TM2012: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.29

Amrun (4) - Johhog, Regfan, Bub Bidderskins, Llamarble
Thestatusquo (4) - singersigner, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zachrulez, Amrun
Cogito Ergo Sum (2) - Benmage, Thestatusquo
Bub Bidderskins (1) - Captain Falcon
Johhog (1) - SocioPath

Not Voting (1) - Matias

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, May 21, 2012, at 12:00 AM EDT (UTC-4).

Mod Notes

Amrun is V/LA until May 21.

[Captain Falcon]

By the way, if it isn't obvious, I am Oversoul.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Amrun

I definitely will not be able to make a vote around the time of deadline so this is going to stay.

Amrun is

L-2

.

[Regfan]

I can also not comment on anything with regards to your book comment without potentially getting a point infraction. I'm sorry I even brought it up.

I worked it out now that I know your main. Also I feel like an idiot for not working out you were Oversoul earlier. I had thought you might have been LlamaFluff.

[Matias]

I both think Shea is town at this point AND the wagon on him is opportunistic.

[Regfan]

I both think Shea is town at this point AND the wagon on him is opportunistic.

Ok. Why do you think he's town?

Also if you want/don't mind an Amrun lynch and hate a TSQ one then you should be placing your vote down on Amrun now. Waiting for the hammer to vote is dumb.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I had thought you might have been LlamaFluff.

I'm going to guess you haven't played much with LlamaFluff then?

Matias, let me repeat my suggestion that you sheep The Fonz. Being dead I'm sure he has the time to look over this game for you.

[Regfan]

Only one or twice.

[Captain Falcon]

Ya, that Llamafluff comparison surprised me. He is a good player so I will take that as a compliment.

[Benmage]

oooph prodded again D3

Uhmm, yeah need to read here.

[Benmage]

Who wants to bullet the case on Amrun?

Who wants to bullet the case on TSQ?

[Regfan]

I'll bullet the case on Amrun:

- Her scum-reads up until it was pointed out (2ish RL days ago) consisted of Haddock and only Haddock, she hadn't mentioned him since her vote on him. The severe lack of scum-reads given her high activity doesn't bode well whatsoever, especially considering the hardest thing for scum to fake is valid scum-reads.

- Her votes this game have gone from Haddock->Johhog->TSQ. She earlier (Much earlier) stated Haddock and Johhog were weaker players making her votes on them extremely suspect and the vote on TSQ is primarily survivalistic. Furthermore her reasoning behind voting Johhog was atrocious, especially since he admitted she read my meta on him and found it valid afterwards, then progressed to asking him if he prefers town/scum and which he's better at which is exactly what my meta on him was about and included links to him having already answered that question.

There's a lot more but I don't have any more time and won't be on before deadline. Please vote Amrun though.

[SocioPath]

UNFORTUNATELY I am going to have to do this earlier than I would have liked, but ALAS this is the last chance I have to vote.

Unvote
Vote: Amrun

I don't care about anyone's cases are theories on Amrun, those are all fine and dandy, but here is the REAL KICKER:

I have no read on Socio because he's making it fucking impossible, and I don't like that.

THIS GOLDEN BLOSSOM RIGHT HERE.
It is one of those hidden tells that I have and love so much.
Because only scum have this line of thought.

I'll bring a case in point from another past game to limit my need of explaining all this but it goes A LITTLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS:

SocioPath - Leaning scummish because he seems to be playing in a way that makes him intentionally difficult to read.

Scummish...because you cant easily read me as scum or town?
Makes sense.
Maybe I forgot what null means.

Town players should be playing in a way where they're easily read. You are not doing this. Thus, scummish.

Scum players should be playing in a way where they're easily read as town.

WORDING MAY HAVE CHANGED SLIGHTLY BIT THE SWEET SUCCULENT CENTER IS STILL THERE WITH THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

AMRUN

Get your ass in here and help me get shea lynched.

[Johhog]

This (and the following two hours or so) are the last chances I have to check in before the deadline. I'll not comment on anything now though.

Also,

Mod: I'll be completely without access between May 22 and May 24. Sorry.

[Matias]

I both think Shea is town at this point AND the wagon on him is opportunistic.

Ok. Why do you think he's town?

Also if you want/don't mind an Amrun lynch and hate a TSQ one then you should be placing your vote down on Amrun now. Waiting for the hammer to vote is dumb.

Because the only thing people have on him is a late start. He's explained himself, scumhunted (though at a lesser degree) and just tried to get into the swing of things, but people keep throwing strawmans at him.

Amrun has too many holes in her cases, so I'm fine with her lynch. Certainly not as ideal as Johhog but this wagon is full speed and it's the only other one I'm okay with.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

[Matias]

If you have anything to say, say it now. I don't want CES yelling about Shea anymore because that's a dumb fucking wagon.

[Matias]

Also, Benmage, should all parties be alive tomorrow, I want your thoughts like first thing. It's weird that you'd just show up at game start and then day end like this.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He's explained himself, scumhunted (though at a lesser degree) and just tried to get into the swing of things

Are you reading the same game as me? Because pretty much all I've seen from him is "your vote is illegitimate" type bullshit.

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.30

Amrun (7) - Johhog, Regfan, Bub Bidderskins, Llamarble, Captain Falcon, SocioPath, Matias

Thestatusquo (4) - singersigner, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zachrulez, Amrun
Cogito Ergo Sum (2) - Benmage, Thestatusquo

Not Voting (0)

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, May 21, 2012, at 12:00 AM EDT (UTC-4).[/area]

Mod Notes

Amrun is V/LA until May 21.
Johhog is V/LA from May 22 to May 24.

[Equinox]

— Bar in Sicily. Afternoon.

The buzz inside the bar grew louder and louder as the day drew to a close. The town as a whole were still split on who they wanted to lynch, and the disagreement only served to make everyone more argumentative and insistent. Amrun, however, had already departed, having gone to the restroom. She turned on the tap with a squeak and splashed the cold water on her face, letting the sensation seep into her head and clear her mind. Arguing all day with these people had left her feeling drained. Despite her best efforts, she had let them inside her head after all, and she found that she wasn't quite sure of what to think of them when there was so much discord among their little group. However, of one thing she was sure: She had things in which she strongly believed, and she would fight with all she had for them. Everything else would come afterward.

With a resounding bang, the door slammed into the adjacent wall. Amrun turned around to see the cause, and she was met by stares. They were familiar stares; after all, hadn't she been looking into them all day, trying to persuade them to her ways? Still, she couldn't deny the strong sense of danger she felt from them. Besides, there was only one reason why a group this big would come fetch her. She saw the door, still open behind them, and made for freedom, but she was not quick enough. Seven of her once friendly neighbors closed in on her, and soon enough the rope was around her neck. Above the din of the cheering around her, she could hear voices calling her name.

Amrun? Amrun? Amrun!

Amrun wondered how many voices she could possibly hear in her head. She was losing count already...

Amrun,

townie

, was lynched on Day 1!

Night 1 begins now. The deadline is Tuesday, May 22, 2012, at 7:06 PM EDT (UTC-4).

[Equinox]

— Alley in Sicily. Midnight.

Regfan stumbled into the narrow path, a flask in his hand. Wherever he was, he neither knew nor cared. If the mafia wanted to kill him, they would find him regardless of whether he was tucked safely in his bed or wandering about the streets in the middle of the night. As he made his way down the alley, he could make out the vague outlines of various dancing objects moving this way and that. He tried to dodge them as best as he could, sometimes knocking things over in his attempts, until he came upon a large pile of trash off to his right. The pile was a large one, and, to celebrate, he paused and took a swig of drink.

Atop the pile stood a little white cat figurine sporting what looked like a tiny teal-colored beanie. The cat's tail was a long, elegant one, pointing skyward past its head. When Regfan picked up the figure, he thought he saw a silhouette of a large upright middle finger on the wall. He shook his head and dropped the cat back onto the pile; the finger was gone. He stepped forward, and the street crashed into the side of his head. He felt the pain of his fall consume him, but he still pushed himself back up and leaned against the wall, sighing. The cat fell onto Regfan's flask, spilling his drink into the street, but by now there was no one alive in the alley to miss it.

Regfan,

townie

, was killed on Night 1!

Day 2 begins now.

Vote Count 2.00

Not Voting (11) - Benmage, Bub Bidderskins, Captain Falcon, Cogito Ergo Sum, Johhog, Llamarble, Matias, singersigner, SocioPath, Thestatusquo, Zachrulez

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

The deadline is Sunday, June 3, 2012, at 7:08 PM EDT (UTC-4).

[Thestatusquo]

Hey, I've read. I owe you guys some serious analysis, and that will happen before today (as in, this real life day, not the mafia day) is out.

Sorry about my work life being terrible

[Matias]

Benmage, your first post better be what I asked for.

[Captain Falcon]

Ok. I was not expecting Regfan to die considering his major push for Amrun with relatively minor suspects in Marble and TSQ... Since this is the super smart analysis club , I am going to ask everyone, what are the chances that every team has only gotten 1 scum role? What are the chances that team has gotten no scum role? What are the chances that a team got 2 scum roles? These questions aren't really pertinent to any game in particular, but I consider you guys to be the best able to answer it and it could be helpful down the road...

Socio, now that you have lived past Day 1, do you have any other input?

VOTE: Llmarble

Marble, can you clarify the comments your teammates made in 580? Specifically Grey's comments about "not liking" people like Singer's 407?

Also, please explain your Bub townread.

[Benmage]

It isnt.