Open 403 - Donner Party (Game Over)

[Tierce]

Votecount 1.4

izakthegoomba

(5) - scotmany12, Cogito Ergo Sum, Glork, saulres, Chimera

Xalxe

(2) - vijay2vasandani,

Cogito Ergo Sum, Glork,

Fritzler

Fritzler

(2) - Mortontfrh, izakthegoomba,

Chimera,

Guy_Named_Riggs

(1) - Xalxe

Mortontfrh

(1) - Shadoweh

vijay2vasandani

(0) -

saulres

Not voting

(1) - Guy_Named_Riggs

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
The deadline is June 2 at 1:30 AM GMT (DST). Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2012-06-02 01:30:00)

[Xalxe]

HI I SUCK BECAUSE REAL LIFE HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND AND I HAD NO TIME FOR GAMES

READING NOW ETC

[Xalxe]

I would like you to ask: "vanilla or chocolate?"

[irrelevant anecdote about a friend claiming chocolate townie every game]

POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

I'm not as accomplished at VCA as others (like our mod here). I just wanted a discussion starter.

POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

Way back in the beginning of time.

Xalxe. Your questions were anything but scumhunting. I don't think they serve any purpose.

They got discussion happening. Purpose accomplished.

unvote

no need for a quick lynch yet

So you unvoted to make sure Xalxe doesn't get quick lynched?

Only problem with that is your vote was on Fritzler, who had only two votes, so Xalxe is still at L-1, even though your post tried to make it seem like it wasn't.

My RVS vote on you is now a real one.

Decent point is decent. GNR, response?

WHEEEE WAGON

Mission accomplished.

vijay

: Are you aware that was the

third

vote?

CES

: Are you aware that was the

third

vote? Why didn't you say anything besides the vote?

itt Xalxe doesn't count.

But boring? Oh my cult leader, how far you have fallen to be thought of as "boring".

vijay, why did you grow Xalxe's wagon? Feels opportunistic.

Glork, your vote might make some sense in a closed setup, but I don't see what you're aiming for in this game by bringing Xalxe to L-2.

Is this your question? If so, I felt like it. Xalxe's comment reminded me of the time he said people with win-loss statistics have self-esteem issues. I just found it funny and i voted him. However him reacting that way (not being able to count) and 29 make me satisfied with my vote.

Actually I'll ask him this. What exactly did you hope to achieve by asking me and whoever it was if we knew we were the xth vote on you?

I TYPOED OKAY I MEANT FOURTH

FritzWagon is decent right now. Fritz, what was the last game you played?

I'm already confused. This is bad.

Confused is good. That makes you readable. Don't you want to be readable?

Fritzler is clearly town here. (This is a lie.) So do something more useful with your vote?

I'm sorry what? Why did you just contradict?

CES, can we move to izak? Post 70 is the second worst post of the game, and a Xalxe quicklynch no longer seems feasible.

Null on izak from reading other games; he doesn't often come off well D1.

I'M SORRY WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS IZAK QUICKWAGON

Oh my god I'm really going to need to meta Glork aren't I

UNVOTE: until I get answers/a meta on Glork.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

They got discussion happening. Purpose accomplished.

By virtue of being terrible. That obviously wasn't the intent, so how does that relate to the issue at hand?

I'm sorry what? Why did you just contradict?

To obliquely make a point.

Izak didn't look bad last game I played with him.

[Xalxe]

They got discussion happening. Purpose accomplished.

By virtue of being terrible. That obviously wasn't the intent, so how does that relate to the issue at hand?

I'm sorry what? Why did you just contradict?

To obliquely make a point.

Izak didn't look bad last game I played with him.

Uh...I'm sorry, what? It relates to the issue because the question was asked? I feel like I'm not parsing this right.

And that game was?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

The issue is that your questions sucked, which tells us something about you. The fact that some good unintentially came about as a result of your questions does not tell us anything about you.

Double Day Unlimited

[Xalxe]

which tells us something about you.

And that would be?

[Xalxe]

Double Day Unlimited

Read that one, fair point. I'm thinking of others though that may still be ongoing, I'll check.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

which tells us something about you.

And that would be?

It suggests, like scotmany 12 said, that you're not scumhunting.

[Tierce]

Again, mod note, just in case: please do not talk about ongoing games.

[Xalxe]

Again, mod note, just in case: please do not talk about ongoing games.

Yes'm

which tells us something about you.

And that would be?

It suggests, like scotmany 12 said, that you're not scumhunting.

Are you able to scumhunt effectively on Page 1 during RVS?

[Glork]

They got discussion happening. Purpose accomplished.

Somebody vig this guy please.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I see where its coming from when you put it that way, but I'm not putting the wagon at L-1 this early in the day. Too much information will be wasted.

If you're not going to put him at L-1, and you're not going to bother putting pressure on anyone else what exactly are you planning on doing this game?

Are you just going to sit around twiddling your thumbs until someone else puts him at L-1 or are you waiting until someone else provides a reasonable wagon for you to sheep on?

No, but on page 6, I don't see anything to build a case on someone to pressure them

[Mortontfrh]

I see where its coming from when you put it that way, but I'm not putting the wagon at L-1 this early in the day. Too much information will be wasted.

If you're not going to put him at L-1, and you're not going to bother putting pressure on anyone else what exactly are you planning on doing this game?

Are you just going to sit around twiddling your thumbs until someone else puts him at L-1 or are you waiting until someone else provides a reasonable wagon for you to sheep on?

No, but on page 6, I don't see anything to build a case on someone to pressure them

Christ what do you think would happen if everyone had this same mentality?

GNR is probably town; I don't think scum would outright say they have no intentions of scumhunting.

I think Fritzler is still suspicious, especially given how defensive he got with just a tiny bit of pressure however Izak is a much more immediate concern.

Vote: Izakthegoomba

This is an L-1 vote, btw.

[Shadoweh]

I think Fritzer is kind of crazy but not scummy. I don't have a read on Izak. His post looks typical of what people do here so I don't get why it's so bad.

[vijay2vasandani]

Um you do realise I'm playing about 9 other games and some of them are at LyLo? Anyway what questions? I'd go back and read but if somebody could be a dear and repost them I will be eternally grateful. On 1% battery atm XD

PS If you don't have time to play replace out for someone that does. I'm sure Tierce can find someone who won't cry about being in LYLO somewhere else.

Oh I don't have a problem with it. I don't think there's an issue about how much I post. It's just that I'm posting 4 or 5 times in the other game for every time I post here. It's not like I'm lagging behind here. I was just explaining why I posted more in the other games.

I don't understand what the big deal over post 70 is. Is it really that bad to quicklynch him?

I'm pretty sure it was just explained previously.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Are you able to scumhunt effectively on Page 1 during RVS?

Not always effectively, but that's hardly the point, is it?

[izakthegoomba]

Are you able to scumhunt effectively on Page 1 during RVS?

Not always effectively, but that's hardly the point, is it?

Uh, yes. It is.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

No, it's not. Asking dumb questions isn't scumhunting, ineffective or otherwise.

[izakthegoomba]

There is no point to scumhunting if you don't intend to catch scum. Unless you're scum hoping that scumhunting will make you look like town, of course.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

The intent is there; it just doesn't always work due to external factors?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

The intent is there; it just doesn't always work due to external factors?

Such as?

[saulres]

Sorry for my absence, both work and RL are slamming me. I should be back up to normal participation levels by Thursday at the latest.

[Glork]

I have less of an issue with Xalxe asking terrible, mostly useless questions (of course they were aware of it), and more of an issue with his unjustifiable sense of accomplishment. Xalxe literally had nothing to do with why four people voted for him. He happened to be the first RVS wagon. So why does he want us to think he "accomplished" something 20 posts into the game?

[Mortontfrh]

There is no point to scumhunting if you don't intend to catch scum. Unless you're scum hoping that scumhunting will make you look like town, of course.

Yeah instead of scumhunting we should just sit around and give soft reads until other people take the lead for us. Especially the kind of soft reads that come from scum just trying to make look like town.