D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[Nero Cain]

We should be lynching Shmugen instead of blastering him since b/c he could be scum and escape blastering somehow.

No, no, no, no. The scum would have to work hard. We can change this by having BB target Cow and force him to target BB.

THIS DOES NOTHING BUT SAVE YOU FROM BLASTERFIRE!!!

[Shmugen]

We should be lynching Shmugen instead of blastering him since b/c he could be scum and escape blastering somehow.

No, no, no, no. The scum would have to work hard. We can change this by having BB target Cow and force him to target BB.

THIS DOES NOTHING BUT SAVE YOU FROM BLASTERFIRE!!!

The above hypothetical, Nero, involves Cow being scum and using his two shot blaster power to influence the vote to the point where I was not the final blaster target. I'd rather be blastered than lynched because you're pushing to lynch me and I think you're scum. You know the blaster folk have been miserable at shooting scum and you'd rather not risk them getting a lynch correct. My vote stays on Slandaar until I'm L-2 or the Cow wagon comes around, if I hit L-2 I'll put myself to L-1.

[Nero Cain]

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let me get this straight. You claimed hated watcher. You want to die before lylo. There's a lynch wagon on you. You said "no no no no. I want to eat blasterfire instead." Then me and Cow were all like oh "what if you're scum and you somehow escape blasterfire? You can't escape a lynch." Then you said "Not to worry, we'll have BB force Cow to target him." Assuming Cow is telling the truth about having two shots,

YOU NOT WANTING HIM TO BE ABLE TO TARGET YOU SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERS THE CHANCE OF YOU BEING BLASTERED!

"but he could be scum!"

Ok, I don't see how that changes anything. You want to be blastered but you don't want a claimed blaster to target you. lol


"You know the blaster folk have been miserable at shooting scum and you'd rather not risk them getting a lynch correct."
lol @ calling yourself a "correct lynch"

[Shmugen]

Again, Nero, confirmation bias. I am not a correct lynch, I am a correct blaster target. Lynching is for scumhunting, blasters are for problem solving. I am a problem.

[Nero Cain]

Well if you want to be blasted why don't you want Cow to target you?

[Shmugen]

I do want Cow to target me. I don't want Cow to be scum and target someone else, giving them enough blaster votes to beat my blaster vote total, leaving me alive.

[Nero Cain]

So now you do want him to target you after I pointed out how you wanting BB to target him with his power would point Cow's blasters away from you. got it.

[Shmugen]

I've always wanted Cow's blasters to point at me, Nero. Where did I say that I didn't? What I said was that if Cow is scum, he could muck with the blaster vote and we could use BB to stop his important 2 votes from going anywhere in particular, maybe. I didn't see a good way of it working.

[Nero Cain]

no you didn't? I think my head is going to explode. Are you ESL? I'm not making fun of you but you are seriously hard to understand. According to BB's roleclaim he can target a person and makes their action come to him.

"should scum try to keep me alive through blaster manipulation, we should theoretically be able to use BB's forced target power to make it work"

"if we thought scum had blaster moving powers or we thought for sure that Cow was scum and was going to try and skew the vote, BB could try to prevent it."

"We should theoretically be able to use BB's forced target power to ensure that we blaster me tonight"

"The above hypothetical, Nero, involves Cow being scum and using his two shot blaster power to influence the vote to the point where I was not the final blaster target."

yet all this while I kept yelling and screaming that BB's power would not infact makes the blasters go to you as you wanted. They make the blaster shots go to BB. Hence why I read it as you did not want the blasters to go to you b/c if BB targeted Cow like you were thinkin' then the shots would be off of you.

[Shmugen]

Play along with me here. ScumCow has a blaster shot that counts for two, yes? ScumCow shoots at someone who is not me. His two shots plus perhaps some other scum with a blaster puts a total of 3 shots on someone who isn't me. Let's say this ties the amount of blaster votes on me, as we have no idea how many blaster shots are left. Who dies in case of a tie? Cow has used his two shots to stop me from being blastered.

Now, let's say BB used his power to draw Cow's blaster shot. 2 isn't enough to kill Yoda and the three I have is enough to kill me. We have just used BB's draw power to ensure my death.

There are too many intangibles to be sure it would work, it is, as it ever was, a possible theory.

[Nero Cain]

What do you mean, the three I have?

[Shmugen]

It requires three blaster votes to actually shoot someone dead. The two votes from Cow aren't enough to kill Yoda, the three votes on me kills me.

Without needing to, I typed that really slowly as if it would help you understand.

[Nero Cain]

That's so cute!!!

scum is getting pissed off and ad homing.

[Shmugen]

Arguing with you isn't getting me anywhere, Nero, and you're right about one thing. Lynching me during the day does reduce complications. Even if I get blastered at night, what does that gain me? A longer wait for the dead thread who I am sure have some choice words for me when I arrive. I mean, best case scenario I survive to the next day with a watch result, but that seems super unlikely and we're getting low on people.

Time to do one of the things I had no intention of ever doing when I signed up for this site. At least it's kinda sorta a little for my wincon, being hated and all.

Unvote, Vote: Shmugen

[hasdgfas]

Time to do one of the things I had no intention of ever doing when I signed up for this site. At least it's kinda sorta a little for my wincon, being hated and all.

Unvote, Vote: Shmugen

What a

glorious

AtE.

[Shmugen]

I view voting one's self as one of the Cardinal Sins of Mafiascum, Cow. As they don't give out scummies for AtEs, that post is for people to see that I understood the dirtiness of what I was doing.

[Nero Cain]

You did hit the nail on the head though. We don't know how many shots there are left. Lets say Cow has two. There'd have to be atleast three and even if there were three they'd have to be willing to shoot you. And even if they were willing to shoot you they'd all have to avoid any roleblocks, protections what have you not. That leaves ALOT to chance. I don't see anything that "ensures" your death.

[hasdgfas]

I view voting one's self as one of the Cardinal Sins of Mafiascum, Cow. As they don't give out scummies for AtEs, that post is for people to see that I understood the dirtiness of what I was doing.

Which is pretty much AtE. "This is bad, but I know it's bad". This is a scum move of "nothing I say is working, so screw it, maybe I can AtE and get some votes off me".

[Shmugen]

Deadline is in 24 hours, Cow. It's a bit close to crunch time to be endorsing my own wagon if I was scum.

[hasdgfas]

Deadline is in 24 hours, Cow. It's a bit close to crunch time to be endorsing my own wagon if I was scum.

And it's

always

too close to crunch time to endorse your own wagon if you're town. So at this point, frankly, I don't care if you're town, I want you dead. I think you're scum, but I don't care.

[brizingre1]

Shmugen, cow and Seanald all look pretty scummy atm.
My vote's on Seanald but happy to change it to any one of those three.

[BBmolla]

Who am I drawing to me folks.

[BBmolla]

V/LA till Thursday btw

[Shmugen]

I wouldn't, BB. I think the general town plan should be to actually post and attempt to play the game, stay alive and hope for crosskills. It's a better idea to get rid of me now in case we get a lucky break and find some scum to lynch, we don't want to keep me till lylo because there are better lynches only for my hated to end us.
People I still could go for lynching today:
Nexus
Maybe Anxiety, Maybe Cow

[4nxi3ty]

So what about my attack is the same as your attack as scum, and what makes it more likely to come from scum, keeping in mind that everyone plays differently?

This is an unconscious slip that shows that samantha doesn't identify herself as town, there is an obvious separation in the identification thought process when sam thinks about the town and herself.

same logic you are using in this game, the fact that I did this as scum in a multiball large theme makes me believe that scum are more likely to use this logic in this game.

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Can anyone explain to me why seanald is getting lynched over Wraith and Nexus? espescially when considering they both placed very oppurtunistic and vague votes on seanald.