Mini 1348- Dragon Ball Z: Saiyan Saga Mafia (Game Over)

BK201 · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:43 pm

-Better than RVS
-How is it an error? Psyche had an opinion, regardless of his/yours alignment, how can you disprove his opinion?
-Attack the post not the poster.

Acosmist · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 pm

See, I have great difficulty telling stupid play and scummy play apart. Yates could tell you that from the time we WEREN'T scumbuddies, in Starfox 64, where kdowns played so terribly I was 100% convinced, as if I had a guilty result on him, that he had to be mafia. No other explanation for the things he did. I still scratch my head over it today.

Part of the problem, I suppose, is that he voted me, and I was modfirmed town. But I digress.

Point is, my mafia analysis often violates the maxim "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." I just am not a good enough mafia player to figure out the precise extensions of stupid and scummy behavior, respectively. So, I am avoiding the temptation to call for the lynches of everyone who has voted me in this awful wagon.

HOWEVER, I really tried, in good faith, to find a town motivation for what Psyche is doing. Couldn't. I'm going with him for scum, and second place can go to anyone who hammers me. Then, BK, there could be a slot for you, but I really really want to be talked out of it. I'd hate to be bad as town again!

Acosmist · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:48 pm

↑ BK201 wrote:-Better than RVS
-How is it an error? Psyche had an opinion, regardless of his/yours alignment, how can you disprove his opinion?
-Attack the post not the poster.

1. A fifth vote on :mumblemumble: is better than RVS? Well why don't we just :mumble: the :mumble: night 1?

2. I already explained. It's not an opinion - it's a misstatement of fact (also, opinions can be wrong. Why do people think they can't be?) Psyche was wrong, I've shown it, and now you're doubling down on something completely refuted. That's bad!

3. Why are you avoiding my questions?

3a. No, seriously, you just completely deflected. Huh! What a scumtell.

Lynch BK after Psyche, folks. Thanks. I know you'll obey me when I flip.

BK201 · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:49 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:HOWEVER, I really tried, in good faith, to find a town motivation for what Psyche is doing. Couldn't. I'm going with him for scum, and second place can go to anyone who hammers me. Then, BK, there could be a slot for you, but I really really want to be talked out of it. I'd hate to be bad as town again!

Why would the hammerer be 2nd to psyche?

Psyche · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:50 pm

This is fantastic! The game is now completely marinated.

Why am I scum, Acosmist?

Psyche · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:50 pm

unvote

in case someone gets too frisky.

Acosmist · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:51 pm

↑ BK201 wrote:
↑ Acosmist wrote:HOWEVER, I really tried, in good faith, to find a town motivation for what Psyche is doing. Couldn't. I'm going with him for scum, and second place can go to anyone who hammers me. Then, BK, there could be a slot for you, but I really really want to be talked out of it. I'd hate to be bad as town again!
Why would the hammerer be 2nd to psyche?

People hammer for all sorts of reasons. People post like Psyche because they are scum.

Acosmist · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:52 pm

↑ Psyche wrote:This is fantastic! The game is now completely marinated.

Why am I scum, Acosmist?

Because there was no motivation to what you did but a scummy one. I even gave you a chance to back off! If you were town, you should have had a sinking feeling you were doing a terrible thing for your win condition.

Hey, I even let you kiss my ring. We could have been pals!

Acosmist · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:52 pm

↑ Psyche wrote:
unvote
in case someone gets too frisky.

^lol

BK201 · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:53 pm

VOTE: Psyche

BK201 · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:57 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:
↑ BK201 wrote:
3. ...you're seeing things that aren't there. Is your judgment always this bad in mafia? Are you typically led astray so easily? Should we trust anything you do? Does it bother you that you can be so easily manipulated?

Quoting to answer last part of #52. The rest of #52 would just be me repeating myself.

"seeing things that arn't there." Tone. If I had to go into detail it would be where you say Psyche is being lynched today, when you're at L-1 or L-2. In that situation that seems like UberNinja/Kondi style of trying to win people over with confidence.

I'll ignore the rest b/c its just an attack on the poster.

BK201 · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:58 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:Yeah, Psyche is not a person you're going to want to follow, because he's getting lynched today.

for reference.

Acosmist · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:01 pm

↑ BK201 wrote:
↑ Acosmist wrote:
↑ BK201 wrote:
3. ...you're seeing things that aren't there. Is your judgment always this bad in mafia? Are you typically led astray so easily? Should we trust anything you do? Does it bother you that you can be so easily manipulated?
Quoting to answer last part of #52. The rest of #52 would just be me repeating myself.

"seeing things that arn't there." Tone. If I had to go into detail it would be where you say Psyche is being lynched today, when you're at L-1 or L-2. In that situation that seems like UberNinja/Kondi style of trying to win people over with confidence.

I'll ignore the rest b/c its just an attack on the poster.

1. And I said I'm not good at analysis. So where do you think the confidence comes from?

2. That's a clever trick. If I can't attack posters in a game of mafia, what exactly can I do? Are we playing chess? Should I capture your rook? I thought mafia was a game of human interaction. WHO STEERED ME WROOOOONG

Acosmist · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:02 pm

↑ BK201 wrote:
↑ Acosmist wrote:Yeah, Psyche is not a person you're going to want to follow, because he's getting lynched today.
for reference.

Do you think there was a risk someone would lynch me just because that sounded so cocky? Because if anyone would do that (hi kdowns are you reading this game), that person would be violating that rule of playing to their wincon.

And generally just being metabad at mafia.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:03 pm

[joke]Guys, there is WAY too much happening already. Have you seen DBZ? 5 minutes takes 12 episodes. Cool your jets.[/joke]

Acosmist, I can't tell if you're trolling. You look at your suspect's posts and tell us what's wrong with them.

Acosmist · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:04 pm

man that is a supremely lazy post

Acosmist · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:04 pm

whoa now, stuff happening? NOT ON MY WATCH ACOSMIST GO DO MY SCUMHUNTING WORK FOR ME EVEN THOUGH YOU ALREADY DID

Acosmist · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:05 pm

Glad someone's finally spelling my name right. It's a real word! Seriously! Hegel called Spinoza an acosmist! It was just too good not to use!

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:06 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:whoa now, stuff happening? NOT ON MY WATCH ACOSMIST GO DO MY SCUMHUNTING WORK FOR ME EVEN THOUGH YOU ALREADY DID

I was referring to your "Is this chess?" comment. Sorry, shoulda made that clear.

Acosmist · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:06 pm

Also, serious now: I think a flavor knowledge claim is a good idea.

I know almost nothing about DBZ.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:09 pm

I've seen every episode. more than once.

Psyche · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:10 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:
↑ Psyche wrote:This is fantastic! The game is now completely marinated.

Why am I scum, Acosmist?

Because there was no motivation to what you did but a scummy one. I even gave you a chance to back off! If you were town, you should have had a sinking feeling you were doing a terrible thing for your win condition.

Hey, I even let you kiss my ring. We could have been pals!

Are you serious? It's earlygame. And as an earlygame poster, it's my job to push people's buttons until they do something silly. And from that, build a D1..!

↑ BK201 wrote:VOTE: Psyche

Like unexplained vote hopping.

↑ BK201 wrote:
↑ Acosmist wrote:
↑ BK201 wrote:
3. ...you're seeing things that aren't there. Is your judgment always this bad in mafia? Are you typically led astray so easily? Should we trust anything you do? Does it bother you that you can be so easily manipulated?
Quoting to answer last part of #52. The rest of #52 would just be me repeating myself.

"seeing things that arn't there." Tone. If I had to go into detail it would be where you say Psyche is being lynched today, when you're at L-1 or L-2. In that situation that seems like UberNinja/Kondi style of trying to win people over with confidence.

I'll ignore the rest b/c its just an attack on the poster.

UN and Kondi do that as town, too, though. A lot of people do. >.>

vote BK

Not buying his justification for joining the wagon he's no longer on. And his joining the Psyche one seems like an escape route.

I'm getting townreads from Acomist. He's got spunk. And spunk is sexy.

Acosmist · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:12 pm

whoa there hoss, lots of people need to post and vote and lynch Psyche before we go voting BK

Psyche · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:15 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:whoa there hoss, lots of people need to post and vote and lynch Psyche before we go voting BK

Now I'm really wondering what the difference between your serious and unserious posts is.

BK201 · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:16 pm

↑ Acosmist wrote:
↑ BK201 wrote:
↑ Acosmist wrote:Yeah, Psyche is not a person you're going to want to follow, because he's getting lynched today.
for reference.

Do you think there was a risk someone would lynch me just because that sounded so cocky? Because if anyone would do that (hi kdowns are you reading this game), that person would be violating that rule of playing to their wincon.

And generally just being metabad at mafia.

I don't think anyone would lynch you for sounding cocky. Its null obviously. Coming off artificial or forced is a scumtell though. I'm not sure enough to lynch you for it, and I never saw you as in danger of being lynched considering how scummy it would make the hammerer look should you flip town.