Open 403 - Donner Party (Game Over)

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.1

Xalxe

(5) - Mortontfrh, Chimera, vijay2vasandani, Cogito Ergo Sum, Glork

Guy_Named_Riggs

(2) - Xalxe, saulres

Cogito Ergo Sum

(1) - Fritzler,

Glork

Glork

(1) - scotmany12

Fritzler

(1) - Guy_Named_Riggs

Mortontfrh

(0) -

Xalxe, vijay2vasandani

scotmany12

(0) -

Glork

izakthegoomba

(0) -

saulres

Not voting

(2) -

Cogito Ergo Sum, Xalxe, vijay2vasandani,

izakthegoomba,

Chimera, saulres, Guy_Named_Riggs, Mortontfrh, Fritzler, scotmany12,

Shadoweh,

Glork

Please do not talk about ongoing games.

izakthegoomba is V/LA until Sunday night (May 20th).

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
The deadline is June 2 at 1:30 AM GMT (DST). Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2012-06-02 01:30:00)

[Fritzler]

Unvote, Vote: Xalxe

I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim

and

die.

[Shadoweh]

##Vote: Fritzer

Unless you honestly plan to lynch someone off of RVS votes running people up for claims is stupid. Xalxe doesn't look defensive anyways, just looking for information in the low count stage of the game.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

^is getting vigged.

[Xalxe]

You're boring.

Vote: Xalxe

This wagon is suddenly excellent.

Goddamn it you're scum aren't you?

Unvote, Vote: Xalxe

I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim

and

die.

Protective? Defensive might be better, but I'd disagree. I'm trying to get people talking because nobody was doing anything. Clearly scumhunting is bad.

Wait, did Fritz and Glork just tell me scumhunting was bad? Dafuq is this game?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Asking boring questions =/= scumhunting. Don't be dense.

[Xalxe]

I'm sorry, what questions would you

like

me to ask?

[Fritzler]

I would like you to ask: "vanilla or chocolate?"

[Glork]

POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

Never.

unvote

no need for a quick lynch yet

[saulres]

The only positions I've used to catch scum are first and last. But I do look for scum among the reasons given for joining a wagon (once said wagon actually flips, mind you).

So if you don't want me thinking you're scum, please give a reason when you place your vote. While you might think the reason is obvious (and here I'm looking at Glork and vijay) I often don't see what others do but can appreciate arguments.

I think CES can vouch for that, I remember asking him for his reasons in another game and getting very frustrated when he said something like "Look at his ISO" -- if I can't see what you see, then I have no reason to agree with you.

[scotmany12]

POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

Way back in the beginning of time.

Xalxe. Your questions were anything but scumhunting. I don't think they serve any purpose.

[Mortontfrh]

I'm not a fan of how quickly Xalxe was put at L-1, especially without any mention of it.

Unvote, Vote: Xalxe

I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim

and

die.

Unvote

Vote: Fritzler

Are you aware that this was an L-1 vote? If so, why didn't you bother to make any mention of it?

[scotmany12]

I'm not a fan of how quickly Xalxe was put at L-1, especially without any mention of it.

Unvote, Vote: Xalxe

I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim

and

die.

Unvote

Vote: Fritzler

Are you aware that this was an L-1 vote? If so, why didn't you bother to make any mention of it?

Him saying claim and die is both him showing that he is aware of being L-1 and hi making a mention of it. That's pretty obvious.

[Mortontfrh]

No, it's really not considering that vote was placed at the start of page 2 where asking for claims isn't normal behavior.

I assumed he was being sarcastic with his request for him to claim, I didn't view it as a "I'm announcing that you're at L-1 by saying that I want you hammered".

[saulres]

unvote

no need for a quick lynch yet

So you unvoted to make sure Xalxe doesn't get quick lynched?

Only problem with that is your vote was on Fritzler, who had only two votes, so Xalxe is still at L-1, even though your post tried to make it seem like it wasn't.

My RVS vote on you is now a real one.

[saulres]

EBWOP Actually at the time of the unvote yours was the [/i]only[/i] vote on Fritzler.

[saulres]

ebwop2 damn i'm tired. Maybe there were three. Any way you cut it, your post was misleading and Fritzler wasn't at risk of quickhammer.

[Fritzler]

No, it's really not considering that vote was placed at the start of page 2 where asking for claims isn't normal behavior.

I assumed he was being sarcastic with his request for him to claim, I didn't view it as a "I'm announcing that you're at L-1 by saying that I want you hammered".

Ummmm...it is pretty obvious that I knew I was L-1 when I told him to claim. You claim at L-1 and then you get lynched and die. That is pretty much the pretty triple truth. I am sorry that you don't understand subtext, and I will never try to read Wilde with you.

P.S. Wilde is a homosexual FYI.

[Fritzler]

No, it's really not considering that vote was placed at the start of page 2 where asking for claims isn't normal behavior.

Also, since when is asking for claims on page 2 not normal behaviour? This is my first game in ages, mate. We normally have like seven page games. I realize GOTY is going to last longer, but this won't will it?

[Fritzler]

Also, why are you such a total asshole?

FOS

[Mortontfrh]

Ummmm...it is pretty obvious that I knew I was L-1 when I told him to claim. You claim at L-1 and then you get lynched and die. That is pretty much the pretty triple truth. I am sorry that you don't understand subtext, and I will never try to read Wilde with you.

The point of announcing that you are putting a player at L-1 isn't solely for your own sake, it's to make sure that someone doesn't come along and place a vote nonchalantly and hammer him. I find this to be even more troublesome in the RVS, where players are going to be more inclined to place a quick random vote without reading into the thread.

Also, since when is asking for claims on page 2 not normal behaviour? This is my first game in ages, mate. We normally have like seven page games. I realize GOTY is going to last longer, but this won't will it?

I don't think i've ever seen a serious request for a claim in page 2.

Also, why are you such a total asshole?

FOS

I don't think i've been an asshole to you at all. However, my apologies to you if you feel like I was rude to you. Is that FOS in regards to something that I did that you think is scummy, or are you FOSing me based on my "Asshole" behavior?

[saulres]

You claim at L-1 and then you get lynched and die.

What's the point of claiming then, since the role is going to be revealed when they die? The claim is supposed to be a chance for you to get

out

of being killed, if you're a PR or something.

We normally have like seven page games. I realize GOTY is going to last longer, but this won't will it?

Most likely it will; there are significantly more games with more than 7 pages than with less, especially when you look at 13-player games.

Also, why are you such a total asshole?

Where did he do

anything

that could cause you to label him with the term "asshole"?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

^Third scum caught.

[saulres]

How many posts up does your carat point?

And, why?

While you might think the reason is obvious (and here I'm looking at Glork and vijay) I often don't see what others do but can appreciate arguments.