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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:03 am

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vijay2vasandani wrote:Yeah, as Tammy says, Amished tell applys to thinking you're predecessor was scummy, not necessarily a bad player.

Leela came from where? Has the slot been uberlurking?


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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:33 am

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DAY ONE


jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 1


MOI
6 - vijay2vansandani,
Pizza
,
Benmage
,
Fate
,
pappums rat
,Yates
Korlash
2 - Istark,
Korlash
,
vijay 1 - Shotgun
IStark 1 - Knox
Jester 1 - PeregrineV
Knox 1 -
MOI
,


Not Voting


The Jester

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 2


MOI
4 -
Pizza
,
Benmage
,
pappums rat
,Yates
Korlash
2 - Istark,
Korlash
,
vijay 1 - Shotgun
IStark 1 - Knox
Jester 1 - PeregrineV
Benmage
1 -
MOI
,
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Not Voting


The Jester
Fate
,

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 3


MOI
3 -
Benmage
,
pappums rat
,Yates
Korlash
2 - Istark,
Korlash
,
Pizza
2 - Shotgun,
Fate
,
IStark 1 - Knox
Jester 1 - PeregrineV
Benmage
1 -
MOI
,
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,

Not Voting


The Jester
Pizza
,

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Knox (1) has been prodded


jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 4


Rat 3 -
MOI
,
Korlash
,Mini-Librarian
Pizza
3 - Shotgun,
Fate
,
pappums rat

MOI
2 -
Benmage
, ,Yates
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
Korlash
1 - PereV


Not Voting


MattP
Pizza


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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 4


Pizza
4 - Shotgun,
Fate
,
pappums rat
, MattP
Rat 3 -
MOI
,
Korlash
,Mini-Librarian
MOI
2 -
Benmage
, ,Yates
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
MattP 1 - PereV

Not Voting



Pizza


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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 5

Rat 4 -
MOI
,
Korlash
,Mini-Librarian,
Pizza
,
Pizza
3 - Shotgun,
Fate
, MattP,
MOI
3 -
Benmage
, Yates,
pappums rat
,
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
MattP 1 - PereV

Not Voting





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Day 1 Vote Count 6

Rat 4 -
MOI
,
Korlash
,Mini-Librarian,
Pizza
,
MOI
4 -
Benmage
, Yates,
pappums rat
,MattP,
Pizza
2 - Shotgun,
Fate
,
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
MattP 1 - PereV

Not Voting




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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 7

Rat 3 -
MOI
,Mini-Librarian,
Pizza
,
MOI
6 -
Benmage
, Yates,
pappums rat
,MattP,
Fate
,
Korlash
,
Pizza
1 - Shotgun,
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
MattP 1 - PereV

Not Voting




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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 7


Rat 2 - Mini-Librarian,
Pizza
,
MOI
6 -
Benmage
, Yates,
pappums rat
,MattP,
Korlash
,Shotgun,
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
MattP 1 - PereV
Korlash
2 -
Fate
,
MOI
,

Not Voting




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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count 8


MOI
7 -
Benmage
, Yates,
pappums rat
,MattP,
Korlash
,Shotgun,vijay2vansandani,
Rat 2 - Mini-Librarian,
Pizza
,
Mini-Librarian 1 - Zeek
MattP 1 - PereV
Korlash
2 -
Fate
,
MOI
,

Not Voting


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DAY TWO


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Day 2 VC 1


Korlash
3 -
pappums rat
, The Mini-Librarian,Tammy
vijay2vansandani 3 -
Korlash
,drmyshotgun, Yates
Yates 2 - vijay2vansandani, Scott Brosius


Not voting


PeregrineV
Pizza
dudes7

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[/b]


jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 2 VC 2


Korlash
3 -
pappums rat
, The Mini-Librarian,Tammy
vijay2vansandani 3 -
Korlash
,drmyshotgun, Yates
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
Pizza
1 - Scott Brosius,


Not voting


PeregrineV
Pizza
dudes7

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Pizza
has asked to be replaced. Search begins


jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 2 VC 3


Korlash
4 -
pappums rat
, The Mini-Librarian,Tammy,
splitfarvlet

vijay2vansandani 3 -
Korlash
,HezLucky, Yates
HezLucky 2 - PereV,Scott Brosius,
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
Not voting


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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 2 VC 4


Korlash
5 -
pappums rat
, The Mini-Librarian,Tammy,
splitfarvlet
,HezLucky
vijay2vansandani 2 -
Korlash
, Yates
HezLucky 2 - PereV,Scott Brosius,
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani,
Not voting


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jasonT1981 wrote:
Day 2 VC 6


Korlash
6 -
pappums rat
, The Mini-Librarian,
splitfarvlet
, HezLucky,vijay2vansandani,Tammy,
vijay2vansandani 2 -
Korlash
, Yates
HezLucky 1 - PereV,


Not voting 1 -
Scott Brosius


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If anyone needs a prod, bold the request in thread or send me a PM. Thanks guys


DAY THREE


jasonT1981 wrote:
Vote Count 1 Day 3


Scott B - 2 PereV,
splitfarvlet

Split 2 - Scott Brosius,vijay2vansandani,
vijay2vansandani 1 - Yates,
PereV 1 - HezLucky ,

Not voting


Tammy
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jasonT1981 wrote:
Vote Count 1 Day 3


Scott B - 2 PereV,
splitfarvlet

Split 2 - vijay2vansandani,Tammy
vijay2vansandani 1 - Yates,
PereV 2 - HezLucky ,Scott Brosius,

Not voting



The Mini-Librarian

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Vote Count 1 Day 4

Inte 4 - vijay2vansandani,Tammy, PereV,Yates,
PereV 2 - HezLucky ,Scott Brosius,
Scott B - 1
Inte

Not voting

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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:13 am

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^^^Correction to the vote count. On day three, in vote count one I was actually voting for Scott Brosius. Jason missed it.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:13 pm

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inte wrote:
Tammy wrote:I knew you wouldn't have a read on him Hez, I was just wondering what you're first impression was.

Still feeling like Pere is an easy mislynch.


can you explain more? his posting has been largely unhelpful in actually gaining insight on players alignment. most of his early play seems to be arguing with MoI and Korlash rather than trying to gather a real read

we can talk this out beb


I talked about this earlier. I agree with all of the suspicions on Pere. I didn't like his interactions with MoI on day one. I didn't like that on day two it felt like he was directing suspicion towards Korlash but didn't seem willing to vote for him. He has been a bit unhelpful in gaining insight on players.

However, I think that Pere plays this way for the most part and is naturally suspicious. Pere and I have one completed game together and I thought he was scum the whole time. I thought that he lurked a lot and only came up a bit before deadline to ask some questions and snipe from the sidelines. I was convinced he was scum. He wasn't though, he was the cop and innocent. Since I misread him so terribly there and I'm not seeing a huge difference in his play now it's throwing me off. And there are some things that he's doing now that he's receiving suspicion that reminds me of how he acted receiving suspicion, which makes me wonder if he's town even more.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:32 pm

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inte wrote:my Yates read is because of a game we played together where pizzadudes played the EXACT same way and it looks to me like hes completely disregarding his experience with pizza to back up a "scum read" on him



Do you have suspicions about Yates that isn't based on his suspicion of Pizza?
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:56 pm

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inte wrote:my Yates read is because of a game we played together where pizzadudes played the EXACT same way and it looks to me like hes completely disregarding his experience with pizza to back up a "scum read" on him

This is weak sauce. I have exactly 0 completed games with Pizza. As far as I can recall he was only in one other game with me. And, you are right that his play was similar only in so much as he lurked, made uninformed posts, then replaced out. So I have seen a grand total of MAYBE 30 posts? That isn't
nearly
enough for meta knowledge on a player.

Also, as Pere has accurately pointed out, this is more a game of Town reads than scum reads right now. I have had Pizza/Split in my suspicious pool this whole game. After my POE post, I would have voted Split but he was site absent then requested replacement. The only reason I was going to vote the slot anyway was because it is, by my math, a 67% scum chance [at worst].

Show your work:
Spoiler:
8 players left - Yates = 7 scum suspects
7 - TML - Tammy = 5 suspects

2 scum in Hez, Inte [Pizza/Split], Pere, Scott, VJ

-2 of those slots have become Town to me = 2 scum in 3 slots
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:01 pm

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which of those 2 have become town to you
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:55 pm

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I'm playing two cards close to my vest for strategic reasons. Hint: not your slot.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:23 pm

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can we get some more noobs in here to comment
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:28 pm

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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:16 am

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Meh...going back to my original strongest scum read
vote: Scott Brosius
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:15 am

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rainbow dash replaces Mini Lib, thank you
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:51 am

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@Inte- on a personal note, I love vote count analysis and I really like you posting all the VCs for that to be done.

On the game side, you haven't done any analysis on it. As in, so what? Since you did give yourself high marks as a I'd like to see this fairly soon, or a reason why not.

Also, please comment on my Hez stuff here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4082983

@Mod- request 3 or more day extension for 2 replacements to catch up and for discussion with them to occur.


@Rainbow Dash- Welcome! Are you town this game?

If going back to original suspicion, then Hez lucky reprieve hasn't panned out like I planned.

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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03 am

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NEW DEADLINE


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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:39 am

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Thats a relatively short deadline.

Luckily fastest in Equestria and I have the first 10 or so pages skimmed already. Will be caught up soon-ish
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:21 am

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Ok day one done.

DMS/Peregrine/Pizza/Yates all bugging me... actually kinda think v2v is town which apparently matches up with TLB a bit. No clue how rat flipped town let alone was not lynched.

More to come later. Would vote DMS slot at this point though. His push to keep attention on the MoI wagon when it was starting to move elsewhere is really scummy.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:24 am

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Deadline is Friday, because I will be away from Friday night - Monday.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:44 am

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@mod - can we have a vote count, please :)
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:45 am

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Rainbow - since you only read the first page can you tell me what you thought of Knox?
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:46 am

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^^^when I say page...I mean day of course *have a brain swear*
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:39 am

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Amished is probably only viable for new players anyway, since mostly everyone knows about it. inte has improved the slot.

Not much of note has happened, I still have similar sentiments.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:56 am

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Tammy wrote:Rainbow - since you only read the first page can you tell me what you thought of Knox?


Doesnt matter, SB is probably town so replacing a double habitual lurker slot doesnt effect that read.

I want a dead DMS/Peregrine super bad on page 30 right now. Dead pizza would also be awesome.

Reading this page too, Amished tell is complete bull. Derp in certain departments I just replaced proves that point nicely. Only worst tells out there may be 'overreaction' and 'defensive'
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:05 am

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Why is SB town?

And, I agreed with you on DMS, but have you got to Hezlucky yet? I've been reading him as pretty town.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:22 pm

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I started responding to posts 1090 and 1096 with serious snark before it sunk in that you have only read up through Day 1! Here are my edited responses:

Rainbowdash wrote:Doesnt matter, SB is probably town so replacing a double habitual lurker slot doesnt effect that read.
Agreed. I actually had Knox Town. SB's early posts were terribad and moved the slot to scummy. He has recovered and is a weak Town read for me right now.

Rainbowdash wrote:I want a dead DMS/Peregrine super bad on page 30 right now.
I will not be voting Pere today. Once you are completely caught up, you will see why. [Spoiler alert: post 1021]

Rainbowdash wrote:Dead pizza would also be awesome.
This, I can still support. Post 1071 [as explained in my 1080] looks like complete caught scum desperation rubbish. [Also, the "empty slot" argument attempt looks staged and awful.]

Tammy wrote:Why is SB town?
Post 1021 explains how I arrived at a weak Town read on SB.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:50 pm

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Vote Count 1 Day 5


Inte 2 - vijay2vansandani, Yates,
PereV 2 - HezLucky ,Scott Brosius,
Yates 1 - Inte
HezLucky 1 - PereV,

Not voting

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