NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Benmage]

Why did you vote someone you claimed, and we all now know, was town?

He was obviously town. Dur.

So we should all be lynching townies so the Mafia can win, eh? Yeah.

CLEARLY

shows whose side you're on.

Benmage is our lynch today, ladies and gentlemen. I won't be upset about The Mini-Librarian being lynched, either.

Its called progression.

You aren't this dense.

I don't think I've gone a game where I didn't vote town reads of mine.

[Benmage]

This post illustrates that I have no problem voting town reads of mine to help implicate scum reads of mine. Take the inside link. Its to Zachs game, a former game where I was town.

unvote vote Baby Spice

This is me benmage wanting to lynch scum Percy, voting town BS whatsup.

Zachs montanous game where Im town.

Yes I call someone's preferred lynch target town to help implicate them if I FEEEL STRONGLY they're scum.

SOOO Everyone whose voting me solely on the zomg lld comment pretense. Well is clearly wrong.

[DLG]

@ Benmage

So what? Self-meta is scummy. Providing a single example of behavior once done as Town does not mean that replication of that behavior equates to you being Town, now.

How low of an opinion of the rest of the players do you have to expect that to fly?

I don't understand your Maxwell case, Benmage. Could you elucidate?

How about helping me lynch Psyche?

@ Mod:
I'll be V/LA until Sunday evening/Monday morning.

I may have a chance to post again before I leave this evening, but may not.

[Benmage]

I only need 1 example of doing it as town to demonstrate its not a scum move. Fuckina that's a scummmmy post dlg.

And Meta /self Meta is awesome. Whoever educated you otherwise is wrong.

This site is an open source. If I'm lying you can find it out. Moreover as known as I am the likihood of being called out for lying is raised. Hint I'm not.

Hence why I didn't just call it a standard town move but also gave an example. Meta ftw.

[Benmage]

And seeing as I am the only one to catch scum and you want to lynch me for it, I have a reallllllly low opinion of you.

[HezLucky]

I have meta that states that Benmage-scum likes to rely on meta to back up his arguments. [and now that I've said this he will never use it again]

I can prove this but proof is an ongoing game.

Confirm Vote: benmage

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 4-1

(as of Post 2430)

Benmage (4)

- StrangerCoug, Code_X, HezLucky, FakeGod

Psyche (1)

- DLG

maxwell (1)

- Benmage

The Mini-Librarian (1)

- OhGodMyLife

OhGodMyLife (1)

- andrew94

Not Voting (6)

- DeasVail, Maxous, maxwell, Psyche, redFF, The Mini-Librarian

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

Deadline:

Thursday, June 21 at 1pm CDT

Replacing:

No one

Prods:

Maxous
maxwell
The Mini-Librarian

V/LAs:

DLGJune 11

[DLG]

And seeing as I am the only one to catch scum and you want to lynch me for it, I have a reallllllly low opinion of you.

That's misleading as all fucking hell.

You weren't the only one to suspect Lady Lambdadelta.

I'd gladly see you swinging from a rope, but not for having a good suspicion on Lady Lambdadelta.

For this kind of misrepresentation.

For something you said way early in the game.

I feel this is more or less pretty standard Benmagetown.

For insisting that something you've done as Town can't be scummy in this game.

You're highly focused on "proving" your play, here, is the same as your Town play in the past. I find it extremely scummy that it's something you're doing deliberately, not happening naturally.

For something else you said earlier.

I pulled an old draft list to try and grasp some of this game. Had him under slightscum

This after you forgot about the Rack lynch (which is derptastic). Problem is, you were as rabid a supporter of the Rack lynch as anyone. Claiming him slight scum after the fact is scummy deflection of responsibility.

For reading Lady Lambdadelta Town all game, with one unexplained exception where you kind of guess her to be scum,

20. Lady Lambdadelta ---WTF is LLD.... so unlike LLD.. I'd need to iso, but Ima say scum.

don't otherwise mention her again, then act like she was such a strong scum read that you'd justify lynching a strong, obvtown read to implicate her.

So, the action in itself is a null-tell because you've done it as Town. In the context of

this

game, that action is scummy as scummy gets.

UNVOTE: Psyche
VOTE: Benmage

Psyche dies next Day phase. I abhor unvoting scum, but to nail another one, I'll do it.

[Benmage]

Im a VT, go ahead and lynch me there's too many blind and weak people. Fighting the foolishness will not Benefit the game.

Ill take some last words when at l-1 please for final reads.

Looks like Hezz just jumped to the front of the line for misrepresentin said ongoing game. But alas wait for me to flip, you can lynch him next and either nail scum or kill one of the most retarded town plays ever.

Ill have a few more to name. Obviously shotty..Max...

[The Mini-Librarian]

FFFFFFF

LLD was a goddamn godfather?

Fuck.

Anyway I don't think I can lie about my role again and make you guys believe me later.

If you couldn't tell by my reaction to the flip

I'm the cop

.

I did the thing day 2 because I wanted to crumb my role and I saw an opportunity to do so in a very obvious way. I figured with my fairly recent join date most people would just sluff it off as a newbie being silly. I was mostly right.

When SC and LLD (maybe NC also I really don't remember) asked me point blank if I was the cop late day 2 (in which I did think LLD acted a little oddly), I decided that it was best if I lied since I only had one result and if pressured to claim later I might be able to convince everyone else why I did this.

My results

N1-LLD (not guilty)
N2-Kdowns (Now DLG) (Not Guilty)
N3-Code_X (No Result (Screw you Nero Cain))

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Notes - I haven't done this yet, but everyone needs to look at day 2 and the claiming thing again. See if there were any other people that looked a little awkward dealing with that. I mean I just jokingly said that I got a inno on their godfather; scum's gotta take that a little strangely.

Take a close look at the people that forced me to claim today and jumped on my bandwagon. There's scum here.

This is a one scumteam game. (I'm a cop and there was a godfather flip, if that doesn't spell out 1-scum team...) So scumbags kill that SK will you?

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I haven't had the chance to really read everything today. I will get to that and have a vote up by tommorrow evening.

[HezLucky]

WHY WOULD YOU CLAIM COP?

YOU WEREN'T BEING WAGONED

[Psyche]

I was really hoping the cop had scanned me. What, am I not nulltell enough?

[OhGodMyLife]

OK, that's an explanation that makes sense. But for future reference, lying as town is bad mmk?

Unvote, Vote: HezLucky

I still think Benmage is town. Don't give up. Join me in lynching Hez.

[HezLucky]

Fact #2 about Benmage's meta that I have learned: When he is town, he enjoys being the most active player in the game. His activity is directly tied to his alignment. THANK YOU MAGNA OF ILLUSION.

Benmage is pretty much confirmed mafia by meta at this point. Not sure what OMGL is going on about at this point. Please explain your townread on him, so that I may pick it apart / contrast it with my scumread to set you straight.

[OhGodMyLife]

Not knowing who had been (mis)lynched. The tone of his posts. My gut is just screaming town. I also thought he was taking credit for the LLD kill but his vt claim nullifies that point.

[Maxous]

Okay so, if I was to start pushing fakegod again would anybody help me?
Would rather it than benmage.
Benmage is acceptable if it comes to it (did he ever explain why he felt so strongly about lld?).

Was thinking tml but with that claim it would'nt be a good idea.

Not from my phone, but BS has been his lead suspect for the last two days.

Percy and I are the two most experienced people here, true or false?

The most experienced should be leading, or trying to if they're town. (Not obviously blind to others logic) true or false?

Got a bit of a laugh from this comment

I will have time tomorrow to properly look at things with LLD.
Most of the rest of the playerlist is a jumble of null and nullish.

[StrangerCoug]

Why did you vote someone you claimed, and we all now know, was town?

He was obviously town. Dur.

So we should all be lynching townies so the Mafia can win, eh? Yeah.

CLEARLY

shows whose side you're on.

Benmage is our lynch today, ladies and gentlemen. I won't be upset about The Mini-Librarian being lynched, either.

Its called progression.

You aren't this dense.

I don't think I've gone a game where I didn't vote town reads of mine.

If I am dense in the first place, then you can help me find my way in a universe in which lynching town reads is ever a good idea. That was my question in the first place.

You also have the bussing accusation to defend. Lady Lambdadelta was not under any sort of serious pressure, and out of the blue you throw mud at her. Why?

And Meta /self Meta is awesome. Whoever educated you otherwise is wrong.

No, whoever educated you that meta is useful in determining alignment is wrong. That's why I don't like meta defenses.

When SC and LLD (maybe NC also I really don't remember) asked me point blank if I was the cop late day 2 (in which I did think LLD acted a little oddly), I decided that it was best if I lied since I only had one result and if pressured to claim later I might be able to convince everyone else why I did this.

My results

N1-LLD (not guilty)
N2-Kdowns (Now DLG) (Not Guilty)
N3-Code_X (No Result (Screw you Nero Cain))

I've decided not to re-invoke Lynch All Liars and accept this claim. The investigation targets make sense and DLG is alive.

Okay so, if I was to start pushing fakegod again would anybody help me?
Would rather it than benmage.
Benmage is acceptable if it comes to it (did he ever explain why he felt so strongly about lld?).

Right now my feelings about Benmage and FakeGod are the other way around, but as I've said, the lurkers need to step up to the plate this instant. I will not allow scum to lurk to victory after modding a game with apathetic town and a Corsican Mafia win.

[Maxous]

oh yeah, can tml give brief reasons as to why if chose each target

[Benmage]

Fact #2 about Benmage's meta that I have learned: When he is town, he enjoys being the most active player in the game. His activity is directly tied to his alignment. THANK YOU MAGNA OF ILLUSION.

Benmage is pretty much confirmed mafia by meta at this point. Not sure what OMGL is going on about at this point. Please explain your townread on him, so that I may pick it apart / contrast it with my scumread to set you straight.

Or you can look at any ongoing games, or games that ran concurrently with this one to realize I wasn't active in any of them because I was burnt out and overburdened.

Oh look white flag mafia just ended:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21916

Im town there... where am I on the post count? Lets face it. MoI doesn't know shit. And you don't know shit.

[Benmage]

Infact just look at WFM where I ate tons of similar shit to this game. And reacted damn near the same.

Look at my iso #65.. **#74 is an explanation that only benmagetown can drop the ball

Siting several instances of past town games

.. LOOK META DEFENSE IN ANOTHER GAME IM TOWN. SAWESOME.
#76

[Benmage]

Why did you vote someone you claimed, and we all now know, was town?

He was obviously town. Dur.

So we should all be lynching townies so the Mafia can win, eh? Yeah.

CLEARLY

shows whose side you're on.

Benmage is our lynch today, ladies and gentlemen. I won't be upset about The Mini-Librarian being lynched, either.

Its called progression.

You aren't this dense.

I don't think I've gone a game where I didn't vote town reads of mine.

If I am dense in the first place, then you can help me find my way in a universe in which lynching town reads is ever a good idea.

That was my question in the first place

..

Hence why I answered it first.

I'll spell it out for you: P.R.O.G.R.E.S.S.I.O.N.

I don't think there has ever been a game where I haven't voted someone I thought was going to flip town. BECAUSE NEWS FLASH I CAN BE WRONG.

LOL look at iso #79 in white flag again! I go me town voting town llama (was the hammer... and llama flipped scum!)

[Benmage]

OK, that's an explanation that makes sense. But for future reference, lying as town is bad mmk?

Unvote, Vote: HezLucky

I still think Benmage is town. Don't give up. Join me in lynching Hez.

Neg. Join me on Maxwell.

[HezLucky]

Fact #2 about Benmage's meta that I have learned: When he is town, he enjoys being the most active player in the game. His activity is directly tied to his alignment. THANK YOU MAGNA OF ILLUSION.

Benmage is pretty much confirmed mafia by meta at this point. Not sure what OMGL is going on about at this point. Please explain your townread on him, so that I may pick it apart / contrast it with my scumread to set you straight.

Or you can look at any ongoing games, or games that ran concurrently with this one to realize I wasn't active in any of them because I was burnt out and overburdened.

Oh look white flag mafia just ended:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21916

Im town there... where am I on the post count? Lets face it. MoI doesn't know shit. And you don't know shit.

I retract this point then.

I read another game and got excited that I had found scum.

I still think I have. The "I'm going to act useless hey guys I PICK UP MY GAME LATER okay time to POWERBUS MY GODFATHER" fits way too well for it to be a coincidence.

OMGL what do you think of that?

[Benmage]

If I was powerbusing it wouldb't be my GF with an innocent on, nor someone as strong as LLD.

(yes this is me assuming the scumteam has someone weak on it)

[maxwell]

Sort of caught up with the game though admittedly my reads aren't in great detail.

not sure what to make of benmage at this point, the post people are voting him for is bad but comes across as somewhat more condescending and sarcastic than I think people are reading it. His defense also looks bad to me but the stangercoug/code_x/fakegod votes on his wagon give me pause.

OGML - what are your reasons for voting hez? saying he has 'connections' to LLD is entirely too vague especially seeing as he's one of my town reads right now.

Reading psyche/andrew/fakegod/code x/strangercoug as scum right now. Think DLG has given me a townread on the slot formerly occupied by kdowns. Psyche just generally seems to be dodging having any real input. andrew maintains a scumread on me based on LLD supposedly distancing me but keeps a vote on OGML for reasons that aren't expalined beyond firestarter being scummy (which I don't agree with, don't see how people could see firestarter as much other than a null read). Overall, just feels contrived in most of his reasoning. Fakegod I already covered, lurky yet somehow shows up to make sure his vote is parked on a leading wagon. Code/SC are weaker reads, mainly feel like their reasoning is flimsy in a lot of places. So, all that said

VOTE: andrew94

would readily change my vote to psyche or fakegod if those are more viable.

townreads this game for me are stonger than my scumreads, reading DLG, Hez, redFF, and Maxous as town, also think TML is town based on his claim. Not going to elaborate on them unless it's necessary.