NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[DeasVail]

What does rach have to do with your claim?

[Code_X]

Also I'm a doctor and I protected LLD last night (she was a large townread of mine)

Since Andrew94 claimed to shoot her I was wondering if anyone would also claim to have shot her but nobody did. So that probably means that andrew lied about his claim somewhere because I think he must be a strongman or something.

I waited before claiming this to see if any other shooters stepped forward.

So rachmarie is either lying or at least hasnt told the whole truth.

I'm lost.

Rach Marie replaced TML the Cop.

Also, why with a Cop claim and Vig claim would you claim Doc now. Have you bread-crumbed it before? It doesn't make no sense.

[VisMaior]

No, that makes sense. I am strongman. redff should be clear now.

[redFF]

yeah I meant vismaior not rach

why didn't you claim strogman earlier?

I don't think vis is town, but im willing to hold off until ogml is lynched.

[redFF]

I claimed it because Vis said he was only a vig, when I had a counterclaim to that.

[VisMaior]

I didnt think it would be important. Also, why do you think im not town?

[redFF]

Because you lied in your claim?

[VisMaior]

I didnt lie. I just omitted things, like how many bulets i got left.

[redFF]

why omit the strongman?

[VisMaior]

because my predecessor also omitted it, and Im not up to speed yet, so I could not know if there was a reason for it.

[Code_X]

How common is this role out of interest?

[redFF]

i've seen strongman sk , never vig. There would need to be a reason for it, i.e scum having a protective role.

[Code_X]

Yeah I can see it as a mafia type role. Hitman say.

Thing is three kills suggests there is a vig?

[redFF]

Well if we go by the 2 scumteam theory then one scumteam could have a 1 shot strongman kill, I've seen something similar to that before.

I just don't see a town strongman vig as likely unless there are scum protection roles in the game.

[redFF]

I don't like how he called me clear, either.

I mean if he's a town strongman he has to be thinking scum have protective roles, and I claimed protecting a scum member. I mean if I was him I wouldn't be calling me confirmed town, I'd be pushing for my lynch. Yet he calls me confirmed town. I dunno if it's to buddy or what, but that seems very scummy. He doesn't want to attack, only to pacify.

[DeasVail]

Ok, so I can only be in this game for one more week before I'll have to replace out. Sorry about this. I do have lots of free time at the moment though, so I will try to clarify my thoughts on players over the next few days if I am not replaced in the meantime.

[RachMarie]

Ok I am kinda lost here what is a strongman? Is it listed in the Wiki? I am familiar with a standard SK. Obviously someone killed LLD and was someone who figured out she was mafia even though she had investigative immunity.

[DeasVail]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Strongman

The theory arises from LLD, who was apparently protected by RedFF, dying.

[RachMarie]

Which brings me to my next question:

@ Red why were you protecting LLD? I know I was totally confused (which is why I looked up Mafia Godfather by the innocent on her since I totally felt in reading those 100 odd pages that she was scum?) I am pretty sure that is why TML investigated her because he thought she was scum. Why he outed himself without a guilty I do not know. I would have waited til I definitely had a guilty first or as in Newbie 1222 where I outed because the doc was NKed and I then knew that Ghosty was fake claiming for sure since Newbie games can't have 3 PRs in them. So for all intensive purposes in that game it was the same as a Guilty.

[redFF]

LLD has been, pretty publicly, one of my biggest town reads all game.

[redFF]

she got me pretty good, ay.

[RachMarie]

It is possible to be wrong, I know I have been in games, so that is a reasonable answer. Plus of course it is easier as a replacement to come in and say why did people not see she was scum. I might not have seen it as easily if I had been here from the start. However I need a bit more than just vote OMGL, before I am willing to sheep you. I also still want to here from people on the other wagon especially DLG.

[PeregrineV]

Ok, so I can only be in this game for one more week before I'll have to replace out. Sorry about this. I do have lots of free time at the moment though, so I will try to clarify my thoughts on players over the next few days if I am not replaced in the meantime.

Searching for replacement for DeasVail.

[Benmage]

That is interesting..... with the lie it is almost certainly a nontown role.

It does raise the possibility of a 2 team scum .... but I would've expected crosskills by now.... if there is 2 teams I'd wager SC is scum, thinking I was opposing scum.

Butttt I think he's an sk. That said I wanna play sk pet and direct the shot.

Bbl. When on a computer.

[VisMaior]

I did not lie.

I think redff is town because he claimed. It would not make sense for scum doc to claim like that.