Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[springlullaby]

Day 4 votecount 4

(0) Yosarian2:

(0) shos:

(0) Zar:

(0) Magua:

(3) Nuwen :

Yosarian2, charter , Vi,

(2) charter:

Nuwen, shos,

(2) Vi:

Magua, Zar,

(0) Not voting :

With 7 players, 4 votes are required to lynch.

Deadline reminder: the deadline is set to

Friday June the 22th.

Countdown:

(expired on 2012-06-22 12:00:00)

[Vi]

Hey Magua. Watch this.
Vote: Nuwen (L-1)
etc.

I watched that, and then I watched this, and by the time I was done, I didn't know what was going on anymore, but I knew it was good.

Was that second sentence a game-related comment, O Envied Taster of Duck Cooked in Honey and Garlic?

Also,

Countdown: 1 day, 0 hours, 5 minutes

All the going around in circles is fun and everything, but it's time to get down to brass tacks.

[shos]

I will be waiting for Nuwen to enlighten us with something. if he doesn't send those questions to the mod, I will hammer. I *should* be getting up before deadline tomorrow.

[Nuwen]

I work late, late today and don't have time to say more than this wagon fucking reeks. Votes on me are

two scum

and the third party and the guy who has been tunneled on my role slot since about page 30 or so because my play doesn't seem close enough to Back Room (that was the big first thing, right?).

NO ONE is asking HOW THE FUCK I could be scum with Furcolow, the most basic question of all. I've poured a LOT of effort into pointing out the possibilities matrixes for the current gamestate, caught your fucking scum, and my reward is for town-reads to crossvote each other while the neutral threatens a deadline hammer.

[Yosarian2]

NO ONE is asking HOW THE FUCK I could be scum with Furcolow, the most basic question of all.

Ok, why couldn't you be scum with furcolow? You did join the wagon after I got it rolling, but as Vi pointed out, you hadn't voted anyone before that point all day. It would make sense for you to bus Furcolow when you did.

I've poured a LOT of effort into pointing out the possibilities matrixes for the current gamestate, caught your fucking scum, and my reward is for town-reads to crossvote each other while the neutral threatens a deadline hammer.

Except I'm town, and everyone can see that If you really think chamber is scum, then tell me who his scum buddy is likely to be at this point, since he can only be scum if there are two scum left. Explain to me why he's a better lynch then you are. Your whole theory was basically "furcolow wasn't a scum rolecop so the other guy who claimed flavor cop must be the scum rolecop", but that doesn't follow at all; even if furcolow wasn't a scum rolecop, that doesn't actually say anything about chamber at all.

Also, why haven't you used your claimed ability yet today? There's only about 24 hours until lynch here.

[shos]

Nuwen, when you get back home send the mod those questions.

Yos, Nuwen was the one who found the flaw in furc's play which made me vote furc, for example. I doubt furc is scum. I still want to lynch charter. what makes you so adamant that he is town?

[Magua]

@shos:

How many mafia do you think are still alive?

[shos]

2.

[Magua]

I wonder if I should hammer or not. on the one hand, if we lynch scum, then I'm pretty sure town will prevail, and so will I. on the other hand, if we lynch town, people might want to lynch me to prevent me rejoining mafia or something alike..and I'm pretty sure nuwen will flip town..

Explain the thought process behind this sentence, please.

[shos]

As a survivor, I really shouldn't care about who wins as long as I am alive. since I am BP, I only have to fear being lynched; if I'm not lynched, I win whatever happens. If we lynch scum, cool. but if we lynch townnuwen, which I think is the case, then if game doesn't end, I just might be lynched you know, so that in the future I won't be able to quickhammer with the scums - I persume you guys won't trust me to not hammer-in-any-chance-I-get.

that is why I am avoiding the hammer now. we're THIS close to deadline and so I probably will hammer eventually, but this is why I asked nuwen to use his ability as quickly as possible.

[shos]

actually, now the thought came to my mind, remember how I said that there is probably just one mafia left after the night ended quickly?

right. new theory coming.

[Magua]

But if you think there are two living mafia, and we lynch town, town wouldn't have majority and couldn't lynch you even if it wanted to.

Re: one mafia theory: one mafia theory makes your charter vote super bad.

[shos]

Yos is an SK.
Furc is mafia along with someone else, preferably charter.

Night one:
Yos kills elmo. mafia kill doesn't work. it is either on Vi or on me, or on elmo. that is plenty of options for the night 1 missing kill.
Night two:
Yos kills Parama. Parama fakeclaimed to have info that Yos killed, right? he drew lots of attention to him. so Yos kills him and gets off the hook.
Furc and other scum kill Kanye. don't have anything in mind for why.
Night three: scum try to kill Vi again, now knowing that Hiraki protected him N1 and therefore he will not survive again. Yos doesn't shoot in fear of being tracked.

I'll respond to you in a sec magua

[shos]

But if you think there are two living mafia, and we lynch town, town wouldn't have majority and couldn't lynch you even if it wanted to.

Re: one mafia theory: one mafia theory makes your charter vote super bad.

why shouldn't scum help voting me.? I'm BP, you know.

and yes it does make it look super bad, but the theory is not the only one possible~

[Magua]

Yos is an SK.
Furc is mafia along with someone else, preferably charter.

charter can't be in a 2-man mafia due to Zar's report.

Yos kills Parama. Parama fakeclaimed to have info that Yos killed, right? he drew lots of attention to him. so Yos kills him and gets off the hook.

Parama fakeclaimed a guilty on Hiraki. Yos badgered him to recant.

So consider the possibilities:
Before Parama recants, Yos-SK has no reason to care about a guilty on Hiraki. Lynch Hiraki, shoot Parama would be a fine plan; or lynch Hiraki and when he flips town, a Parama lynch is in the bag.
After Parama recants, Yos-SK has no reason to want or need Parama dead.

Night three: scum try to kill Vi again, now knowing that Hiraki protected him N1 and therefore he will not survive again. Yos doesn't shoot in fear of being tracked.

If Yos-SK is worried about being tracked, why does he simply not kill Zar?

why shouldn't scum help voting me.? I'm BP, you know.

It's *specifically* because you're a survivor.

Or: if you are a survivor, and there are two remaining mafia, and we lynch town today and town gets shot tonight, then tomorrow you can essentially lay down a vote and say "This person is getting lynched" and it'll happen -- either you lay your vote down on town and both mafia pile on, or you lay your vote on mafia and when there's no quicklynch, town will pile on.

[shos]

about charter: correct, my miss.

bout parama: wasn't that what caused Yos to fullclaim? If I recall correctly, this is what Yos said lately?

and if Yos is an SK, then he shouldn't care much about WHO gets lynched as long as it isn't him. then kill the others. am I wrong? missing somethinga gain?

mhm. why is Zar alive. that's a good question. maybe Zar is the mafia with furc? remind me why we had Zar as conftown?


uh..well...about that last paragraph. that is correct. so I win either way if we lynch town, and it's 50-50 for everyone else.
meh, all those speculations are just for endgame lol.

VOTE: Nuwen

that's the hammer. if he's scum good for us. if he's town, then no townie will vote me because it'll get them game over; so I think I'm safe.?

meh. let's all cross fingers!

[shos]

pfft. sorry Nuwen and stuff. I actually kinda hope you're town, lol.

[Vi]

I work late, late today and don't have time to say more than this wagon fucking reeks. Votes on me are

two scum

and the third party and the guy who has been tunneled on my role slot since about page 30 or so because my play doesn't seem close enough to Back Room (that was the big first thing, right?).

Well no, but it was a nice aside. How is it that Back Room is only just now coming out in conversation?

Or: if you are a survivor, and there are two remaining mafia, and we lynch town today and town gets shot tonight, then tomorrow you can essentially lay down a vote and say "This person is getting lynched" and it'll happen -- either you lay your vote down on town and both mafia pile on, or you lay your vote on mafia and when there's no quicklynch, town will pile on.

uh..well...about that last paragraph. that is correct. so I win either way if we lynch town, and it's 50-50 for everyone else.
meh, all those speculations are just for endgame lol.

VOTE: Nuwen

that's the hammer. if he's scum good for us. if he's town, then no townie will vote me because it'll get them game over; so I think I'm safe.?

meh. let's all cross fingers!

pfft. sorry Nuwen and stuff. I actually kinda hope you're town, lol.

...

...It's not all bad. If Nuwen flips scum. But that's not normally what happens at times like these.

Whatever. I may never get my duck cooked in honey and garlic, but etc.

Thanks for explaining that Survivor is an

anti-Town role

, Magua.

[Magua]

If Nuwen is town, I'm 100000000000000000000000000000% that Vi is scum.

If Nuwen is scum, I could go either way on Vi.

Think Yos2 is town.
Think Zar is town.

Both of these are based on play, not on mechanics.

Think shos is pretty much what he claims. Do not think he's scum, really do not think he's SK.

Regardless of the Nuwen flip, I fully expect to get shot tonight. Zar, if you track me, I'm going to eat your babies.

[shos]

if it matters, tomorrow I will try to vote a scum anyway, lol. we'll have to examine the night actions

nuwen, if you're town, I'd really suggest you ask all those questions hehe


Zar will probably die at night, unless someone saves him *hint hint lol lol* (I'll explain tomorrow). anyway, Zar should track Vi, charter, or yos.

[springlullaby]

Day 4 FINAL vOTECOUNT

(0) Yosarian2:

(0) shos:

(0) Zar:

(0) Magua:

(4)

Nuwen :

Yosarian2, charter , Vi, shos,

(2) charter:

Nuwen,

(2) Vi:

Magua, Zar,

(0) Not voting :

With 7 players, 4 votes are required to lynch.

Deadline reminder: the deadline is set to

Friday June the 22th.

Countdown:

(expired on 2012-06-22 12:00:00)

Nuwen has been lynched, lynch scene incoming.

[springlullaby]

T

he Phantom was an elusive, formidable threat; hard to capture as he took the form of innocents and possessed their hearts, filling them with his poisonous hatred. Motivated by a malicious rage that knew no bounds, and skill of deception that knew no rival, he nonetheless met his downfall by an unpredictable turn of fate.

Or maybe was it in the order of things for the villainous to fail before forces of good?

'Ha', the Phantom decreed as those who had unmasked him proceeded to banish him, 'in this absurd world only the weak minded believe in such order. Karma, blablablah'

'Today I fall, but tomorrow I will rise again, stronger, crueller. Because evil is eternal and knows not the enmity of time.'

'And if today you see me defeated, be it an admonition to your souls: you can, and will perish too."

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Day 4 ends.

Nuwen,

Belphégor, the Phantom of the Louvre

, was destroyed by the authorities. He was a mafia phantom.

Night 4 starts now.

The deadline is set to Monday June the 25th.

(expired on 2012-06-25 12:00:00)[/align]

[springlullaby]

T

he sun was bright this morning, it rose high and revealed the hidden blue hue of the grey roofs of Paris. Ah,

la belle vie, l'été, le temps des cerises,

at last! Surely even the most die-hard, elegantly and existentially pessimist Parisians couldn't resist the naive beauty of a cheerful, sunny day?

One couldn't be more wrong, every front-line in the news was decrying the outrageous dragging on of the Louvre case, blaming the politicians for the drastic cuts in the budget of the Ministère de l'Intérieur.

One more crime had been committed just last night, and the suspects pool was running thin. The last murder was just as much a puzzle, if not more, as the previous crimes as the authorities had no lead.

Will this case ever be solved or will the massacre continue?

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Nigh 4 ends.

Magua,

Antinous Mondragone

, was reduced to pieces. He was a town benevolent god.

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Day 5 starts now.

The deadline is set to Sunday July the 8th.

(expired on 2012-07-08 12:00:00)

Again, apologies for the delay

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[shos]

when I pmed magua I also asked him to crumb to me his role. he crumbed be and then JEE-sus, lol. that's B-G. I thought he was a bodyguard; what's a benevolent god?

anyway. anyone with new role information to hand us scum on a plate?

[Yosarian2]

All right. So either there is only one scum group left, or there are two and they both targeted the doctor. Or else one targeted the doctor and the doctor stopped the other kill.

I'm kind of having trouble seeing who would make a logical scum buddy for Nuwen at this point. Both Vi and Charter seem unlikely, for basically the same reason; either way, it would have involved an unbelivable amount of distancing. I'm not sure who that leaves, though, unless we only have a SK alive now.

Zar, do you have any useful results for us from last night?