Mini 1348- Dragon Ball Z: Saiyan Saga Mafia (Game Over)

[pappums rat]

Votecount 1.2

Acosmist - 4 (dicknose, Benmage, Thor665, MattP)
Thor665 - 1 (JohnnyFarrar)
Psyche - 2 (Acosmist, BK201)
BK201 - 1 (Psyche)
MattP - 1 (Yates)

Not voting - (PeregrineV, Slandaar, Agent_Ireland, iDanyBoy)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is 1 AM EST on July 5, 2012.

[PeregrineV]

Vote: dicknose

Anatomically, you disturb me.

Catching up.

[Yates]

Pere is here too? <3

You should be voting for MattP, though.

[PeregrineV]

Good news, I found 2 of the scumteam.

MattP & JohnnyFarrar

Bad news, don;t know the last one yet.

Vote: MattP

pedit: Telepathy ftw!!!


Flavor knowledge: It's like Pokeman but has "dragon" in the title.

[Thor665]

@Pere - I'd forgotten that quote, thank you for the smile.

Why is Johnny scum? All I have is a fat pile of null on him.

[PeregrineV]

Hiiiiiiiiii Thor/psyche/anyone else I'm already in a game with.

VOTE: Thor
cuz I don't ride the bus.

-Use of word bus instead of wagon. Wagon is a series of votes on a person, bus refers to attacking your fellow mafiate.

Yeah, Psyche is not a person you're going to want to follow, because he's getting lynched today.

for reference.

Do you think there was a risk someone would lynch me just because that sounded so cocky? Because if anyone would do that (hi kdowns are you reading this game), that person would be violating that rule of playing to their wincon.

And generally just being metabad at mafia.

3. ...you're seeing things that aren't there. Is your judgment always this bad in mafia? Are you typically led astray so easily? Should we trust anything you do? Does it bother you that you can be so easily manipulated?

Quoting to answer last part of #52. The rest of #52 would just be me repeating myself.

"seeing things that arn't there." Tone. If I had to go into detail it would be where you say Psyche is being lynched today, when you're at L-1 or L-2. In that situation that seems like UberNinja/Kondi style of trying to win people over with confidence.

I'll ignore the rest b/c its just an attack on the poster.

1. And I said I'm not good at analysis. So where do you think the confidence comes from?

2. That's a clever trick. If I can't attack posters in a game of mafia, what exactly can I do? Are we playing chess? Should I capture your rook? I thought mafia was a game of human interaction. WHO STEERED ME WROOOOONG

[joke]Guys, there is WAY too much happening already. Have you seen DBZ? 5 minutes takes 12 episodes. Cool your jets.[/joke]

Acosmist, I can't tell if you're trolling. You look at your suspect's posts and tell us what's wrong with them.

man that is a supremely lazy post

whoa now, stuff happening? NOT ON MY WATCH ACOSMIST GO DO MY SCUMHUNTING WORK FOR ME EVEN THOUGH YOU ALREADY DID

whoa now, stuff happening? NOT ON MY WATCH ACOSMIST GO DO MY SCUMHUNTING WORK FOR ME EVEN THOUGH YOU ALREADY DID

I was referring to your "Is this chess?" comment. Sorry, shoulda made that clear.

-This set of interactions between Acomist and Johnnny.

-Two more flavor based posts.

[iDanyboy]

Btw way my flavor Knowledge is the 1st 10 episode of Dragon Ball Z.

[Thor665]

@Pere - for Johnny to be scum in that setup Acosmist has to be scum too. You're voting Matt.

Discuss.

[Slandaar]

PV ...

Good news, I found 2 of the scumteam.

MattP & JohnnyFarrar

-Use of word bus instead of wagon. Wagon is a series of votes on a person,

bus refers to attacking your fellow mafiate.

if you think this aco must be scum also. Why isnt he in your scum list?

Anyways...

VOTE: MattP

This is good.

pedit; what thor said

[PeregrineV]

@Pere - for Johnny to be scum in that setup Acosmist has to be scum too. You're voting Matt.

Discuss.

Acomist may well be, also. But MattP vote putting Acomist to L-1 was worse. And he was reading, so he knew what he was about.

VOTE: Acosmist

Psyche told me to.

Even scummier for now, while Johnny is weaker gut stuff.

[PeregrineV]

PV ...

Good news, I found 2 of the scumteam.

MattP & JohnnyFarrar

-Use of word bus instead of wagon. Wagon is a series of votes on a person,

bus refers to attacking your fellow mafiate.

if you think this aco must be scum also. Why isnt he in your scum list?

Anyways...

VOTE: MattP

This is good.

pedit; what thor said

He could be the mysterious third one, but not laying all my cards on the table this early.

[Yates]

Ok, so I'll just ask it:
@Johnny - why did you phrase your vote reason as "cuz I don't ride the bus?"

These were the people on the wagon [in order of membership] when you voted:
dicknose
Ben
Thor
Psyche
BK

Are you saying one of these guys is "bussing" Acosmist? If so, are you saying you think Acosmist is scum? If so, does this mean you think Thor is the most likely of these individuals to be bussing Acosmist? If so, why wouldn't you just vote for Acosmist and worry about Thor tomorrow?

[Psyche]

I think trying to draw scumtells from an RVS wagon could take us down a bad path.

[Slandaar]

I think trying to draw scumtells from an RVS wagon could take us down a bad path.

What was the point of the RVS wagon then?

[MattP]

I think trying to draw scumtells from an RVS wagon could take us down a bad path.

Yes but drawing reads from people's reactions to the wagon can give accurate reads.

Thor and PV are town and I'll explain why when I have a computer.

[Thor665]

I exude town from my pores, so that's hardly a brilliant deduction.

Though it's good to know two town are voting you, I like where this wagon is headed...

[Bricktoes]

BK, why did you only vote Psyche at Ascosmist's prompting, continue to focus on why Ascosmist is scummy for about five posts, only explain your Psyche vote at prompting, and continue to make two posts about who Ascosmist isn't scum with? Why do 14 of your 19 posts have to deal with Ascosmist, even after you started suspecting Psyche?

[Bricktoes]

I know probably too much about DBZ, but I don't think it would be hard to fake knowledge or feign ignorance about it.

[Bricktoes]

And the flipside of those questions would be, Acosmist, why are you more worried about being uncertain whether BK is scummy or stupid than Psyche?

[MattP]

I exude town from my pores, so that's hardly a brilliant deduction.

Though it's good to know two town are voting you, I like where this wagon is headed...

Thor, who do you think is scummier, me or Acosmist?

[Thor665]

At this stage, pretty indifferent on the level of scum between you.
Give me some time and I'll start wailing about one over the other though, I suspect.

[JohnnyFarrar]

"Bus" seemed to fit the joke better. I didn't even know that's what it meant. I had no reads on anyone but I didn't like that we were getting that many votes on someone before everyone showed up.

[MattP]

Though it's good to know two town are voting you, I like where this wagon is headed...

Actually I'mma speculate a bit.

If Acosmist is scum:
There will be at least one scum on my wagon (including people like you just talking about my wagon) trying to misdirect the lynch to save Acosmist.

If Acosmist is town:
There will be no scum on my wagon since Acosmist is an easy mislynch, they have no reason to flip over to me, and then yes, it is a town-led wagon. No scum would switch to my wagon to save Acosmisttown to gain towncred because I'm town, and therefore they would gain nothing more from a switch to me. The only reason for a scum on my wagon would be to split up scum votes, and I don't think that's a valid enough reason.

I think that it is possible that Acosmist is scum and the flip happened from Acosmistscum to mescum based off of a L-1 vote, which can I say why the fuck would a scum be bold enough to make an L-1 vote on the second page of a game, but whatever.

However, I don't think Acosmist is scum, based off of how heavily he threatened anyone that voted him:

This is a post you are not going to want to have made.

Lynch BK after Psyche, folks. Thanks. I know you'll obey me when I flip.

Now, do you want to be lynched today or do you want to kiss my ring?

And I have never seen scum do this, only town, because immature town want revenge for their mislynches and scum don't worry about that so much since they know they're guilty. Scum could try these revenge posts to gain towncred, but I don't think they would do it with such frequency. Acosmist reads immature town. Therefore, the first couple people on my wagon are probtown, as well as Acosmist.

So,

Unvote: Acosmist

Townreads:
Acosmist
Thor
Yates

I switch my townread with PV with one on Yates.

Also, yates, it was reckless play but reckless play gets you the most genuine scum/townreads.

[Bricktoes]

Acomist, you've scumslipped on page one

Care to elaborate on the scumslip and why you thought the fake daykill was a good idea?

[Psyche]

Acomist, you've scumslipped on page one

Care to elaborate on the scumslip and why you thought the fake daykill was a good idea?

I was being deliberately excessively grandiose to field reactions.