The game of the year: town won!

[DeltaWave]

fair point

UNVOTE:

VOTE: deltawave

if you're playing for the town here, no worries. just get funkybike killed instead and all's well. you kill trevor or anyone else that's a townread and it's a scumclaim.

Trevor is dying if my lynch happens.

[kondi2424]

He's bluffing, and if not, still not town.

[DeltaWave]

He's bluffing, and if not, still not town.

[kondi2424]

[DeltaWave]

Like I said, lynching me is a waste of time but by doing so, you're giving me a kill and I'm going to use that to my discretion.

[kondi2424]

He's bluffing, and if not, still not town.

[TeChNoWC]

Delta, do you actually think Trevor is scum? Or are you threatening to kill him because he's making you mad?

Can't you not see town concern behind his questioning you? Because I sure as hell can.

[DeltaWave]

wait.

UNVOTE: deltawave

Since we have a confirmation that SOMEONE has redirected, and no one counterclaimed kair, why does it make sense to go through with this lynch? we know he isnt lying so... and if this power exists, why not let them protect eachother rather than have them out eachother to be NK'd?

its early.

^^^ This right here.

I just noticed this post but Trollie understands what's going on here.

P-Edit: I think he's scum. I was trying to figure out reasons why I haven't been nightkilled and I could come up with two. One is that scum was avoiding me and instead preferring to shoot possible investigative roles. The other is that scum wanted to out the whole team, which would provide them with shittons of information on town PR distribution. Trevor's questioning sounds like it's squarely in option 2.

[Staeg]

Yeah, I see no harm in testing DW's buddies' power.

unvote
vote: DW

[mykonian]

votecount

funkybike1 (5): zajnet, jackal711, TechnoWC, syndromeofadown, trevor
deltawave (4): Spyrex, kondi2424, petapan, staeg
Mastermind of Sin (3): petapan, theamatuer
kondi (1): redff
trevor (1): deltawave

[Trevor]

Hey deltawave, you realize I'm obvious town and that a lot of others agree with my theory? Do you realize that if I die, you have zero chance of surviving?

[DeltaWave]

Hey deltawave, you realize I'm obvious town and that a lot of others agree with my theory? Do you realize that if I die, you have zero chance of surviving?

If you try to lynch me again, I'll use the next kill at my discretion as well.

Either way, I don't see a better target than you right now.

[Trevor]

I'm not even trying to lynch you. Do you honestly have no mafia reads?

[DeltaWave]

OK just make delta claim all angels right now or we lynch him for not having any partners

I'm not even trying to lynch you. Do you honestly have no mafia reads?

It's funny how you changed your tune from "make delta claim all angels now or we lynch him" to "I'm not even trying to lynch you" after I say that you'll be the target of the kill if that lynch happens.

I do have scum reads, you're just the strongest. Your behavior is consistent from what I expect out of scum and this whole "encouraging people to lynch DW without voting DW" is telling enough.

[Trevor]

Someone proposed a better idea of you outing one partner to make sure that you actually have a partner. It seems all of your "scumhunting" is solely based on the recent events of today.

[DeltaWave]

They can out themselves if they want but like I said, I'm not outing anyone unless they approve of it.

Regardless, what benefit would there be if they claimed? I don't get it and I won't advocate for them claiming unless that's shown.

[Trevor]

The fact that if even only 1 person claims angel, we get another person clear of being mafia and that you are not some solo-3rd party/scum bluffing.

[TeChNoWC]

The fact that if even only 1 person claims angel, we get another person clear of being mafia and that you are not some solo-3rd party/scum bluffing.

How? If someone were to claim angel buddy with him, they could simply both be mafia together.

[DeltaWave]

It doesn't matter if they're clear of mafia or not because they're going to be saved if they get lynched. All things considered, since they can't be lynched, outing them only helps scum. Do you see why I think you're scum?

As for the other point, do you really think scum would have a role like this and play it like I've been playing it? If I was scum, OR a third party, it wouldn't make sense to claim angel. The proper play would be to silently use it to save mafia who get lynched or treat it like an SK kill. Neither has happened, which makes the third party or mafia theory bunk.

[Trevor]

The fact that if even only 1 person claims angel, we get another person clear of being mafia and that you are not some solo-3rd party/scum bluffing.

How? If someone were to claim angel buddy with him, they could simply both be mafia together.

No mafia is going to have multiple lynch overturners. Besides, if either of them eventually flip mafia, we get the partner immediately. Considering there are 5 dead goons in a 50 person game, I'm speculating there are no more than 2 mafia alive, considering the lynch required only 10 people to lynch for most of this game. I'll call any angel team of 3 or more clear of being mafia, and if only 2 are claimed and they do end up being mafia, they would have to work until 5 person lylo.

Outing them helps town, do you realize that we're trying to POE the last 1/2 mafia?

[DeltaWave]

The fact that if even only 1 person claims angel, we get another person clear of being mafia and that you are not some solo-3rd party/scum bluffing.

How? If someone were to claim angel buddy with him, they could simply both be mafia together.

No mafia is going to have multiple lynch overturners. Besides, if either of them eventually flip mafia, we get the partner immediately. Considering there are 5 dead goons in a 50 person game, I'm speculating there are no more than 2 mafia alive, considering the lynch required only 10 people to lynch for most of this game. I'll call any angel team of 3 or more clear of being mafia, and if only 2 are claimed and they do end up being mafia, they would have to work until 5 person lylo.

Outing them helps town, do you realize that we're trying to POE the last 1/2 mafia?

Well, if you try to lynch them, it will fail. That will help in POE just as much if they claimed.

[Trevor]

So why did you use your power and claim EARLY INTO D1 unnecessarily while you are so reluctant to out your partners?

[theamatuer]

The fact that if even only 1 person claims angel, we get another person clear of being mafia and that you are not some solo-3rd party/scum bluffing.

How? If someone were to claim angel buddy with him, they could simply both be mafia together.

No mafia is going to have multiple lynch overturners. Besides, if either of them eventually flip mafia, we get the partner immediately. Considering there are 5 dead goons in a 50 person game, I'm speculating there are no more than 2 mafia alive, considering the lynch required only 10 people to lynch for most of this game. I'll call any angel team of 3 or more clear of being mafia, and if only 2 are claimed and they do end up being mafia, they would have to work until 5 person lylo.

Outing them helps town, do you realize that we're trying to POE the last 1/2 mafia?

Well, if you try to lynch them, it will fail. That will help in POE just as much if they claimed.

no it doesn't actually. it might just be them thinking the lynchees obvtown, and its more WIFOM than if one person just claimed directly.
Also your implication that the angels will only help overturn themselves really irks me the wrong way.

[Trevor]

Hey also where were your angel buddies when T-bone, Luffy and Hoopla were lynched? Did they all siteflake too?

[DeltaWave]

So why did you use your power and claim EARLY INTO D1 unnecessarily while you are so reluctant to out your partners?

That was the guy I replaced. We all formed an agreement that my slot would be the only one to come out, at least at that point, and the opinion hasn't changed.

As for the amateur, we will obviously NOT only protect ourselves. I'm saying that we will

definitely

protect ourselves if we are lynched.

Anyway, you can try to convince me all day long to out the other angels but I'm not going to against their will. Maybe they'll be persuaded by some arguments, who knows. But there's no threat to me here, since I'll survive any lynch that's put on me, and I'm not about to go back on our agreement not to reveal each other.

P-Edit: We're not going to stop every lynch that happens. If someone seems to be scum, that lynch is going through.