Mini 1336 - Revolution Mafia Game Over!

[MattP]

Llama DID get that ability at night, and it's confirmed because AFTER Llama stated he gained an ability Kuribo stated that he did as well. If Llama were scum he would not have known about the acquiring of abilities, and therefore if faking would have had to wait until after Kuribo revealed his ability to fake his own. Unless the scum has knowledge of these abilities and we weren't informed of it, which is kind of bastard.

Therefore, Llama is conftown since he was the first to claim the acquiring of an ability. I am of the belief that Fate tried to pit Llama and HC in a 1 v 1. It seems like it would be kind of dumb and really would put his neck out there, but there are two reasons why Fate would have done it:

1) Fate knows they are both town so it would have resulted in two town deaths. This confirms that HC is town as well
2) Fate knows that the mission is composed of 6 town and he has been trying all day to switch out members of the mission because if we keep these six it's an auto-town win since we have 6 conftown. Therefore, whether or not Fate

wants

to he

has

to somehow switch up the mission.

This concludes that Fate is scum and that we should be voting for him. Kthx.

[MattP]

And a 1 v 1 of Llama and HC DOES mix up the mission.

[SpyreX]

When did the shoehorn or whatever go off?

[kuribo]

i got the message stating I had recieved a shoe phone not too long before I got the message saying that day 2 had begun

Fate still hasn't used it to pass a message to me, you'd think he'd at least not want to waste the charge I used to let him do that

[SpyreX]

I mean does it follow the "got N1" "use D2" hulalababloo

[kanyeknowsbest]

Llama DID get that ability at night, and it's confirmed because AFTER Llama stated he gained an ability Kuribo stated that he did as well. If Llama were scum he would not have known about the acquiring of abilities, and therefore if faking would have had to wait until after Kuribo revealed his ability to fake his own. Unless the scum has knowledge of these abilities and we weren't informed of it, which is kind of bastard.

Therefore, Llama is conftown since he was the first to claim the acquiring of an ability. I am of the belief that Fate tried to pit Llama and HC in a 1 v 1. It seems like it would be kind of dumb and really would put his neck out there, but there are two reasons why Fate would have done it:

1) Fate knows they are both town so it would have resulted in two town deaths. This confirms that HC is town as well
2) Fate knows that the mission is composed of 6 town and he has been trying all day to switch out members of the mission because if we keep these six it's an auto-town win since we have 6 conftown. Therefore, whether or not Fate

wants

to he

has

to somehow switch up the mission.

This concludes that Fate is scum and that we should be voting for him. Kthx.

fyi this only makes sense if you assume that scum dont get their own abilities at night. in a game where they dont have a nightkill. and in specific with an ability that is immensely alignment independent.

so are you retarded or scum trying to force your buddy into being conftown?

[kanyeknowsbest]

Llama DID get that ability at night, and it's confirmed because AFTER Llama stated he gained an ability Kuribo stated that he did as well. If Llama were scum he would not have known about the acquiring of abilities, and therefore if faking would have had to wait until after Kuribo revealed his ability to fake his own. Unless the scum has knowledge of these abilities and we weren't informed of it, which is kind of bastard.

Therefore, Llama is conftown since he was the first to claim the acquiring of an ability. I am of the belief that Fate tried to pit Llama and HC in a 1 v 1. It seems like it would be kind of dumb and really would put his neck out there, but there are two reasons why Fate would have done it:

1) Fate knows they are both town so it would have resulted in two town deaths. This confirms that HC is town as well
2) Fate knows that the mission is composed of 6 town and he has been trying all day to switch out members of the mission because if we keep these six it's an auto-town win since we have 6 conftown. Therefore, whether or not Fate

wants

to he

has

to somehow switch up the mission.

This concludes that Fate is scum and that we should be voting for him. Kthx.

fyi this only makes sense if you assume that scum dont get their own abilities at night. in a game where they dont have a nightkill. and in specific with an ability that is immensely alignment independent.

so are you retarded or scum trying to force your buddy into being conftown?

[kuribo]

I mean does it follow the "got N1" "use D2" hulalababloo

I got it at the start of the day and I can use it any time day or night. just that there may be unpleasantness if I don't use it in a timely fashion

(i reckon this means it expires)

[SpyreX]

cooo

carry on my wayward sons

[Voidedmafia]

Not liking Kayne's insistence on smearing Llama's claim. Matt's explanation for things should lend more credence to it.

Vote: Fate

[kanyeknowsbest]

im not trying to smear his claim? hc has confirmed that what llama claimed is true, theres no disputing that it happened unless llama and hc are scum pulling some retarded gambit on us. what im saying is that its not alignment indicative and certainly does not make him conftown like matt is trying to suggest.

[MattP]

He said he gained it from the mission and kuribo stated he gained something from the mission too. How would he have known that people gain things from missions unless he did as a pro town?

[implosion]

...maybe scum can gain things from missions?

holy shit i broke something

[MattP]

Scum would not gain anything from a town successful mission

[Voidedmafia]

Scum would not gain anything from a town successful mission

Regardless of whether or not scum is on the mission?

[MattP]

If they succeed, they receive benefits befitting their glorious success. But if they fail, their oppressors will be emboldened!

I take this as oppressors only being "emboldened" if we fail.

[vijay2vasandani]

@ marble: no idea what my item does. all i know is that i can use it during the day where all actions of my target will fail for that phase and the subsequent night, or use it at night where all actions of my target will fail for that phase and the subsequent day. I dont know what it actually does. I assumed RB initially but the wording made me suspect something else.

[vijay2vasandani]

I mean does it follow the "got N1" "use D2" hulalababloo

I got it at the start of the day and I can use it any time day or night. just that there may be unpleasantness if I don't use it in a timely fashion

(i reckon this means it expires)

my item said this as well.

so are we lynching HC or not? if not, let's lynch VM please.

[BBmolla]

Behind. Will catch up ASAP.

[Voidedmafia]

I mean does it follow the "got N1" "use D2" hulalababloo

I got it at the start of the day and I can use it any time day or night. just that there may be unpleasantness if I don't use it in a timely fashion

(i reckon this means it expires)

my item said this as well.

so are we lynching HC or not? if not, let's lynch VM please.

Ignoring the new scumminess in fate just to push your mislynch?

Just found us a potential connection here, folks. But Fate dies first.

[vijay2vasandani]

Fate is 50-50 for me atm. You on the other hand are more than that.

[Fate]

hi. marbles beliefs dont make any fucking sense as someone who genuinely believes all the shit he says. im sorry for ever doubting you fate, please forgive me~~~

unvote vote marble

All is forgiven Kanye. In tne end, you knew the best course of action afterall.

In some ways, enlightenment is more geniune to me than the believers I've had all along.

[Fate]

I see no reason to speculate that scum don't gain a "pro-town" ability from a sucessful mission. Modding otherwise would out any scum on the mission that choose not to sabotage because they WOULDNT have a confirmable ability recieved.


Also Marble continues to reference other games to make a case on me. He's getting farther and farther from this game and facts, because he knows there is no truth that I am scum here.

So he distances farther away, with shit like "your play reminds me of MY play in ANOTHER GMAE where I WAS scum"

Yeah

lolk.


MattP's shit logic continues to astound me and what makes me REALLY pissed is the fact when I flip town he won't skip a fucking beat, learn a fucking lesson, humble a fucking pie, and go straight back to herpderplogicin his was into more ruin

[Llamarble]

I use memories of how I have felt/behaved as scum to put myself in other peoples' scumshoes.
This has been a big part of my approach for a long time.

Nobody other than me / Kuribo has spoken up about getting an ability from the mission, and simply not giving supplies to everyone solves your 'scum who don't sabotage get outed' problem. And the abilities we received are weak enough that the primary benefit of them may have been that they are supposed to make it harder to lynch us. As MattP mentioned, I was also the first player to claim getting something. There is also no reason I can think of for me scum to give information I gathered out to the town, or to choose to target HC with such a role instead of somebody unlikely to get lynched. My role does not make me confirmed town, but my overall play does make me obvtown and thinking otherwise is simply incorrect lazy reading.

[Llamarble]

Behind. Will catch up ASAP.

You're posting a lot more in other games than this one.
Grrr.

My first pass rereading all my lynch candidates failed to produce a favorite. Bleh.