NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I called Pine scum, and then he replaced out and we waited for 2 weeks for a replacement.

Then Seacore replaced in, and I wanted him to stay alive so I could get a read on him. I determined that the fact his wagon wasn't dissipating was a sign he was town.

I always give replacees a chance to prove themselves.

[Nero Cain]

*nods*

[Maxous]

vote drmyshottyizsik

baffled hes alive.

Ehh, why would be surprised that he is alive?

2. I have read a decent chunk of the game but I get a headache when I try and go back and come up with a case.

On who?

Actually,

unvote, vote: kdowns

I don't think FG wagon is going anywhere..might as well get something going.

kdowns is an okay choice for lynch

[HezLucky]

vote drmyshottyizsik

baffled hes alive.

Ehh, why would be surprised that he is alive?

2. I have read a decent chunk of the game but I get a headache when I try and go back and come up with a case.

On who?

Actually,

unvote, vote: kdowns

I don't think FG wagon is going anywhere..might as well get something going.

kdowns is an okay choice for lynch

An OKAY choice for a lynch? We've provided you with an excellent Junpei wagon (that you are BLATANTLY deflecting, mind you) and all you can do is sit here and vote someone because they are an "OKAY" choice for a lynch? What have you even done this game that suggests you shouldn't be hanged this instant?

[Junpei]

(that you are BLATANTLY deflecting, mind you)

It's not called deflecting, it's called deferring from. Deferring from a wagon is not a scum tell at all on its own.

Everyone notice how Mastin is lurking through the game and people forget about him.

[DeasVail]

Blatantly deflecting the Junpei wagon is fun.

[Code_X]

@ Junpei - care to share the below yet?

Mastin, I have 3 massive walls just on Macro in MY QT, my conclusion is one which would be anti-town to announce now.

[Junpei]

@ Junpei - care to share the below yet?

Mastin, I have 3 massive walls just on Macro in MY QT, my conclusion is one which would be anti-town to announce now.

That was sarcasm to show the absurdity in Mastin's statements. When someone says something which I think is overtly childish, I respond with sarcasm.

[Code_X]

Ah, forgive my stupidity.

[Code_X]

Essentially though at this point we're going to end up with a day like yesterday. One giant big ball-ache.

The longer Junpei stays alive the longer it will happen. The Jun wagon isn't going anywhere whatever happens.

Unvote: Kdowns
Vote: Junpei

[StrangerCoug]

Time to switch. I'm not getting any support for Nero Cain, but there is support for somebody I've suspected since the end of Day 2.

UNVOTE: Nero Cain
VOTE: Junpei

I don't care about the vote count.

[Code_X]

And although I don't think Junpei is the best choice for a lynch, he's probably the only one as no-one else is going get enough support.

Yesterday's vote count sums it up. The Seacore lynch was full of scummy lurking fence-sitting likely scum.
A lot more of the names on the Junpei wagon yesterday felt town to me, or should I say I don't find them as scummy. Mastin aside.

Seacore (11) - Maxous, scooby, The Mini-Librarian, drmyshotgun, kdowns, Junpei, redFF, DeasVail, Kublai Kahn, FakeGod, Psyche
Junpei (8) - mastin2, HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta, OhGodMyLife, Nero Cain, Code_X, StrangerCoug, Benmage

[Junpei]

So town are always right so we should lynch who the town were on YESTERDAY? You're making associative tells on pre-flipped players?!

vote Kdowns

Since people are committed to making me the only wagon.

[Junpei]

It should read: "you're making associative tells on un-flipped players?!"

[Code_X]

You know I'd love to lynch Kdowns today. But, doing it is a waste of time as half the town will run you up again tomorrow and we'll be left with the same problem.

It's not me you need to convince it's them.

[Junpei]

You know I'd love to lynch Kdowns today. But, doing it is a waste of time as half the town will run you up again tomorrow and we'll be left with the same problem.

It's not me you need to convince it's them.

The case on me is quite literally that I was a counter wagon to Seacore. There is zero research which suggests I am scum because of this, but we aren't exactly playing in a game full of college students/graduates so not much I can do there.

Anyway, do you think that after me there won't be another townie who will get run up with a big wagon Day 4? Don't you realize that the statistical probability is high and that if your philosophy is to lynch people who get bigger wagons a lot then you won't go better than random over time? Unless you can prove that scum get bigger wagons two days in a row a lot more than town..

If you're saying I'm a distraction, I'm only a distraction if I am lynched; but until then I am not. If we don't let me get lynched this game, eventually scum will HAVE to kill me. If I don't die till then then not lynching me is a huge success.

[Code_X]

Though I'm pretty sick of this game and I see nothing happening until Jun flips so...

Echoes my opinion.

The case on me is quite literally that I was a counter wagon to Seacore.

Pretty sure it was more than that. Disbelieving Shotty for one.

If we don't let me get lynched this game, eventually scum will HAVE to kill me. If I don't die till then then not lynching me is a huge success.

Scum won't kill you till endgame - then we'll be left with that decision at the most ill-opportune moment. It's a huge success for you maybe not necessarily the town.

[Junpei]

Disbelieving Shotty for one

Which is not a scumtell. Explain the scum motive behind going out of your way to swim against the currents and explain how if I were scum I would think that I could singlehandedly change public opinion about Shotty? Explain why it's unbelievable that I wasn't townie expressing my opinion.

[Code_X]

It was pretty clear he was town. Useless town admittedly.

Yes I guess it makes sense for scum to blend in and agree and then just Night Kill him, though what were you trying to gain by disbelieving the claim?

Anyway, this is all irrelevant. I've said I'd rather vote 6/7 other people but at this point too many of the town are set on lynching you - almost ignoring everyone else. If we don't lynch you today the whole issue will rear it's head tomorrow and the day after and so on. As I say at this point you have to convince LLD, Hez, Mastin etc.

Do you really believe Kdowns is scum? Do you think those on your wagon are scum?

[Junpei]

Junpei (4) - redFF, mastin2, HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta

I think Nero and Mastin are scum. I have suspicion of StrangerCoug. Hez, LLD, and redFF I think are just full of testosterone like most young teenage boys are; I don't have suspicion of them.

I don't have a big opinion on kdowns but I'll get one soon enough. I have no choice though but to put my vote there for the time being. I think you can understand why, at least.

I wasn't trying to gain anything by doubting shotty's claim, I was expressing my opinion. Anyone who knows me knows that I am the last person to call someone confirmed town for something that the mod doesn't announce, regardless of alignment. In fact redFF probably deserves another look later.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry, in what universe am I a young teenage boy?

[Junpei]

I'm sorry, in what universe am I a young teenage boy?

Well you act like one so I just assumed this was the case.

Case. That's a funny word. Reminds of the case on me which doesn't exist.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry, in what universe am I a young teenage boy?

Well you act like one so I just assumed this was the case.

Case. That's a funny word. Reminds of the case on me which doesn't exist.

You know what I find funny? The fact that the evidence against you has been brought forth MULTIPLE TIMES.

And yet, you still try and desperately cling to your "WHAT CASE" defense.

Keep flailing, scum.

[Psyche]

Flailing, I've found through statistical analysis, is more of a rhetorical accusation used by tunnelling players to discredit defenses than it is an actual scumtell.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Flailing, I've found through statistical analysis, is more of a rhetorical accusation used by tunnelling players to discredit defenses than it is an actual scumtell.

You would be what I like to call, wrong.

Flailing is when scum attempt to worm their way out of being lynched, and do a very poor job of it.

There is a definite difference between town defending themselves and scum trying to dodge and avoid accusations (and eventually a lynch).