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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:50 am

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NabakovNabakov wrote:Guille's playstyle appears to be founded upon chain-lynch speculation. This is terrible, but I don't think he realizes it.


I have not considered this to be a bad play-style. I can see the pros and cons to this. I might tone this down if it's disturbing for town.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:54 am

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NabakovNabakov wrote:In fact: Unvote; Vote: drmyshotgun. Sparse posting but attentive enough to avoid modprods. Aims mostly for the easy wagons ("scumslip", newbcard, true newbie). Classic D1 scum profile.


I like your first post Nab. But I don't see this. But I can't really argue against it. I'll keep this in mind.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:37 am

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guille2015 wrote:
NabakovNabakov wrote:In fact: Unvote; Vote: drmyshotgun. Sparse posting but attentive enough to avoid modprods. Aims mostly for the easy wagons ("scumslip", newbcard, true newbie). Classic D1 scum profile.


I like your first post Nab. But I don't see this. But I can't really argue against it. I'll keep this in mind.


You like my first post because I'm charming and know how to string together a sentence. Now please engage with my arguments. This goes for everybody.

Do you understand why I'm voting for Shotgun? Why are you unconvinced? I'll admit that I only sketched my case. Here's some more detail on what I meant by the list in parentheses:
-"scumslip": Shotgun's first serious vote is on Trollie (130) for raising the possibility of Scum PRs, and it's of the standard "OMG, you're scummy for making a reasonable conjecture about the scum setup" form. Lazy. Also, he takes the vote off once it's clear that wagon isn't gaining any steam.
-newbcard: Shotgun uses this term in 178, and while it's totally true that Mala
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playing the newbcard, voting just on that basis is another lazy/scummy move. The newbcard is a poor excuse for scummy behavior, but it's not scummy in and of itself. When Shotgun points to "newbcard" but doesn't say anything about how or why Mala has been acting scummy, that's scumhunting by rote.
-true newbie: This refers to Shotgun's total wagon vote on Defender (283). Let's face it, Defender is (was?) a newbie. He's mainly caught shit for posting too little and too narrowly. It's easy to join a wagon without much explanation when there's very little to explain.

This is not to say that Trollie/Mala/Defender definitely aren't scum, but their wagons have all of the characteristics that appeal to D1 scum. They're relatively simple, unobjectionable, and aren't likely to generate a lot of discussion even in the event they get taken to lynch.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:04 am

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:08 am

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I usually tunnel the hell out of people, so deal with it, but what have i done this game to tunnel? Nothing has changed since my explanation of my vote and my quarantine.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:10 am

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@nabakov, I am not sure gunny is town, but the reasons for voting him that you have outlined look like gunny's scumhunting to me
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:57 am

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Yeah, I see what you mean, Nab. I was really surprised at the defender bandwagon. It caught surprisingly fast.

Yes, shotgun's jump on the defender wagon is suspect. So was Ser Arthur's Vote. Image, Trollie, and Mala offered an explaintion of why they are voting (albeit weak IMO). I will consider Shotgun for now because I agree with you. But my biggest suspicions fall on Mala and Ser. Check them out, and see if your shotgun read is stronger than them.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:16 am

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Sorry I've been inactive.

Espeonage, tell me why you REALLY moved your quarantine. There better be a better reason than trying to reaction fish on me.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:31 am

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guille2015 wrote:But my biggest suspicions fall on Mala and Ser.

When did I become a big suspicion to you? To me, it sounds it came around this spot:
Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I also have a theory/idea I've been working with, that actually makes me more convinced Esp is town and that actually makes Guille (if it were true), look very bad. However, I think revealing it now would be a bad idea.

guille2015 wrote:That is awesome ser because I have a similar theory were Esp is town(if it were true) and you look very bad.

Do you meant to say this
wasn't
bluffing?
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:19 am

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I admit being guilty of posting just enough to avoid proddings.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:33 am

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drmyshotgun wrote:I admit being guilty of posting just enough to avoid proddings.


But you are a top poster.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:34 am

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I
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:37 am

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I also admit being guilty of:
Not enough scumhunting;
Lack of intelligent involvement;
Sheeping mindlessly;
And fooling around when others were doing some good analysis.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:38 am

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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
guille2015 wrote:But my biggest suspicions fall on Mala and Ser.

When did I become a big suspicion to you? To me, it sounds it came around this spot:
Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I also have a theory/idea I've been working with, that actually makes me more convinced Esp is town and that actually makes Guille (if it were true), look very bad. However, I think revealing it now would be a bad idea.

guille2015 wrote:That is awesome ser because I have a similar theory were Esp is town(if it were true) and you look very bad.

Do you meant to say this
wasn't
bluffing?

I explained my position on you. I admit I don't have much evidence, but your play makes me suspicious of you. I found you before that. On the phone so I can't find it.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:40 am

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Your 3rd, so Step it up.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:41 am

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Sorry, 4th.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:43 am

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The only thing I truly contributed in my part is about Espeonage being true VT.

P-Edit: Okay.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:20 pm

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drmyshotgun wrote:I also admit being guilty of:
Not enough scumhunting;
Lack of intelligent involvement;
Sheeping mindlessly;
And fooling around when others were doing some good analysis.


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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:01 pm

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D3f3nd3r wrote:Sorry I've been inactive.

Espeonage, tell me why you REALLY moved your quarantine. There better be a better reason than trying to reaction fish on me.


Because I don't want him to be NKed.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:03 pm

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Phillammon wrote:
NabNab: ♥. Townie, after 1 post.


This scares the shit out of me because it's not true. He even said he started crafting his post before he got his role. This is a stupid sentiment and should be stamped out until he's posted a decent amount.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:48 pm

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Espeonage wrote:
Phillammon wrote:
NabNab: ♥. Townie, after 1 post.


This scares the shit out of me because it's not true. He even said he started crafting his post before he got his role. This is a stupid sentiment and should be stamped out until he's posted a decent amount.

It scared the shit out of me too, but I assumed it was an inner joke or something, like they know each other before. Meh.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:51 pm

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drmyshotgun wrote:I also admit being guilty of:
Not enough scumhunting;
Lack of intelligent involvement


Then again, I've got the same issues. They don't mean "obvtown." They don't mean "obvscum." They don't seem THAAAAAAAT scummy.



P-Edit: I doubt it's a joke, but it might just be.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:55 pm

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Phill might claim it to be a joke but then again, maybe he won't cause I mentioned it just now.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:58 pm

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I'm thinking that the person, like me, just didn't process that NN did that post pre-sub.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:19 pm

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Espeonage wrote:
Phillammon wrote:
NabNab: ♥. Townie, after 1 post.


This scares the shit out of me because it's not true. He even said he started crafting his post before he got his role. This is a stupid sentiment and should be stamped out until he's posted a decent amount.


Sorry, but when did he say that? I agree that you shouldn't mark anyone as town. But nobody is taking Phil seriously.
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