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Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:05 am

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DeltaWave wrote:Like I said, lynching me is a waste of time but by doing so, you're giving me a kill and I'm going to use that to my discretion.

if this is meant to discourage us from voting you it's having the opposite effect, hope this helps
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Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:12 am

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Hey I'm actually scared and I don't feel like dying for the stupidest fucking reason on day 7.
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Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:17 am

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yeah i know but this is akin to scum claiming super saint or the like, reads as a "fuck off don't lynch me or you'll be sorry" intimidation tactic and if he's telling the truth and is going to NOT kill the guy who's a general scumspect then he deserves to be hanged until dead
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Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:21 am

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petapan wrote:yeah i know but this is akin to scum claiming super saint or the like, reads as a "fuck off don't lynch me or you'll be sorry" intimidation tactic and if he's telling the truth and is going to NOT kill the guy who's a general scumspect then he deserves to be hanged until dead


Nope. I gave my reasons for selecting Trevor as the kill if I get lynched. This isn't an intimidation tactic.

Funkybike is probably going to get lynched anyway. If I use the kill it's going to be on someone who isn't likely to be lynched but seems scummy.
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Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:22 am

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I find it funny that out of every player here you cannot find any mafia except for me. Man you are incompetent.
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Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:35 am

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Trevor wrote:I find it funny that out of every player here you cannot find any mafia except for me. Man you are incompetent.

DeltaWave wrote:I do have scum reads, you're just the strongest. Your behavior is consistent from what I expect out of scum and this whole "encouraging people to lynch DW without voting DW" is telling enough.
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Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:37 am

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OK then out some of you reads jesus christ
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Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:43 am

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funkybike1 (5): zajnet, jackal711, TechnoWC, syndromeofadown, trevor
deltawave (4): Spyrex, kondi2424, petapan, staeg
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trevor (1): deltawave
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Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:45 am

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DeltaWave wrote:
petapan wrote:yeah i know but this is akin to scum claiming super saint or the like, reads as a "fuck off don't lynch me or you'll be sorry" intimidation tactic and if he's telling the truth and is going to NOT kill the guy who's a general scumspect then he deserves to be hanged until dead


Nope. I gave my reasons for selecting Trevor as the kill if I get lynched. This isn't an intimidation tactic.

Funkybike is probably going to get lynched anyway. If I use the kill it's going to be on someone who isn't likely to be lynched but seems scummy.

if you kill trevor it's a scumclaim, straight up
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Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:47 am

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Trevor wrote:OK then out some of you reads jesus christ


I already said I'd be down for a Staeg wagon

I'm still thinking about funky. The reason I voted him yesterday turned out not to be right so IDK about him.
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Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:47 am

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is it possible that an Angel is scum aligned?

if so then i understand the DW wagon, but if Angels are town roles then it seems very dumb
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Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:01 am

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TheTrollie wrote:is it possible that an Angel is scum aligned?

if so then i understand the DW wagon, but if Angels are town roles then it seems very dumb

The entire premise is that if Delta is town he can overturn.
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Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:08 am

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Trevor wrote:
TheTrollie wrote:is it possible that an Angel is scum aligned?

if so then i understand the DW wagon, but if Angels are town roles then it seems very dumb

The entire premise is that if Delta is town he can overturn.


You already know that I can overturn lynches. I did (well, my predecessor did) and nobody counter-claimed it. So saying "IF delta is town" makes no sense in this context, since it was already proven that I can overturn a lynch.
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Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:12 am

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It is currently in dispute if you even have partners, because if you don't, you are powerless.
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Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:15 am

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DeltaWave wrote:
Trevor wrote:
TheTrollie wrote:is it possible that an Angel is scum aligned?

if so then i understand the DW wagon, but if Angels are town roles then it seems very dumb

The entire premise is that if Delta is town he can overturn.


You already know that I can overturn lynches. I did (well, my predecessor did) and nobody counter-claimed it. So saying "IF delta is town" makes no sense in this context, since it was already proven that I can overturn a lynch.


but this is why i asked if angels can be scum roles. your argument falls apart if so, because even though you are an un-counter-claimed angel, that only shows that you are an angel, and not your alignment. If angel is a town-aligned role only, then you are correct. thats why I need someone to tell me the answer (trevor, not sure if you were trying to answer but if so, what you said was not very clear)
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Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:15 am

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DeltaWave wrote:
Trevor wrote:
TheTrollie wrote:is it possible that an Angel is scum aligned?

if so then i understand the DW wagon, but if Angels are town roles then it seems very dumb

The entire premise is that if Delta is town he can overturn.


You already know that I can overturn lynches. I did (well, my predecessor did) and nobody counter-claimed it. So saying "IF delta is town" makes no sense in this context, since it was already proven that I can overturn a lynch.


but this is why i asked if angels can be scum roles. your argument falls apart if so, because even though you are an un-counter-claimed angel, that only shows that you are an angel, and not your alignment. If angel is a town-aligned role only, then you are correct. thats why I need someone to tell me the answer (trevor, not sure if you were trying to answer but if so, what you said was not very clear)
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Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:31 am

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Trevor wrote:It is currently in dispute if you even have partners, because if you don't, you are powerless.


I don't get why this matters because nobody has come up with a cognizable reason for why I'd be scum in the first place.
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Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:39 am

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DeltaWave wrote:
Trevor wrote:It is currently in dispute if you even have partners, because if you don't, you are powerless.


I don't get why this matters because nobody has come up with a cognizable reason for why I'd be scum in the first place.

Your reluctance and the general uselessness of your slot
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Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:21 am

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HOLY SHIT! will one of you just answer my fucking question already? I dont care if you think it matters or not, I clearly do and need to know.
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Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:25 am

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This is stupid. Lynch funkybike. We can deal with DW later. Making him claim his potential partners is pointless because it doesn't actually help with PoE, but it does tell the scum who they are.
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Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:31 am

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TheTrollie wrote:HOLY SHIT! will one of you just answer my fucking question already? I dont care if you think it matters or not, I clearly do and need to know.

it's not explicitly town, as it's not a common role, so no.


Zajnet: the scum clearly don't give a rat's ass about deltawave or his partners and the way he's responding to pressure is not reassuring, to say the least
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Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:37 am

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wait
this angel group isn't even masons
they're unconfirmed neighbors.
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Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:39 am

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Killing DW SHOULD mean killing funky; it's not like his team needs the lynchstops as town in the first place.
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Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:44 am

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Let me see if I understand this correctly:

(1) if his lynch is redirected then that indicates DW is town since that would mean he has angel partners (and he wouldn't have to out them)
(2) if his lynch isn't redirected and DW is scum... we lynch scum

The problem I find with this is there's no point in testing (1) right now. I would agree maybe if there were fewer people alive, but there's 21 alive. There's still plenty of time to wait out and see if an angel gets nightkilled or has to claim later on to prove (1) without having to waste a redirect.

We should be focusing our efforts on lynching scum. Period. If you think DW is scum then go ahead, but if you're only voting him to confirm what could easily be confirmed naturally over the course of the game then just stop.
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Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:51 am

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if he's town then it's a town-directed kill

aka there is literally no drawback to doing so
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