Catch-22 Mafia [The end?]

[Glork]

Tierce. Please define the word random for me.

[Tierce]

Glork doesn't like RVS. Glork does as much as possible to get out of RVS in a speedy fashion. Glork picked four names out of the playerlist, voted one and FoS'd the other three. And it being Glork, I want to unravel that and see if there is more meaning to it than "let's poke at RVS and see what falls out".

Alright. Was making sure.

[Glork]

Where did you get the idea that I don't like RVS? I'm pretty sure I don't have a problem with RVS.

[Near]

Vote Tierce

Whether or not he's scum, it seems that he genuinely thought that the first three people who posted before thread was locked were vanilla towns. I am pretty sure that all of the roles are unique. Tierce's thinking that vanilla towns would get the PM with multiple CC means that either 1) he was confused about his unique role (as I discussed earlier, which

I don't think is very likely anymore

) or ) he is a scum. Naturally, when he's given a unique role as a scum, it wouldn't be surprising if he mistakenly assumed that some towns have generic "vanilla" role.

But then, if he was scum, it would be against his interest to reveal vanilla townies. But then, this may be the exactly the reason: to use it to argue that he's town.

[chesskid3]

opinion on his allegations that I am rolefishing?

[Katsuki]

I'm thoroughly amused thus far.

[Near]

opinion on his allegations that I am rolefishing?

in this game, even if you are experts, we try to deduce and publicize things even if they are mildly disadvantageous for your win conditions.

because it's fun. i don't think role fishing doesn't make you scum, even if you were guilty of it.

[Tierce]

Where did you get the idea that I don't like RVS? I'm pretty sure I don't have a problem with RVS.

Don't you? I may be getting my scummers wrong. Not very relevant either way.

Vote Tierce

Whether or not he's scum, it seems that he genuinely thought that the first three people who posted before thread was locked were vanilla towns. I am pretty sure that all of the roles are unique. Tierce's thinking that vanilla towns would get the PM with multiple CC means that either 1) he was confused about his unique role (as I discussed earlier, which

I don't think is very likely anymore

) or ) he is a scum. Naturally, when he's given a unique role as a scum, it wouldn't be surprising if he mistakenly assumed that some towns have generic "vanilla" role.

But then, if he was scum, it would be against his interest to reveal vanilla townies. But then, this may be the exactly the reason: to use it to argue that he's town.

I'm female.

Gaaah discussing this post is a silppery slope. Look, I don't want to be discussing roles, which is what you are forcing me to do if that's the road you are taking for voting me.

You're saying I look town and then saying I'm

trying

to look town. Not going to lie, my scumplay is extremely calculated at a level of towntells/townslips. But don't assume immediately that someone who looks town is scum trying to look town; look at the global picture.

[Magister Ludi]

Vote with the fury of 23 suns:..................
OJANEN!!!!

I am also sort of sad Yosarian2 didn't play this game. Rat bastard.

[Glork]

Vote Tierce

Whether or not he's scum, it seems that he genuinely thought that the first three people who posted before thread was locked were vanilla towns. I am pretty sure that all of the roles are unique. Tierce's thinking that vanilla towns would get the PM with multiple CC means that either 1) he was confused about his unique role (as I discussed earlier, which

I don't think is very likely anymore

) or ) he is a scum. Naturally, when he's given a unique role as a scum, it wouldn't be surprising if he mistakenly assumed that some towns have generic "vanilla" role.

But then, if he was scum, it would be against his interest to reveal vanilla townies. But then, this may be the exactly the reason: to use it to argue that he's town.

Tierce, is Post 2 the one where Fate said he was sending out role PMs?

If so, Katsuki posted

an hour and 4 minutes

after, not just 4 minutes after.



I still want to know what the fuck you're smoking.

[Near]

Where did you get the idea that I don't like RVS? I'm pretty sure I don't have a problem with RVS.

Don't you? I may be getting my scummers wrong. Not very relevant either way.

Vote Tierce

Whether or not he's scum, it seems that he genuinely thought that the first three people who posted before thread was locked were vanilla towns. I am pretty sure that all of the roles are unique. Tierce's thinking that vanilla towns would get the PM with multiple CC means that either 1) he was confused about his unique role (as I discussed earlier, which

I don't think is very likely anymore

) or ) he is a scum. Naturally, when he's given a unique role as a scum, it wouldn't be surprising if he mistakenly assumed that some towns have generic "vanilla" role.

But then, if he was scum, it would be against his interest to reveal vanilla townies. But then, this may be the exactly the reason: to use it to argue that he's town.

I'm female.

Gaaah discussing this post is a silppery slope. Look, I don't want to be discussing roles, which is what you are forcing me to do if that's the road you are taking for voting me.

You're saying I look town and then saying I'm

trying

to look town. Not going to lie, my scumplay is extremely calculated at a level of towntells/townslips. But don't assume immediately that someone who looks town is scum trying to look town; look at the global picture.

I wasn't saying that you looked town. I was trying to say that your initial claim that the first three people who posted were town made you look scum. But even though it was scummy, if you were scum, it may not have been directly beneficial for you to share that insight.

[Shmugen]

I'd prefer the roleclaiming shenanigans to be tabled till at LEAST day 2.

[Magister Ludi]

I'd prefer the roleclaiming shenanigans to be tabled till at LEAST day 2.

erm, why?

[Shmugen]

Ask Kenny Loggins.

Really though, Tierce is good enough that we're not going to catch her on something as silly as this. She simply wouldn't put herself in the DANGER ZONE as her first post. It's far more likely to hurt town, going down this road.

[Magister Ludi]

My name is Ingo Montoya, I am roleclaiming shenaniganily on day one, prepare to die

Unvote
Vote; Shmugen

[Glork]

The chances of Tierce being scum are approximately zero.

[Tierce]

Vote Tierce

Whether or not he's scum, it seems that he genuinely thought that the first three people who posted before thread was locked were vanilla towns. I am pretty sure that all of the roles are unique. Tierce's thinking that vanilla towns would get the PM with multiple CC means that either 1) he was confused about his unique role (as I discussed earlier, which

I don't think is very likely anymore

) or ) he is a scum. Naturally, when he's given a unique role as a scum, it wouldn't be surprising if he mistakenly assumed that some towns have generic "vanilla" role.

But then, if he was scum, it would be against his interest to reveal vanilla townies. But then, this may be the exactly the reason: to use it to argue that he's town.

Tierce, is Post 2 the one where Fate said he was sending out role PMs?

If so, Katsuki posted

an hour and 4 minutes

after, not just 4 minutes after.



I still want to know what the fuck you're smoking.

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...I'll be in my corner now.

[Magister Ludi]

I'd say approximately .0073% as of right now.

Only sith lords deal in absolutes, Glork

[Tierce]

Where did you get the idea that I don't like RVS? I'm pretty sure I don't have a problem with RVS.

Don't you? I may be getting my scummers wrong. Not very relevant either way.

Vote Tierce

Whether or not he's scum, it seems that he genuinely thought that the first three people who posted before thread was locked were vanilla towns. I am pretty sure that all of the roles are unique. Tierce's thinking that vanilla towns would get the PM with multiple CC means that either 1) he was confused about his unique role (as I discussed earlier, which

I don't think is very likely anymore

) or ) he is a scum. Naturally, when he's given a unique role as a scum, it wouldn't be surprising if he mistakenly assumed that some towns have generic "vanilla" role.

But then, if he was scum, it would be against his interest to reveal vanilla townies. But then, this may be the exactly the reason: to use it to argue that he's town.

I'm female.

Gaaah discussing this post is a silppery slope. Look, I don't want to be discussing roles, which is what you are forcing me to do if that's the road you are taking for voting me.

You're saying I look town and then saying I'm

trying

to look town. Not going to lie, my scumplay is extremely calculated at a level of towntells/townslips. But don't assume immediately that someone who looks town is scum trying to look town; look at the global picture.

I wasn't saying that you looked town. I was trying to say that your initial claim that the first three people who posted were town made you look scum. But even though it was scummy, if you were scum, it may not have been directly beneficial for you to share that insight.

...Color me puzzled.

I tried to clear three people as town via a (now obviously incorrect >.>) deduction of how role PMs are being handled. I stated very openly I had no intent of ever letting those slots be lynched. And... that is scummy? I'm clearing three people as town on my first post in the game. What is the scum benefit in this? For hypoTiercescum, the benefit in "Tierce looks town for clearing three people immediately" towncred would be gigantically offset by "crap, now we have three people who are not spectacular players who we are going to have to nightkill, in addition to potential PRs and other obvtown". There's literally no advantage in this. Yes, I know, WIFOM--have it as you will, but it would be remarkably stupid of me to do this as scum.

My point is: I guess what I really don't understand is why you say

that clearing three people as town

is, by default, a scummy action.

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Will obvtown for hire. My hourly rates are available via PM. (No, seriously, don't PM me, I don't want any off-thread talk shenanigans.)

[Amrun]

Chesskid and Tierce are town.

VOTE: Ellibereth

[Papa Zito]

My point is: I guess what I really don't understand is why you say

that clearing three people as town

is, by default, a scummy action.

It's not but the way you keep beating this drum causes a quirk.

VOTE: Ellibereth

orly

why

[vijay2vasandani]

/confirm

Finally. Been fretting over this post for an hour now.

Write this in stone: Katsuki, kdowns and Shmugen are protown.

This seems underhanded, but--very strong townreads on these three. Will be very reluctant to lynch them ever.

Unless the sky cracks open and there a Sign From On High that they are confirmed scum, these three are to stay alive during dayplay. No matter what silly newb play Elmo or kdowns do or how snarky Shmu gets. (Hai.)

Until/unless, by some miracle, one of the three flips scum, don't anyone dare go after the other two. And in case they're all unflipped come LyLo, don't you lot derplynch one of them.

In any case, it is

extremely

unlikely any of them is groupscum. Will allow for the possibility of an SK but I still very, very strongly doubt that (oh no, Tierce is referring to the possibility of multiscum zomg slip on p1--no seriously, don't start).

Is that all that needs to be said about them? I think so.

Don't lynch them.

Seriously. I trust my in-game life on this not-groupscum read.


And the obv:
/confirm


(Woulda been a lot more comfortable with the game if this read was SpyreX/Glork/Nuwen, but oh well--when life gives you lemons, you give it townreads.)


VOTE: Glork
Hai buddeh. <3

I see Kats, kdowns and shmugen. What's this about Elmo?

Okay this has been discussed. I sort of understand (think I do at least) what Tierce is saying but it doesn't apply. Hmmm

Korlash with the self vote.

VOTE: Korlash

Don't remember if he does this as town or scum, I just remember him saying it somewhere. Will reread past games. Hi by the way.

Hey Kats.

[Toogeloo]

With 22 alive, it takes 23 to lynch.

What... the...?

Are we supposed to be confirming by the way? I sense this game is going to be a total train wreck based solely on the Sign Ups... should be fun. I also only know maybe 6 people on the sign ups I think.

[Magister Ludi]

I can confirm I am on a train going home right now.

[Tierce]

My point is: I guess what I really don't understand is why you say

that clearing three people as town

is, by default, a scummy action.

It's not but the way you keep beating this drum causes a quirk.

I wasn't 'beating this drum'. I'm trying to understand Near's logic for thinking my action was scummy.


Yo Amrun. Just that?


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