D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[LordChronos]

the point I brought up against nexus is solid imo, why is it being ignored?

this is the second day I tried to get discussion going about association tells. Is there a good reason the scumflips aren't getting any attention?

oh I'm just being hard headed. Shmugen has said so many stupid/derpy things that I have a very hard time beliving he's town. Ditto for Hascows lack of scumhunting. WC is still scum but I dunno why he's not lynched yet. And BB needs to hang me thinks. So maybe I'm wrong about those four. *shrugz*

but 4nx is right here so if there's support I'll switch over.

Stupid/derpy =/= scummy. You should know that. There is a depressing lack of anyone doing anything in the game right now.

So, Briz is now at L-2, with both the latest votes coming with no reasons and very very little mention of the slot all game. Not sure if that indicates scum piling on for a mislynch or if the lack of a strong counterwagon to Briz indicates he is scum. Cow wagon has been strongest besides Briz, perhaps Briz is a counterwagon to Cow? In that case, look at Cow/BB/Sean for scum. (Is two two man scum teams reasonable for a 20 man game? Or should it be 3/3/14? Don't play enough larger games to know.)

Seanald is in general being trollish, lurky, and useless.

No one really stands out as being solidly pro-town right now ignoring Slan.

Slan is conf-town, Nero is probably 2nd most town. Sean/Shumgen/Lucky/Nexus are all being dumb/anti-town/useless/lurky. BB is scummy, Sean is scummy. Need to look at Briz and cow more.

[hasdgfas]

I'd

much

rather lynch Sean than Briz.

[brizingre1]

*Sigh* I'll claim at L-1

And ladies and gentlemen, welcome Seanald the new Drmyshotgun!
I'd definitely be on for his lynch/blaster if hasdgfas lynch can't happen.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seanald

Join me cow.

[Nero Cain]

the point I brought up against nexus is solid imo, why is it being ignored?

this is the second day I tried to get discussion going about association tells. Is there a good reason the scumflips aren't getting any attention?

oh I'm just being hard headed. Shmugen has said so many stupid/derpy things that I have a very hard time beliving he's town. Ditto for Hascows lack of scumhunting. WC is still scum but I dunno why he's not lynched yet. And BB needs to hang me thinks. So maybe I'm wrong about those four. *shrugz*

but 4nx is right here so if there's support I'll switch over.

Stupid/derpy =/= scummy. You should know that.

I agree but its hard to tell the difference (atleast me anyways) especially when newbies/alts try to play like VIs.

I had a pretty big null/slight town read on Andy but Sean hasn't filled me with confidence and his vote on Briz is terrible.

[Slandaar]

Andrius never did anything he wrote walls that did nothing

[LordChronos]

two attempts at derailing a nexus wagon:this is still very much valid imo

unvote, vote: Nexus

That would be more valid info if Nexus had ever actually had a wagon on him Day 1. (Post crash, haven't looked pre crash at all).

VCs

VC 1.

WrathChild- Ooba, NeroCain, 4nxi3ty, MagnaofIllusion(L-7)
PeregrineV- WrathChild, BBmolla, hasdgfas, brinzingre1 (L-7)
BBmolla- Kdub (L-10)
ooba- splitfarvle (L-10)
Slandaar- shmugen, Shadow Dancer, Sword_of_omens, Nexus, Andrius (L-6)
splitfarvle- (L-10)
Nexus- Slandaar (L-10)
MagnaofIllusion- syndromeofadown (L-10)
hasdgfas- PeregrineV (L-10)

VC 2.

WrathChild- Ooba(L-10)
PeregrineV- WrathChild, BBmolla, hasdgfas, brinzingre1, splitfarvle , Shadow Dancer, Kdub, MagnaofIllusion, Shmugen, Iecerint, NeroCain(Lynched)
hasdgfas-syndromeofadown (L-10)
Nexus- 4nxi3ty (L-10)
drmyshotgun- Slandaar (L- 10)
Andrius- PeregrineV (L-10)

VC 3.

WrathChild- NeroCain (L-8)
BBmolla- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)
MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle (L-6)
Nexus- Iecerint, shmugen, BBmolla, Brizingre1 (L-5)
drmyshotgun- Slandaar (L-8)
Iecerint- swordofomens (L-8)
swordofomens- 4nxi3ty (L-8)
splitfarvle- MagnaofIllusion (L-8)

VC 4.

MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, shmugen, NeroCain (L-3)
Nexus- Iecerint, Brizingre1 (L-7)
shmugen- Nexus, MagnaofIllusion, 4nxi3ty, BBmolla (L-5)

VC 5.

BBmolla- Kdub, hasdgfas (L-7)
MagnaofIllusion- WrathChild, drmyshotgun, splitfarvle, Slandaar, NeroCain, Iecerint (L-3)
Nexus- Brizingre1 (L-8)
shmugen- Nexus, MagnaofIllusion, BBmolla (L-6)
Iecerint- 4nxi3ty (L-8)

VC 6.

BBmolla- hasdgfas (L-8)
MagnaofIllusion- Iecerint (L-8)
shmugen- Nexus (L-8)
Iecerint- Shmugen, MagnaofIllusion, 4nxi3ty, NeroCain, Seanald, Slandaar, BBmolla, Tammy (Lynched)
4nxi3ty - WrathChild (L-8)
hasdgfas- brinzingre1, splitfarvle(L-7)

Analysis

Major Wagons –

Slandaar Day 1 – shmugen, lucky, seanald slots, one known scum. (VC1)
PeregrineV Day 1 – WC, BB on basically whole time. Mostly ignoring those who jumped on after 48 hour deadline extension, since he was the only one close to lynch. (VC 2)
Magna Day 2 - Lots of confirmed town on this wagon. Notable exception is WC, followed by shmugen, who gets off once it hits L-3. (VC 4/5)
Iec Day 2 – Shmugen on Iec post Magna, 4nx and Nero on as well. Again lots jump on right before deadline to get a lynch in. (VC 6)

VC 3 also makes me think Nexus is likely to be town. At this point, we have many many confirmed town players scattered on non major wagons, while the Nexus wagon is comprised of scummy people.

Associations (or lack thereof) with known scum

BBMolla – Basically no mention of either of the scum except to comment on them after they die.
WC – Calls ooba scummy for the content of his posts, but never does anything more than that, preferring to go after Peregrine for fluff posting. Basically doesn’t mention SD.
Seanald/Andrius – Calls SD town, shares views with him, questions people who attack him. Not much to do with ooba.
Briz – places ooba as #1 town, SD in middle, defends ooba, no mention of SD
Ooba – Attacks WC/BB, but it’s hard to draw anything from that since they were in no danger of being lynched.

Conclusions

I can see either Briz or WC as scum partners with ooba. Sean/BB are scummy, more likely to be scum with SD.

Nero/Nexus/Slan are town. Lucky/cow/4nx are null. Shmugen's claim makes me inclined to say he is probably town, but he has been very anti-town if so.

I will support a lynch on any of those four today, preferably Seanald or BB.

[Luckyjt]

@Lord How am I being dumb? I can understand a little lurky and useless, but hey I joined the game and gave some of my thoughts on what I saw to some extent. I havnt finished reading because I got a little busy and thus the lurkiness lately. Also can you look into Briz yourself and say what you think about him in this game. Please do this ASAP please.

[Shmugen]

Sean/Shumgen/Lucky/Nexus are all being dumb/anti-town/useless/lurky.

I say, I say, son, I resemble that remark! The only anti-town thing I've done was not announce that I was hated the second I replaced in, and I didn't know it was anti-town at the time. Lucky's doing alright-ish, though you're correct on the other two.

[LordChronos]

Sean/Shumgen/Lucky/Nexus are all being dumb/anti-town/useless/lurky.

I say, I say, son, I resemble that remark! The only anti-town thing I've done was not announce that I was hated the second I replaced in, and I didn't know it was anti-town at the time. Lucky's doing alright-ish, though you're correct on the other two.

Watching yourself counts as anti-town too.

[Shmugen]

If you say so. It made sense at the time, still makes sense to me, and it is my first time as watcher.

[LordChronos]

So what, you were going to watch yourself in the hope that scum and doc targeted you and then go, "Hey guys, here's a possible scum and a possible doc. Scum, good job using me to out the doc." Color me unimpressed.

[Shmugen]

I was working on a plan to out one and not the other, but past that, yes, that was the plan.

[Seanald]

blah blah blah, more of the same arguement about shmugen, All i hear is suscpicion shit about him but no one acually votes him. He's town you all know it. He just hasn't played exceptionaly well not that I am one to talk. If you care about what shmugen does, then give him someone to watch the next night, force him to do what you want. (yes he can lie, but you'll know hes lieing by the comments he makes the next day duhhhhhh)

[Nero Cain]

no. Shumgen claiming to have self targeted could mean he's lying [and even if he's a watcher it doesn't mean its town] but no, we aren't going to be targeting the watcher b/c then scum would know were he's going. [amusing he's a town watcher]

[Slandaar]

Briz + Ooba = Team

Also; 2 teams of 3 whoever asked imo.

[4nxi3ty]

two attempts at derailing a nexus wagon:this is still very much valid imo

unvote, vote: Nexus

That would be more valid info if Nexus had ever actually had a wagon on him Day 1. (Post crash, haven't looked pre crash at all).

not really. both those posts still shows, regardless of how many votes were present, he didn't want a wagon forming on nexus. And it would call more attention if he were to derail a wagon after it had formed.

seanald's vote makes me more comfortable about a seanlynch and less so about a brizlynch.

[brizingre1]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seanald

Join me cow.

You seem to be flipflopping a lot here, who do you actually think is scum?

@DeathNote: When is the deadline for today?

Cow or Seanald, we need to lynch one of them today.

And if we're relatively close to the deadline, I'll claim, don't want a 'heroic' last minute lynch on me.

[4nxi3ty]

no nexus lynch?

[brizingre1]

no nexus lynch?

Wait, Nexus is still playing?

If so, I'd definitely support his lynch too.

[4nxi3ty]

wait a sec... you haven't been reading my post these last couple of days? ^.^

[Slandaar]

(briz is scum)

[DeathNote]

Vote Count

BBmolla

- hasdgfas, LordChronos (L-5)

4nxi3ty

- WrathChild, (L-6)

hasdgfas

- brizingre1, NeroCain (L-5)

Brizingre1

- shmugen, Luckyjt, Slandaar, Seanald (L-3)

Nexus

- 4nxi3ty (L-6)

Seanald

- BBmolla (L-6)

With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch

~Deadline is still a week away but it has been shortened to two weeks from here on out.~

[Nexus]

Vote: Briz

you try to hard briz and your fucking annoying lollololol

blah blah blah, more of the same arguement about shmugen, All i hear is suscpicion shit about him but no one acually votes him. He's town you all know it. He just hasn't played exceptionaly well not that I am one to talk. If you care about what shmugen does, then give him someone to watch the next night, force him to do what you want. (yes he can lie, but you'll know hes lieing by the comments he makes the next day duhhhhhh)

I agree on lucky

Then wtf is your point lucky? Who cares then if he is playing differently.

Yeah BB, you sound like a joke lol.

Vote: Iecerint

Boom prod dodge lololol everyone shit on my face yeeeaaah...

He trollin'?

[Seanald]

way to point out the obvious, you are awarded 0 town cred points, you have successfully faked doing work of any kind.