Mini 1336 - Revolution Mafia Game Over!

[Haschel Cedricson]

I also thought [TML's] scumhunting from the next couple of posts looked earnest enough regardless whether it actually makes any sense.

What's earnest about it? The only way TML can believe his own argument requires him to willfully ignore vijay's implications and to parse semantics in the most ridiculous "BEEP BOOP I AM A ROBOT" fashion possible.

[MattP]

I'm voting vijay, GreyICE.

[Llamarble]

Yeah Marble's scum. Plenty of scum on the big wagons trying to refuse to bus.

Marble is playing the ole "IMMA WORKHOUSE 6 TIMES I READ DIS THREAD BEFO I MAKE MAH READZ"
"I POST MORE THAN THE LOT OF YOU IM VALUABLE TO DIS TOWN"

"ILL KEEP MAKNG POSTS ABOUT HOW HARD IM WORKING RATHER THAN POSTS THAT CONTAIN ANY OF SAID WORK AND HOPE NO ONE NOTICES"

yeah
die scum die

YEAH GEE I REALLY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE.
OH WAIT WAY MORE THAN YOU? I THINK SO.

Kuribo is scum.
VOTE: Kuribo

BBmolla is town.

TRUST BBMOLLA

Fate is scum.
Vijay is town.
Darox appears to be his usual self and probably town.
Elmo is probably scum.
HC is quite sketchy.
Implosion is fairly sketchy. BTW if two players are independently very scummy but also very unlikely to be scum together a 'one of these is scum argument' can be legit. Or if they just CC each other obv.
Kanye seems kinda town which is good because I had too many scumz.
MattP seems pretty obvtown.

TRUST MATTP

Spyrex is sketchy.
TML looks pretty town.

Well that's round 1.
Good enough for tonight.

^ this so much

Makes Elmo probably not scum with HC, and a little less likely to be scum in general.
I'm not in love with the rest of that ISO though.
Except 58 which seems to suggest a 'lets figure this out together' townapproach.
Yeah okay no Elmolynch today.

Fate / Kuribo aren't living up to expectations.
I find it unusual that neither of them are louder in a game that could use some loudness.
Fate is especially lurk coasty and not getting much attention for it, which is usually a good scumsign.

suppose it would have helped if I had bookmarked the game

Here, we all know I'm going to wind up doing this at least once anyway, so:

Trust: Fate

I'll catch up in the morning.

This made me think a little bit Kuribo + Fate.

"Slips" catch town more often than scum, I'm finding.

The trick is that idiot scum tend to swarm all over it and try to GOGO MISLYNCH.

Here, SpyreX, have one of these:

Trust: SpyreX

This makes Kuribo slightly more town than Fate though.
I don't like him making excuses for not being as active as he normally is but I could see him being town I guess and Fate is scummier.

VOTE: Fate

I'm down for either a LL or Vihjay lynch whichever one's more viable

Assuming I am LL, I find this unlikely from Fatetown.
He has a very good track record of reading me correctly when I'm town, and I imagine he would want to actually read me rather than vote me over my hello-lets-get-this-moving-posts.

@BB: Fair enough. The problem I'm having with this game is that I don't have any real scumreads yet. It's kinda frustrating. The only question that I wanted answered yesterday was the question you asked vijay. Still I wanted to comment briefly on llama and give out my trust token.

@vijay: Ummmmm... no. Any smart scum team could abuse that reasoning you gave about rule 4. Person gets to lynch threshhold, claims VT in faux-frustration and "rage quits" completely feigning ignorance of rule 4. Based off your reasoning you'd call him town and unvote him.

This post seemed pretty town. Introspection into how one is playing is legit, and not having scumreads yet is a more likely situation for town to have than for scum to make up.
I also thought his scumhunting from the next couple of posts looked earnest enough regardless whether it actually makes any sense.

I'm leaning BB town atm. But at about 60-40.

No idea what Spyrex is talking about.

Elmo, that way if we lynched town we could have gotten a legit claim and then backed off, giving us a conftown. Now however, it won't work. Actually that's enough for me to go
VOTE: Elmo

Similarly this is just kinda a weird perspective for scum to make up.
I will look more into the 'A or B is scum' stuff though.
I haven't loaded the whole game into my brain yet, just ISOs so I don't have a notion of the nature of wagonries yet.

I'll get more complaints about lack of explanations, but this list is more for my benefit.
I think a lot of the scum are in the strong players pile.
Darox has me worried because he's insufferably annoying as town but this time he made an actual list of reads / reasons.
Weirdly, most of these are coming up the same as they came up in round 1.
Actually I'll try and stick explanations in this time because why not and we sure need more things to talk about.

Vijay - Seems to be playing pretty loose and has a few weird-tack-for-scum-to-take things like the 60-40 bit. Meh actually I need to meta this guy pretty hard because of the weird stuff and will do that later.

MattP - Town
Town thinking about somebody are more likely to be subject to a quick mind change:

Trust: Llamamarble

Actually,

untrust: llamarble

He seems too enthusiastic to me, seems too quick to call someone town (darox) making it seem like he knows something we don't, especially since I don't agree with his reasoning.

I don't feel scum could easily fake "I don't know if this is a scumtell but it bothers me":

You don't have any scumreads and your primary focus seems to be giving out your trust token, which comes off as a compulsory sort of feigned townhunting. I get townhunting, I do it. But your immediacy to give out your trust tokens is weird. Idk if it's a scumtell cuz I've never played a game with tokens, but my gut says it's scummy.

He calls my reads list, in which I refer to him as obvtown, crap.

Post 161 was more worthless than the elderly.

Vijay, why do you not give a shit about any of Llamarble's shitty reads that have no reasoning, other than the TML read? Or was that just a question you posed so that you could "lol" at me catching you as scum without your post seeming completely worthless and unproductive?

Fate-
This townlist seems pretty awful to me. HC looks like a good bet to be scum, Implosion could easily be scum, And Fate / Spyspy haven't towned at all yet either.

no idea why I quoted that was gonna say something but then saw a reminder of GreyICE's horrible rule set.

HC is town Implosion is town

Vote: Elmo

ALL TOWN MISSIONZ
Fate
SpyreX
HC
Implosion

That, his vote on me, his 'I am not going to care about D1' and his not being AWESOMEFATE all bother me.


Kanye and Elmo are both worthy of investigation. Elmo has a couple of ehhhhh this might flip town posts though.

^ is pretty reachy.

Yeah okay I retract my townread on Vijay. He can fake his stuff here.
He's in the maybes.
He works pretty well with HCscum though.

[SpyreX]

Wooo ooo ooo sh

I wish I could quote myself and pat myself on the back for posting a lot too

[Llamarble]

I'm down for either a LL or Vihjay lynch whichever one's more viable

Fate town would MAKE one of them viable, and Fate town would CARE between two options.

There's a problem when I have no idea who the popular "lets fucking ill it" target of the day is.

Just gonna sit here and wait for mah mission to reap all the reads

You aren't a skip participation D1 player.

Yeah Marble's scum. Plenty of scum on the big wagons trying to refuse to bus.

Marble is playing the ole "IMMA WORKHOUSE 6 TIMES I READ DIS THREAD BEFO I MAKE MAH READZ"
"I POST MORE THAN THE LOT OF YOU IM VALUABLE TO DIS TOWN"

"ILL KEEP MAKNG POSTS ABOUT HOW HARD IM WORKING RATHER THAN POSTS THAT CONTAIN ANY OF SAID WORK AND HOPE NO ONE NOTICES"

yeah
die scum die

This is just incorrect and you should know that.
Except for the I post a lot and am valuable thing, which is indeed a property I have.
Fate/Kuribo/Spyrex were all sitting around not acting like normal / trying to force scum to die but instead waiting for one of the viable lynches (most of which were on pretty clear town) to happen. THAT IS SUSPICIOUS.

[MattP]

Wooo ooo ooo sh

I wish I could quote myself and pat myself on the back for posting a lot too

All you need is an ass stretcher and a very flexible back.

Llama is bad town

[kuribo]

marble, he said PRODUCTIVE

not USELESS AND WISHYWASHY

[Llamarble]

The only person I've wishwashed on is Vijay because he's weird.
I've been way less useless than the dream-team wagon that is voting me.

[kuribo]

You could try not bitching and complaining about people telling you how much you suck by using how much they suck as a defense

[Llamarble]

Wooo ooo ooo sh

I wish I could quote myself and pat myself on the back for posting a lot too

He said I wasn't posting content, which was blatantly wrong. What do you expect me to do?

[Llamarble]

You could try not bitching and complaining about people telling you how much you suck by using how much they suck as a defense

People who normally do not suck sucking is a scumtell, not a complaint.
OMG you suck way more than you would be sucking as town has caught many evildoers.

[kuribo]

"HOW DARE YOU CALL ME USELESS, I'M WAY MORE USEFUL THAN YOU, YOU AND YOU!"

this is almost literally your last like, ten fucking posts


p-edit: oh, you're posting content in my opinion. it's just that the content you're posting is effing stupid: "kuribo is scum!" "wait, i read the game and i found scum over here instead!" "okay, guys I'm about to read the game, and..."

no. just no.

[kuribo]

You could try not bitching and complaining about people telling you how much you suck by using how much they suck as a defense

People who normally do not suck sucking is a scumtell, not a complaint.
OMG you suck way more than you would be sucking as town has caught many evildoers.

jesus christ, you derp, do i need to spell it out? when I said "suck," i was directly referring to: "DON'T CALL ME INACTIVE, YOU FUCKERS ARE INACTIVE"

[Llamarble]

Almost all of the posts I quoted contained reasoning except the first two which were my initial impressions and count as content for that reason.

[Llamarble]

Almost all of the posts I quoted contained reasoning except the first two which were my initial impressions and count as content for that reason.

[kuribo]

and by the way, it's disingenuous as shit that you try to paint me as only partially active: we both have the same number of fucking posts, and i had ten fucking more than you before you came along 150 posts later to try and "stir shit up"

[Llamarble]

"DON'T CALL ME INACTIVE; I HAVE A LOT OF CONTENT CONSIDERING HOW LONG I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PLAYING AND IT'S AN ESPECIALLY RIDICULOUS ACCUSATION CONSIDERING YOUR OWN PERFORMANCE"
Is more like it.

Sure you and I have the same number of posts.
I got into the game either Sunday or Monday.

[The Mini-Librarian]

Apologies to GreyIce and everyone in this game. Life has become an issue for me lately and I cannot put much time into my games. I am a bit ashamed but I will need to be replaced in this game.

[kuribo]

Marble, you didn't post shit until I voted you and called you out for lurking.

[Llamarble]

Because lurking is just an indescribably wonderful general purpose thing to do as scum that never attracts any suspicion and gives you loads of influence over who gets lynched and gives you an amazingly strong defense against getting lynched that I would clearly do at the start of the game for some reason given the opportunity.

I DID NOT HAVE TIME.

[kuribo]

and yet you criticize others for their lack of posting?

[Darox]

Ok.
Ok.

Who pressed the reactor meltdown button?
Why do we even have that button?

[SpyreX]

My favorite is I still keep getting brought up but when I ask why I get welllll I need to reread the game 34234 more times even though I've already said it

[Llamarble]

Meh Spyrex is town.

[MattP]

Trust: Darox

Trust: Llamarble

Done. Those three are obv town.