Catch-22 Mafia [The end?]

[Nuwen]

That's a steaming pile of of reverse-engineered shit.

unvote, vote near

Someone pump vijay full of lead when he returns just in time to skate around whatever is contemporary in the game and wastes content points on "catchup" reviving the dumb string of irrelevancies on the last few pages

[Toogeloo]

Ludi / Tierce scum team... I'd bet on it.

Vote: Ludi

I did a light read, but my gut is pinging all over these two. Ludi seems obvious to me, Tierce is playing a little tighter, but I feel like she is trying to be a bit more manipulative through her posts with things like the Vote Count and calling people derp, and then her appeal to emotion of contemplating replacing out. There seems to be a near connection between Tierce and Ludi too, not quite buddying, but definitely playing on the same wavelength. This is where my gut is.

I strongly believe the following slots to be absolutely town:
Vijay
Matt
Glork
Slaandar

[kuribo]

sldnadarr town?//

way to go otu on a lkimb there and repea t sometjhign evtryone eles has ALREAHY FCKUING SAID

[Amrun]

Are you drunk? lol

[Korlash]

His first post said why he hadn't posted yet. His second was a running commentary of the first 5 pages of the game. I don't know how you even compare those.

But I don't see anything intentionally misleading or reaching or somesuch in his 2nd post. so nyah

... By his 'first' post, I meant his first 'real' post, i.e. the one in which he voted near. By his second I meant his second 'real' post, the one where he voted Shmugen. (If you look in ISO you'll notice these posts are labeled as '1' and '2' in order...)

*snaps fingers* come on mate, keep up! Now compare his first 'real' post to his second and tell me why his 'order' doesn't make sense!

This is just playstyle nonsense. Maybe not even playstyle, but like language? Just because someone doesn't prepend (real word) "I think" to everything makes them scum? durp?

Where the fuck did I put all my eggs in the 'I think" basket? Don't ignore the brunt of my argument to focus on something this shitty mate. I said he didn't explain enough of his reads, hell he didn't even say 'by the way this is all gut' until questioned on it. So no, when someone fails to add any elucidation to their reads, it does CERTAINLY add suspicion and the NEED to press them for it.

And yes, saying "I know"(In a form) over "I think" has always been a 'tell' so fuck right off on that one. I'll never say it outright makes someone scum for it, but it adds up and it certainly doesn't give him any brownie points.

[Parama]

Are you drunk? lol

I bet it took you hours to come to this conclusion.
Never mind that the timestamps said it took 6 minutes.

[kuribo]

Are you drunk? lol

im not nott drink


if u no wht i mean

[Korlash]

You want to know who's being a useless derp in this game? Here's who is being a useless derp in this game:...

Place your votes where they make a difference. Starting with you, SpyreX--for someone who is giving his vote to Parama, you are way too happy in your all-your-lonesome wagon on frigging Staeg in page 9.

What? You equate being useful to where a person's vote is placed? Do you know how stupid that sounds. I can vote player X and then cease to post and you would count me as a non-useless derp? That's bullshit mate.

And the irony... A useless post calling out useless players... *shakes head* I expected more of you ma'am... (this doesn't work when I can't use sir... Would you be cool if I called you sir for times like these?)

If more people vote Shmugen I will teach them how to get SpyreX to give them lovesexytime with a Limited Edition flipbook guide.

Hey, less selling of stuff I already own in triplicate, and more answering my gosh darned questions and concerns! *slams fist into table* THEN we can have sexy times with Spy together... Well, you can hide in the closet... well... you can tell your friends you were hiding in the closet so you look cool... well...

[kuribo]

Are you drunk? lol

krolash is awesoms sauce i leik the cut of his cock

you can bagn my ssiter any aday bro

[Korlash]

Krolash always get to have all the fun... How I hate him! *shakes fist* One day Krolash! ONE DAY!!!!!!

[MattP]

Korlash is town have I said this yet?

[Near]

Oh nevermind my premise for thinking Near is town is completely wrong then.

You realize that I never said Ellibereth was town in those first comments, right, Near?

I still think Elli is town, but Near's read on him is silly.

Lol. Crap maybe I didn't write that one well.

Maybe I should have just said Eli seemed genuinely concerned about your argument.

[MattP]

Ask Kenny Loggins.

Really though, Tierce is good enough that we're not going to catch her on something as silly as this. She simply wouldn't put herself in the DANGER ZONE as her first post. It's far more likely to hurt town, going down this road.

What a miserable read this was.

@KuriboKID - Yes, Slandaar makes me want to eviscerate myself, but if you can bite down on a stick and bear it, I don't think he's the day 1 play if we're honestly shooting for scum. You're currently allowing him to jabber at you rather than talk about the game. He should not be allowed to survive too long IF ONLY to allow the town to concentrate on more important matters without the drone of a million terrible posts buzzing in our heads. Also, you may use this name if you ever wish to hydra someday, but I require my name in the signature.

@PapaZito - Allow me to explain the MattP wagon. While I don't understand where Korlash thinks he factors in to MattP's post 233, he is completely correct that it feels phoned in. See also,

It's the Death Miller thing, ain't it? I musta hit a chord with that one.

Confirmed town.

Slandaar is town for his argument with chesskid. Chesskid just wants people to love him, qq.

Okay, Korlash self vote is null. Just looked at past games.

VOTE: Chesskid

Vijay is town.

Ludi is scum for #194.

Kdowns is town.

His peace love images read that he doesn't give a fuck and only town doesn't give a fuck.

The first post had chunks cut out of it to look nicer, but there's a lot of absolutes there that shouldn't be much more than gut reads. Explanation is at an all time low. I am slightly reluctant to move my vote from Elli.

Unvote, VOTE: MattP

@Tierce - Ready for one more brainbender of a crazy theory? Watch as Fate doesn't let anyone replace out.

This post serves to remind me to make a cohesive case on Shmugen tomorrow. Gnight bitches

[Near]

Oh nevermind my premise for thinking Near is town is completely wrong then.

You realize that I never said Ellibereth was town in those first comments, right, Near?

I still think Elli is town, but Near's read on him is silly.

That's what went through my mind when I said "I think Elli is town". Why is it weak?

Tierce claimed that she figured out three vanilla towns. As a scum, Elli would not have genuinely tried to figure out the basis for what you were trying to say. And even if he did, he would try to attack Tierce when it turned out that her reasoning didn't apply to this game.

Is it weak because it's a minute detail that borderlines WIFOM? Anyway, that combined with his direct attack on me, I standby my read on Elli

[Amrun]

Tierce claimed that she figured out three vanilla towns. As a scum, Elli would not have genuinely tried to figure out the basis for what you were trying to say. And even if he did, he would try to attack Tierce when it turned out that her reasoning didn't apply to this game.

What are people's issues with this? This is super logical and probably true.

[Katsuki]

So?

Firstly, that's not even the problem with Near (I didn't even bother reading his posts, skim was enough).
Secondly, logic is a flawed way of scumhunting (logic in terms of argument). His actions are scummy, of which all the logic in the world wouldn't be able to save him.

[Amrun]

I'm not saying he's town because he's logical. I just don't understand how anything he's done thus far is scummy.

[Near]

So?

Firstly, that's not even the problem with Near (I didn't even bother reading his posts, skim was enough).
Secondly, logic is a flawed way of scumhunting (logic in terms of argument).

His actions are scummy

, of which all the logic in the world wouldn't be able to save him.

Please tell me why.

[Near]

Unvote

Vote Slandaar

[Tierce]

Why is Slandaar scum, Near?

[Near]

ignorabot still on
but seriously

why do people think Near is town

Look at the persona he's portrayed here (ample role stuff, doesn't know VT, etc.etc, asks a lot of "don't understand etc.)
but he completely ignores my "loldon't do that, daytalk" comment.
Why would that be?

but yeah
basically 99% of his stuff is random role stuff
random Ellitown with fairly irrelevant and outdated quote
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but I could get that part with the way the game is and etc. but all the stuff before.

Sorry didn't see this until now.

I didn't know what VT was. I also didn't know what QT was, but I googled "mafia qt" to find out.
I didn't respond because I thought you were joking.
And even if you were accusing me, are scums less likely to respond to accusations?

Yes I talked about role stuff. I know sometimes I shouldn't talk about role stuff, but it doesn't matter if we establish that everyone gets a unique "character". My comment about soldier in white.... hmm i don't know. I shouldn't have done that but considering such low probability of my being right, i don't think it matters.

About Elli being town, I had my reason. Should have talked about it earlier.

[Near]

Why is Slandaar scum, Near?

I don't know. I wanted to vote Nuwen, but I don't think he's going to die. Feel like we should lynch someone.

[Tierce]

Ludi / Tierce scum team... I'd bet on it.

Vote: Ludi

I did a light read, but my gut is pinging all over these two. Ludi seems obvious to me,

Tierce is playing a little tighter, but I feel like she is trying to be a bit more manipulative through her posts with things like the Vote Count and calling people derp

, and then her appeal to emotion of contemplating replacing out. There seems to be a near connection between Tierce and Ludi too, not quite buddying, but definitely playing on the same wavelength. This is where my gut is.

I strongly believe the following slots to be absolutely town:
Vijay
Matt
Glork
Slaandar

Emphasis

mine--you may want to meta me. I lash out at derp town and do unofficial VCs all the time. How is this manipulative? By trying to make myself 'useful'? ...then you might want to look at my title/Scummy combo, from after the crash where I was doing drudge work recovering caches of lost games. It's not alignment-relevant, I'm just a control freak/obsessive over potentially lost info.

Why are vijay2vasandani and MattP town to you?

[Katsuki]

So?

Firstly, that's not even the problem with Near (I didn't even bother reading his posts, skim was enough).
Secondly, logic is a flawed way of scumhunting (logic in terms of argument).

His actions are scummy

, of which all the logic in the world wouldn't be able to save him.

Please tell me why.

For reasons Elli has already spotted.

Left-field would be a pretty good explanation.

[Toogeloo]

Emphasis

mine--you may want to meta me. I lash out at derp town and do unofficial VCs all the time. How is this manipulative? By trying to make myself 'useful'? ...then you might want to look at my title/Scummy combo, from after the crash where I was doing drudge work recovering caches of lost games. It's not alignment-relevant, I'm just a control freak/obsessive over potentially lost info.

Why are vijay2vasandani and MattP town to you?

There is something genuine I read about them, and some of their reactions are very similar to my reactions as well, which is enough for me at this point.


Your meta aside, there is still something twitching at my gut that makes me feel you and Ludi are in cahoots.