TM2012 - Closed Normal(Over!)

[hasdgfas]

Mod, can you start posting VSs at the end of each day so we can see the whole wagon? tanks.

I thought I had done that last time, but apparently I copy/pasted wrong. Sorry, I edited it into the Day 1 lynch post and will try not to fail in the future.


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Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Mastermind of Sin
DeltaWave(1): Captain Murasa

Not Voting: Porochaz, iamausername, GreyICE, PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, DeltaWave, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is June 2nd.

(I think this makes it only 13 days, so apologies)

[Mastermind of Sin]

More UberNinja votes, please.

[Captain Murasa]

If I vote UN, will you guys help me wagon DeltaWave tomorrow?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Probably. Depends on if he's still scummy. It certainly looks possible at this point, though.

[Captain Murasa]

Okey dokey.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: UberNinja

[UberNinja]

If you're town and you lynch me, you deserve to fucking lose.

[Captain Murasa]

Lol AtE.

[UberNinja]

No, just more of a sardonic "fuck you guys, you're shit at this"

But it's tempered with a bit of "Haylen was town and I was wrong about it, so fuck me too"

So yeah no, but nice try

[Mastermind of Sin]

Haylen(7): iamausername, GreyICE, PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, DeltaWave, Glork

DeltaWave(4): jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, CooLDoG, Mastermind of Sin
Glork(1): Haylen
Uberninja(1): Porochaz

I am betting at least 1-2 scum on the Haylen wagon, 0-1 scum on Delta wagon, and 0-1 scum off both wagons. Considering that Haylen and Prozac were the only two off both wagons, I'll just amend that to 2 scum on the Haylen wagon, 1 scum off the Haylen wagon. I'm fairly certain that's a reasonable proposition.

That means 2 of iamausername, GreyICE, PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, and DeltaWave are scum, and 1 of jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, CooLDoG, and Prozac are scum.

I'm willing to let jasonT1981, CooLDoG, and GreyICE pass for now, based on previous evidence of them being probstown. That leaves the following:

2 of iamausername, PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, DeltaWave
1 of Captain Murasa and Prozac

PoE gives us a hell of a good chance to find scum in either group. I think we should take a closer look at these 7 players today and in the upcoming days, because there's a damn good chance it holds our entire scumgroup. We shouldn't forget about the other 3, but they can sit on the backburner for now as far as lynching goes.

More analysis to come, but I especially want to see what Captain Murasa and Prozac have to say about each other. To a lesser extent I'd also like to get opinions from the group of 5 on each other as well.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Unvote

for now, even though I hate to derail this nice UberNinja wagon, but I want to focus on this first rather than railroading someone right out of the gate.

[Mastermind of Sin]

5 players have not checked in since the day started.

Mod: Can you pm them to let them know the thread is open?

[Captain Murasa]

Is there anything you want me to comment about specifically in regards to Porochaz? Ftr I think he's town.

[Slaxx]

Its very possible for two scum to be off the wagon MoS. I highly doubt its Jason or Cooldog though, I agree with you there. I know your join date greatly precedes mine so I can't really use the "take it from someone who has experience" schtick effectively, but I'm still using it here. I don't fall into the "2 on this wagon" trap.

CM: Do you think all three scum are on the lynch wagon or are you still suspicious of Jason (Hint: he's probably town)

[Captain Murasa]

I actually think 1 scum on the wagon. I think there were some scum advocating the Haylen lynch without being on it in the first place. She was a perfect mislynch driven by obnoxious and loud town (*cough*GreyICE*cough*) which meant it was perfect for scum to advocate it without being seen.

I still think Jason is scum though. Jason DeltaWave and UN are my current picks for scum right now.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Wait...you think 1 scum was on the wagon, and you think Jason, Delta, and UN are scum?

[Captain Murasa]

Oh, I forgot Delta was on the wagon. I think his back and forth with Glork must have confused me.

[Captain Murasa]

I think 2 scum on the Haylen wagon then.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Oh, I forgot Delta was on the wagon. I think his back and forth with Glork must have confused me.

How so?

[Captain Murasa]

The back and forth between DeltaWave and Glork must have made me register Delta's vote as on Glork at the time. Especially considering Glork was also voting Delta.

[CooLDoG]

If I vote UN, will you guys help me wagon DeltaWave tomorrow?

yes.

If you're town and you lynch me, you deserve to fucking lose.

Does refute anything against him. His only defense is simply, "If you lynch me, you are an idiot." Doesn't make any logical sense and is scummy as hell. Answer the points that I brought against you.

@mos, you are town and all. I agree with you. But, we must lynch UN today. Don't try to jump off the wagon.

[iamausername]

2 of iamausername, PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, DeltaWave
1 of Captain Murasa and Prozac

May I again direct your attention to this post:

JasonT1981 - probs town (via Glork's case which I agree with)

Unvote, Vote: Captain Murasa

Gonna go with my team's suspicion on this one for now.

Wasn't Glork's reason for clearing jason pretty much the same reason as this:

Rhinox has pointed out that the sequence from 299 to 306, where Captain Murasa spends two hours looking through Glork's past games and reaches this conclusion:

Anyway, about people saying Glork isn't playing to his town meta. I kinda half-agree. He isn't exactly playing to his town meta, but I don't see him playing to his scum meta either. I think he's playing more to his town meta than scum though.

makes Murasa probable town. I'm inclined to agree.

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Why is Jason clear but not Murasa?

Otherwise, I broadly agree with the logic, there's likely two scum in {PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, DeltaWave} and one in {Prozac, MoS}.

Slaxx and Peregrine seem considerably less likely than UberNinja and DeltaWave, and if DeltaWave is scum, MoS is ruled out by Post 421, so Uber/Delta/Prozac? I could buy that. Delta/Prozac especially makes a lot of sense, I think.

Gonna do some more in depth thinking once I've had a chance to reread and consult with my team, but that's the way I'm leaning from memory.

[GreyICE]

My god have some people done a complete 180 today. And that? That does not make me happy. In the least.

MoS: Yesterday he was a lurking, useless sack of shit. Today he's not lurking. Yesterday he did... practically nothing to push his scum reads. I mean literally, he spent about a thousand times more energy on his useless vendetta against me (I get it, you're in love with TSQ, just go to guys part 2) then he did on producing anything resembling actual content, or lynching scum.

CooLDoG: Ended the day voting DeltaWave, with a big long case. Starts day 2... voting UberNinja. Has forgotten about DeltaWave. Que que? Does not compute.

UberNinja is still town, and this wagon is still terrible.

MoS's attempt to lead the town after he spent all of day 1 doing literally nothing are laughable. Still, would his team give him a scum role PM?

So, if we narrow it down to the question marks: CooLDoG, Porochaz, PeregrineV, DeltaWave

Although I admit to... pretty much hating Murasa's last series of posts with a burning passion. He's shoehorning his logic into getting the lynches he wants, not lynching off his logic.

Fine I'll stick him on the possibles list.

CooLDoG - you wrote a whole big case on DeltaWave yesterday, and were very, very adamant about him being scum. Today you open immediately with a UN vote. What happened?

[Captain Murasa]

I try to avoid logic when posting. All it does is make me lose.

Seriously, I went with logic over gut in a 3p LYLO recently and lost. But when I went with gut over logic in another LYLO I won.

[Captain Murasa]

Also a lot of people have done a 180 because Haylen flipped town. Everyone was basing shit off Haylen being scum and one Haylen flipped town everything fell apart.

[GreyICE]

Also a lot of people have done a 180 because Haylen flipped town. Everyone was basing shit off Haylen being scum and one Haylen flipped town everything fell apart.

Why are you making excuses for CooLDoG?

Also if you based everything off Haylen being scum, well...