure he has, if you're counting posts that aren't being made in this game.

Unvote: Vote: Thestatusquo

That was made on May 8. That vote has been there ever since, and it was after the wagon had started. That vote has been totally useless for over a week.

[SocioPath]

socio

since you're clearly town

Lets not start this shit.

can you vote CES or atleast give an opinion on him please.

You mean the person that has been plastering your name all over his scum list all game?
There are worse people out there, including those that have attacked him.

[Equinox]

Captain Falcon replaces Captain Haddock.

[Zachrulez]

(woah, I'd been working on this post since last night, came in as read the last page today, and got my own ninja...weird...)

Hey Bub, why would your team send you out as town?

I'm stuck in a massive town losing streak. Due to the tigerpocalypse it's hard to tell how large exactly, but I think it's 6-8 town losses in a row. I just can't seem to figure out how to hunt for scum. I don't get lynched, because I've learned how play "townie" (hence my much higher scum win percentage), but I just can't find scum.

Right now I'm on a mafia break, and when I get back into a mafia game, I want my town game to be better than it is now. Is there any hope for me?

This is actually a good point. I feel as though his answer (I don't like themes, etc) doesn't really cover the options of the other two that are not themed.

I think it needs to be pointed out that all of this presumes that bub's team had any scum PMs to distribute to begin with.

On TSQ's town reads. They are exclusively on people who were on the fence with him annoyed with his lurking, but not sure if it made him scum. I think that's all that needs to be said there.

unvote; vote: Zach

Why are you voting for somebody that you aren't sure is scum four days until deadline. I really don't like how your vote has been parked on the easiest wagon to get on.

Has Shea posted yet?

Nope?

confirm vote: Thestatusquo

Sure he has, if you're counting posts that aren't being made in this game.

Unvote: Vote: Thestatusquo

That was made on May 8. That vote has been there ever since, and it was after the wagon had started. That vote has been totally useless for over a week.

How would you know how sure I am anyway?

Not that it's possible to be 100% sure without actually being scum...

I haven't moved the vote because I haven't really had any reason to.

[singersigner]

unvote; vote: Zach

Why are you voting for somebody that you aren't sure is scum four days until deadline. I really don't like how your vote has been parked on the easiest wagon to get on.

Has Shea posted yet?

Nope?

confirm vote: Thestatusquo

Sure he has, if you're counting posts that aren't being made in this game.

Unvote: Vote: Thestatusquo

That was made on May 8. That vote has been there ever since, and it was after the wagon had started. That vote has been totally useless for over a week.

So your solution is to start a completely new wagon four days from deadline?

[singersigner]

Actually, a few things:

1. Do you think Shea is town?

2. Does not moving his vote make Zach scum?

3. Why do you think it's the easiest wagon?

[Captain Falcon]

Hello, my friends and enemies

I have just a few things to say
I am a Captain, here to stay
With moves like fire
a killer desire
No wonder the scum won't come out and play
Afraid of my prowess, they hide and quiver
My sheer presence makes them

SHIVER