Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[Parama]

so yos is scum guys
just sayin'

PAST ME AGREES!

I will totally settle for a Yos lynch. Only one I'll consider aside from Hiraki.

[kanyeknowsbest]

you think hes lying about being a vig?

[Hiraki]

Yos isn't scum Parama.

how about you just assume i'm town for a moment

and listen to me

fgt

[Yosarian2]

so yos is scum guys
just sayin'

PAST ME AGREES!

I will totally settle for a Yos lynch. Only one I'll consider aside from Hiraki.

Explain how this makes any kind of sense at all, considering both my vig claim and the fact that Hiraki had night information that partly confirmed it.

Also, it's pretty iffy for you to say that with no explanation in response to a POE I make that has you listed as one of my top 3 scum suspects. Your Hiraki vote is pretty weak as well.

You know, we could just lynch Parama today.

[kanyeknowsbest]

i would not be opposed.

[shos]

Yos, you keep ignoring my case on Hiraki with the basis of 'his vision' doesn't make sense as scum.


for the tenth time, his vision did not give town any valuable info. it happened in a completely random time in the game, was very controversial with that tricolor thing & the mod's edit. A vision like that is so easily made up, especially when it doesn't actually say anything. the 'confirmation' about your claim - was it even questioned? was it needed? did it help anyone?

[Yosarian2]

i would not be opposed.

Ok.

unvote

vote:Parama

[kanyeknowsbest]

unvote vote parama

youre still on the hook for nameclaiming furc.

[Yosarian2]

Yos, you keep ignoring my case on Hiraki with the basis of 'his vision' doesn't make sense as scum.


for the tenth time, his vision did not give town any valuable info. it happened in a completely random time in the game, was very controversial with that tricolor thing & the mod's edit. A vision like that is so easily made up, especially when it doesn't actually say anything. the 'confirmation' about your claim - was it even questioned? was it needed? did it help anyone?

You think he just totally invented it out of thin air? Why? How?

I'm not totally ruling it out, but:

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

I got a vision. Three visions.

Apparently one of the scum's flavor name, so I can deduce this vision, is named Martin.

I'll paraphrase the entire PM for investigation though, for later days.

So, I decided to go check out Elmo's crimescene some more.

I inspect the glass and find a medallion. Suddenly, because I picked up the medallion, I receive three visions.

The murderer had this medallion before, as he dropped it after he committed the murder. A vision of a tricolor flag(white isn't a color bitches) And finally, a man cutting his cape and muttering the word Martin.

These visions then end, oddly. I am left to ponder on them.

The odds that a random scum would just come out with a claim like that out of the blue based on nothing seem pretty low. Have you ever seen scum do that? If he was going to fake a role, why would he fake this? Why not claim something more likely to keep him alive, like a useful night ability? Also, this post has this whole "clumsily/weirdly worded" property that I associate with someone who reads a mod message they don't quite understand but they need to paraphrase it/change enough words so they don't get modkilled.

We should probably wait and see ; he's not confirmed town, but I don't think it's likely he's lying here.

Hiraki: You say you "decided" to look at the crime scene. Was this an actual decision you had, or was that line part of the vision?

[Vi]

Hiraki being scum is independent of whether he made up his claim, since it's very unlikely that he fabricated it.

Parama limiting himself to Furcosarian2 is stupid but I can't fault the sentiment.

[shos]

why is it so 'out of the blue'? he was being attacked with very specific accusations. note that he was not voted yet; so he had no reason to claim a role. instead he invented some random shit that really holds no water. his claim has nothing to do with his role; therefore it doesn't limit him about anything. it *looks* like it confirms info or stuff, but in fact, what did he say? he finds a medallion - mod already said a medallion was found in the crimescene. the murderer has had that medallion earlier? who gives a shit. a tricolor flag? doesn't help us at all; with the extra about white being a color or not - completely invented it. he said it himself. and then what - a random useless sentence.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki: You say you "decided" to look at the crime scene. Was this an actual decision you had, or was that line part of the vision?

Part of the vision.

I don't think Parama is scum

just playing bad town this game

[Yosarian2]

Hiraki being scum is independent of whether he made up his claim, since it's very unlikely that he fabricated it.

So you think he's likely to be a scum flavor coroner who didn't know it? Really?

[Hiraki]

I think he's saying that if I'm scum, it has to be from in-game material and that I would get the visions.

however, how could I get these visions as scum?

[Yosarian2]

why is it so 'out of the blue'? he was being attacked with very specific accusations. note that he was not voted yet; so he had no reason to claim a role. instead he invented some random shit that really holds no water. his claim has nothing to do with his role; therefore it doesn't limit him about anything. it *looks* like it confirms info or stuff, but in fact, what did he say? he finds a medallion - mod already said a medallion was found in the crimescene. the murderer has had that medallion earlier? who gives a shit. a tricolor flag? doesn't help us at all; with the extra about white being a color or not - completely invented it. he said it himself. and then what - a random useless sentence.

shos: there is just no way I'm going to believe that he invented stuff that had layers of meaning that he did not understand (the French flag, for example, which he did not recognize), that apparently referenced information that had not been claimed yet (my own role name). The claim is real.

So, assume that we're not lynching either Hiraki today. We've got very little time to lynch someone else, and a no-lynch would just kill what's left of our momentum, so who would your second choice for a lynch be?

We need to stop screwing around and put together a lynch wagon that actually makes sense, and we need to do it fast.

[springlullaby]

Day 2 votecount 10

(0) Katsuki:

(0) kanyeknowsbest:

(0) Yosarian2:

(0) Vi:

(0) Zar:

(0) Furcolow:

(4) Nuwen :

Vi, charter, Zar, shos,

(2) Hiraki :

Parama, Katsuki,

(2) Parama :

Yosarian2, kanyeknowsbest,

(1) shos:

Furcolow,

(1) charter:

Hiraki,

(1) Not voting :

Nuwen

With 11 players, 6 votes are required to lynch.

Furcolow has been prodded.

[Parama]

I'm just gonna say Yos is OMGUSing

no clue what kanye is doing, as usual

[Parama]

don't like how he waited for someone else to vote before voting, though.

but eh
hiraki and yos need to die before I'll even think about thinking

[Nuwen]

One more time, so everyone can hear it Parama: Yos is scum claiming vig. You think Yos is scum claiming vig. You, Parama, think Yosarian2 claimed out the scum kill as a vig bullet for no reason or hint of a track/whatever result on him.

[Yosarian2]

I'm just gonna say Yos is OMGUSing

Ok, that's BS and you know it. Before you voted for me, I said that the scum group is probably within (Katsuki, Parama, Zar, kanyeknowsbest, Furcolow), and that I had weak town vibes from Zar and Kanye. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that means that, if there are 3 scum, that I think you are one of them. And then in response to me calling you scum, you called me scum. You OMGUSed me, not the other way around.

Now, to be fair, I was going to wait on you and lynch Kats or Furcolow first, on the theory that you might yet end up at least being more useful to the town and more active then either of them so we might as well lynch them first, but then you proved that you weren't going to be a useful member of the town by OMGUSing me without even commenting on my how the hell me being scum could possibly make any sense in this scenario here. The way you ignore all the evidence and keep voting for the Hiraki isn't helping you here either, and my Furcolow vote wasn't going anywhere, although no one was willing to explain why they didn't want to vote for him.

[Yosarian2]

Edit: Voted in that second sentence should say "attacked". You know what I mean.

[Vi]

however, how could I get these visions as scum?

"How" is not the right word here.

[Yosarian2]

C'mon, Vi, you know you want to join a Parama wagon.

[Vi]

Does Parama like intentionally say really controversial things that get him lynched as scum?

[Vi]

(I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was "yes"; that question wasn't rhetorical)