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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:36 pm

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FuDuzn wrote:I thought Elmo was the scummiest of them all, I am glad I didn't have a vig power. You really thought Glork was scum though? He was at the top of my town list.


His comment he made about DDD and mike really rubbed me wrong. His argument with the hydra and LDD was terrible stuff in my view. He didn't come off as obvious town.
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:37 pm

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Glork wrote:yep, totes predicted/assumed some neighbrhood hot sauce, but what I did NOT predict was that it came from drafted players.

to me, this makes the wagon/lynch a bit less interesting so I'd be willing to fry Druid's taco instead.

mikehart is obv frustrated, and claiming player names was an extremely retarded idea, but whether it's frustrated town or scum isnt so black and white

wanna hear from disco master ddd himself first, then i'll decide whether (and where) to move my vooooote.


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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:40 pm

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farside22 wrote:Glork and LLD was bad. Glork and the hydra made glork on my scum list.

Disagree about Glork/LLD being bad. Sure, more information was claimed than necessary, but LLD was cleared in my book by the end of it, and the existence of a mini-LLD wagon was the perfect bait to catch Neroscum trying to save mikehart.

As for me/ODM, meh. It was pretty clear at the end of the day that I didnt' want ODM lynched, but that was a better option than No-Lynch, which should never ever ever EVER happen D1 (and is exactly why I came out of the gates wanting LLD dead D2).

FWIW, I *did* predict the neighborhood, literally the instant DDD said his immediate mikehart vote was not serious. Sorry that I was right before anyone else? I'm not sure how on earth that makes me scummy, farside.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:41 pm

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To be fair, I was blinded by hydra-hate as well. But I could see how Glork could be iffy in your eyes after that, didn't jump out at me quite as much though.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:45 pm

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Still not seeing how "undecided on mikehart" is a bad thing. Glork is undecided on shit all the time. :/
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:48 pm

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PS, I am firmly of the opinion that neighbors are EXTREMELY overused in today's meta. They serve relatively little constructive purpose, lead to Outguess-The-Mod shenanigans, and are generally boring. Of the four games I've played since I got back, three of them have had neighborhoods (4/5 if you count the defunct Muppet Mafia). Why does every mod feel the need to stick a neighborhood in their games, just for the sake of having one? And why did this one have a neighborhood + a neighborizer? Ugh.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:49 pm

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Like, when I can lookat someone starting D1 with a vote saying "this is a serious vote" and immediately conclude neighborhood on PAGE FUCKING ONE, you know that they're overdone.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:50 pm

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FuDuzn wrote:I thought Elmo was the scummiest of them all, I am glad I didn't have a vig power. You really thought Glork was scum though? He was at the top of my town list.


His comment he made about DDD and mike really rubbed me wrong. His argument with the hydra and LDD was terrible stuff in my view. He didn't come off as obvious town.

Somehow I play scummy as town >_>
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:50 pm

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Glork wrote:
farside22 wrote:Glork and LLD was bad. Glork and the hydra made glork on my scum list.

Disagree about Glork/LLD being bad. Sure, more information was claimed than necessary, but LLD was cleared in my book by the end of it, and the existence of a mini-LLD wagon was the perfect bait to catch Neroscum trying to save mikehart.

As for me/ODM, meh. It was pretty clear at the end of the day that I didnt' want ODM lynched, but that was a better option than No-Lynch, which should never ever ever EVER happen D1 (and is exactly why I came out of the gates wanting LLD dead D2).

FWIW, I *did* predict the neighborhood, literally the instant DDD said his immediate mikehart vote was not serious. Sorry that I was right before anyone else? I'm not sure how on earth that makes me scummy, farside.


LLD was playing badly (notorious for actions as town more then scum these days). She didn't like either wagon, what was so scummy about her....????

As for your comment about the neighborhood it just came off as crap. In my view if mikeheart is scum (which he was) only his scum buddies would be aware he was neighbor with DDD.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 2:53 pm

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farside22 wrote:In my view if mikeheart is scum (which he was) only his scum buddies would be aware he was neighbor with DDD.
So because of my history of being an excellent mafia player, the general public holds me to a ridiculously high standard of analytical and deductive power, but when I exhibit said talents by drawing a correct conclusion before any other protown players do, I'm scummy for it?


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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 3:31 pm

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I decided to put a neighborhood and a neighborizer in this game precisely because there was no possible "outguess the mod" to go along with it. IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL TOWN? ALL SCUM? ONE SCUM ONE TOWN?

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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 3:32 pm

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I realize that, but I maintain that neighborhoods are horribly overutilized, when they're so common that I could have picked out the DDD/mikehart neighborhood on Page 1 of my read, that's bad.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 4:07 pm

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EBWOP: To be clear, this isn't a lamentation of your game so much as general site meta. I don't understand why mods are so infatuated with neighborhoods.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 4:58 pm

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I think they can be good tools - but perhaps overused.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 11:51 pm

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Good game, Amrun, thanks for modding. I thought it was a great concept and played out pretty well. I probably got too involved with figuring out whether my players could do anything useful in the end and my reads were terrible. I thought Spyrex, Glork and DDD all did a good job and town generally stayed on top of the game. It didn't seem like scum were ever really that far from suspicion.
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 2:42 am

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Glork wrote:
farside22 wrote:In my view if mikeheart is scum (which he was) only his scum buddies would be aware he was neighbor with DDD.
So because of my history of being an excellent mafia player, the general public holds me to a ridiculously high standard of analytical and deductive power, but when I exhibit said talents by drawing a correct conclusion before any other protown players do, I'm scummy for it?


:/ :/ :/ :/ :/



You may not realize this just yet. But it seems I was the only person to feel this way and I was not in the game. :nerd:
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:24 am

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farside22 wrote:
Glork wrote:
farside22 wrote:Glork and LLD was bad. Glork and the hydra made glork on my scum list.

Disagree about Glork/LLD being bad. Sure, more information was claimed than necessary, but LLD was cleared in my book by the end of it, and the existence of a mini-LLD wagon was the perfect bait to catch Neroscum trying to save mikehart.

As for me/ODM, meh. It was pretty clear at the end of the day that I didnt' want ODM lynched, but that was a better option than No-Lynch, which should never ever ever EVER happen D1 (and is exactly why I came out of the gates wanting LLD dead D2).

FWIW, I *did* predict the neighborhood, literally the instant DDD said his immediate mikehart vote was not serious. Sorry that I was right before anyone else? I'm not sure how on earth that makes me scummy, farside.


LLD was playing badly (notorious for actions as town more then scum these days). She didn't like either wagon, what was so scummy about her....????

As for your comment about the neighborhood it just came off as crap. In my view if mikeheart is scum (which he was) only his scum buddies would be aware he was neighbor with DDD.


Yeah ok, you can come in and analyze the game as much as you want. Tell us your reads and how you would have played the game, that's fine.

And I'll freely admit I didn't play a good game, mostly because I was just frustrated with this game from the first second of it.

But you can keep your comments about my notoriety and my play to yourself. And if you can't keep my name out of your mouth in this sense, when coming into a game you didn't even play, then you shouldn't be commenting at all.

So keep your comments and opinions strictly to this game, thank you.

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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:29 am

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In the meantime, you can look at my cute Sonacat avvy.

ISN'T IT CUTE~?

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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:29 am

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No.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:30 am

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Elmo TeH AzN wrote:No.


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I think it's cute!
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:32 am

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Oh, and for anyone doing this again, the 24 hour time limit thing to make the auction close was a mistake. It was originally intended to keep the bidding active at all times, but that didn't work. So I'd skip that or make it 48 at the least, if you were to use this system again.
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It seems everyone has a type of that avy >_>
I did enjoy when you were using Taokaka because that character is funny and such
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:36 am

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Elmo TeH AzN wrote:

It seems everyone has a type of that avy >_>
I did enjoy when you were using Taokaka because that character is funny and such


I might go back to Tao in a little bit.

Sonacat is just cute ^_^
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2012 5:52 am

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Great game Amrun! Thanks for modding it!

I agree with the whole UT=priest=town, although I shouldn't have, considering the SpryeX GF thing.
UT would have been very low on my suspect list.

I liked the extra cash. Since I didn't really think Big-Name Players=Power Roles, I went for quantity.

I also liked how the football players could interact with the mafia players or the football players. It adds another dimension to the game.
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