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Post Post #9450 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 12:44 pm

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Post Post #9451 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 1:17 pm

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Post Post #9452 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 1:36 pm

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Post Post #9453 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 3:13 pm

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Is there a list of who is supposed to counter who for top and mid lane? Because at the moment I've been using Teemo to counter Riven and WW to counter Yorick but I want to know if there are better choices.
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Post Post #9454 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 3:20 pm

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If you can't think of who counters whom, you probably shouldn't use that champ as a counter.
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Post Post #9455 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 3:22 pm

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As far as I'm concerned, janna counters every other support in bot ever.

And cho counters every top.
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Post Post #9456 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 4:16 pm

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Like I know that they work. I'm just wondering if there was a champ I'm missing as a counter. Like some wacky thing that beats yorick instead of just going ww and sustaining past him and keeping up in farm.
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Post Post #9457 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 4:59 pm

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Post Post #9458 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 5:07 pm

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Udyr.

Yorick can also beat WW if played right.

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Post Post #9459 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 5:38 pm

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Neruz wrote:Nothing really
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Yorick in lane. Trundle and Warwick seem to do the best against him and Teemo can hold his own if you're careful but any time you see a Yorick up against you whoever is in top lane is going to have a hard time regardless of their choice.


I was looking a couple of days ago and the maths isn't in Trundle's favour, his passive isn't good enough if Yorick gets really aggressive.
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Post Post #9460 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 6:27 pm

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Neruz wrote:Nothing really
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Yorick in lane. Trundle and Warwick seem to do the best against him and Teemo can hold his own if you're careful but any time you see a Yorick up against you whoever is in top lane is going to have a hard time regardless of their choice.


I was looking a couple of days ago and the maths isn't in Trundle's favour, his passive isn't good enough if Yorick gets really aggressive.


Supposidly Trundle wins trades with his Q.
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Post Post #9461 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 6:38 pm

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Post Post #9462 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 6:44 pm

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Post Post #9463 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 7:22 pm

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Post Post #9464 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 8:28 pm

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Shanba wrote:Are you really boasting about playing against a guy who was deliberately feeding?

No, I just found it funny. But thank you all for doing your best to suck the joy out of things.
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Post Post #9465 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 8:35 pm

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Neruz wrote:Nothing really
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Yorick in lane. Trundle and Warwick seem to do the best against him and Teemo can hold his own if you're careful but any time you see a Yorick up against you whoever is in top lane is going to have a hard time regardless of their choice.


Vlad, singed perhaps (but that's a personal preference).

Vlad is really obvious. Post-hextech you don't care about yoricks monsters anymore, you throw blood at them etc. His sustain is at all points probably better then yoricks, and he is ranged.

Singed tends get harrassed a lot anyway, he can't really trade. So why not do that against yorick monsters who love to eat poison and a yorick who has little burst anyway? No, you won't stop yorick, yes, you'll be able to farm and be of more use late then yorick.
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Post Post #9466 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 10:04 pm

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Vlad loses to Yorick in lane, he beats Yorick post level 7, but if the Yorck knows what he's doing the Vlad will get completely shut down early on and be useless. Yorick's sustain is also waaay better than Vlad's.
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Post Post #9467 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 10:49 pm

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Best yorick counter - jungle ganks. One of the easiest bruisers to gank, and since he tends to be winning his lane (hehe) he tends to be pushing his lane.

Things that deal well with Yorick in lane are generally things that like to farm and have large amounts of innate sustain. That's mostly where trundle shines - and its better than that too, because if yorick ever tries to commit to a fight then he gets wrecked by trundle. Trundle's qwr is way too strong for yorick to deal with if he goes in to fight, and he cant zone trundle off farm only using his e, so trundle tends to win the lane. It's a little hairy early on, but it quickly goes trundle's way.

Yorick is also one of the better matchups for Nasus, believe it or not. He expects to get zoned early doors, but against Yorick it's a little better than normal, since he can Q the ghouls for extra q. Its also super easy for him to just farm under tower against a yorick. Essentially the period of time where yorick gets to zone nasus is actually
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Dont put ranged shit like ryze or vlad against him. Ryze vs Yorick is so unbelievably one sided it's just not fair. Poor Ryze...
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Post Post #9468 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 11:36 pm

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Proposition, Ashe and TF as yorick counters?
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Post Post #9469 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 11:40 pm

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Both would get destroyed.
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Post Post #9470 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2012 11:43 pm

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That's a shame. Extra goldz would be awesome.
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Post Post #9471 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2012 1:08 am

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Frozen heart ezreal....


I saw that shit in ranked. Where the hell is it coming from.

Also Yorick is a terrible champion and is impossible to use skill shots on and is also best beat by running +30 ad and tower diving him lvl 1-2
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Post Post #9472 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2012 1:11 am

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It was done by M5 in a scrim vs TSM if I recall right, and now everyone is using it.

I bet AP ez will finally start hitting mainstream now that people are learning how fucking absurd his W is.
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Post Post #9473 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2012 1:20 am

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hitogoroshi wrote:It was done by M5 in a scrim vs TSM if I recall right, and now everyone is using it.

I bet AP ez will finally start hitting mainstream now that people are learning how fucking absurd his W is.

Standard. M5 do shit and people copy it despite them having pretty specific ideas for WHY theyre doing it, whereas random pubbies really have no clue.

Riot said that they were trying to rework Yorick a bit, in particular doing some work on his ghoul AI to make it feel more like you're fighting alongside them. Ideally, if I were reworking Yorick, I'd make the ghouls themselves a more integral part of his kit rather than a secondary extra. Increase his cooldowns, increase the health and duration of ghouls, give you more control over the ghouls movement and he starts feeling more like a champion with a bit more depth than hurrdurr use everything every time it comes off cooldown. The issue really is trying to make a pet class champion without proper multi-unit controls.
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Post Post #9474 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2012 1:29 am

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What they need to fix is his broken ass passive that makes him tankier than singed.
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