The game of the year: town won!

[mykonian]

votecount

deltawave (6): Spyrex, kondi2424, petapan, staeg, thetrollie, TechnoWC
funkybike1 (4): zajnet, jackal711, syndromeofadown, trevor
Mastermind of Sin (1): theamatuer
kondi (1): redff
staeg (1): deltawave

[TeChNoWC]

myk, my vote is on deltawave.

[petapan]

zajnet
staeg
MoS
Sleepykrew
Deltawave
Zoraster
Ellibereth
~secret scum read~

shortlist for death, as taken from the playerlist, definitely not in this order

any of these i would consider acceptable shots

i do not particularly read funkybike as scum but i now other people do and that's never going to go away, so.

[DeltaWave]

Who's the secret scum read?

[Zajnet]

Zoraster's still alive?

VOTE: zoraster

Feel free to shoot him if you get lynched, DW.

[Trevor]

Anyone willing to go to SKrew? I'm not feeling FB1 anymore.

Vote: SKrew

Delta, I assume the angels have one shot per player? Correct me if I am wrong.

[Zajnet]

Anyone willing to go to SKrew? I'm not feeling FB1 anymore.

Vote: SKrew

Delta, I assume the angels have one shot per player? Correct me if I am wrong.

He just strongly implied that he has another shot.

SKrew hasn't done much lately, so yeah, I could be down to lynch him. He's on the list with Zoraster of people that can't make it to LyLo.

[DeltaWave]

Anyone willing to go to SKrew? I'm not feeling FB1 anymore.

Vote: SKrew

Delta, I assume the angels have one shot per player? Correct me if I am wrong.

Let's just put it this way: we have a bunch of shots at our disposal.

I'd prefer SKrew more than Funky but less than Staeg.

[petapan]

votecount

funkybike1 (5): zajnet, jackal711, TechnoWC, syndromeofadown, trevor
deltawave (5): Spyrex, kondi2424, petapan, staeg, thetrollie
Mastermind of Sin (2): petapan, theamatuer
kondi (1): redff
staeg (1): deltawave

this has my vote in 2 places, i'm not voting MoS anymore

[theamatuer]

Let me state some things.
1. there definitely exists 2 or more angels(including DW)
2. The angels arent all scum. So it's either an effective neighborhood, or an entirely different party.
3. Each angel has 1 shot in all cases except for a 2 person group. This is because of balance.
4. The 2nd party is viable, because of DW stating to protect the angels NO MATTER WHAT. This states a complete refusal to read other angels at all (which is blatantly anti-town IMO), and hinting that they already know each others alignment.

Basing anything on a multiball w/o flips is stupid though. If an angel flips that is town (or scum), DW is town IMO.

[Zajnet]

Let me state some things.
1. there definitely exists 2 or more angels(including DW)
2. The angels arent all scum. So it's either an effective neighborhood, or an entirely different party.
3. Each angel has 1 shot in all cases except for a 2 person group. This is because of balance.
4. The 2nd party is viable, because of DW stating to protect the angels NO MATTER WHAT. This states a complete refusal to read other angels at all (which is blatantly anti-town IMO), and hinting that they already know each others alignment.

Basing anything on a multiball w/o flips is stupid though. If an angel flips that is town (or scum), DW is town IMO.

I agree with this.

So, are we going to quit jerking around and lynch someone? Running DW up to test if he has partner(s) is stupid. They'll come out eventually, there is no need to have them come out now or waste their abilities this early in the game.

By the way, DW is claiming that he has another shot and that he will use that shot to save himself, but he can't based on what Kairyuu said.

It would also auto-fail if I used it on myself.

My guess is that DW's partner (or one of his partners) would save him. This has no bearing on his alignment, and I still think we shouldn't try to lynch him. If we get to LyLo and he has no partners, we lynch him. It's literally that simple.

[theamatuer]

First, I am an angel. This gives me the ability to cause a lynch to fail. If I use the ability, I am then forced to submit a kill immediately. This person dies instead of the lynch target, and one of the day's lynches are used up. The power cannot be used when a town majority would be lost by the lynch. In other words, I cannot save a lylo mislynch and shoot the scum hammer vote to continue the game. The ability would auto-fail. It would also auto-fail if I used it on myself.

this is kairyuus original claim btw. DW can't save himself.

[DeltaWave]

When I say that "I" have another shot, I mean that I'm directing the next shot. It's not like I'm the one actually doing the "shooting."

Anyway, here are people I'd be cool with lynching today: Staeg, Tech, SKrew. Possibly funkybike if anyone has anything better on him.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: SKrew

[kondi2424]

Thanks, Zaj. You just gave him a loophole.

We're fucking lynching Delta today.

[SpyreX]

Because I know that we'll have people like SpyreX who will say "let's just keep lynching delta over and over" to perpetually avoid scumhunting.

I said if you shoot Trevor.

I've said that over and over.

You could, in fact, shoot me and that would be less stupid.

Also if theam is NOT an angel that's a fabulous shot right there too.

I can understand Staeg but his post last page makes me about 90% sure he's gonna flip town.

[petapan]

On the current people being pushed:

The only point about the bbmolla wagon that I think holds water is that that Rhinox was suspicious of him. The points against him dont't really separate him from anyone else.
I think Techno is scum, mostly because of his play since we've had two scum lynches and that fact that Rhinox was suspicious of him is a good poiint.
I am less certain about Spyrex. The fact that he's decided to only post hammers is annoying, and post hammer vote on Fritz is a concern.

Vote: Techno

don't lynch tech

zajnet looks like he's deltawave's partner tbh. there. i said it.

i think sleepykrew and zoraster are both low-percentage necessary evil lynches. they've abandoned the game and i doubt they'd play up a strategy of sending in kills to the QT every night without posting, i just dont buy it. anyone who's at least still posting (MoS, ellibereth) is more likely to be scum. sk/zor should be last resort lynches when people have no better leads.

[SpyreX]

Or great "angel" shots today.

BUT whateveeeer

[Ellibereth]

i think sleepykrew and zoraster are both low-percentage necessary evil lynches. they've abandoned the game and i doubt they'd play up a strategy of sending in kills to the QT every night without posting, i just dont buy it. anyone who's at least still posting (MoS, ellibereth) is more likely to be scum. sk/zor should be last resort lynches when people have no better leads.

on the contrary I at least am still getting prodded
so take that as you will

[petapan]

okay, interesting, though it probably means they're just ignoring them completely like jerks

today is a good day to lynch one of them actually since it's our last multi-lynch day

[Ellibereth]

multi-lynch or not shouldn't really affect lurker lynches imo.
today's the chance probably for a 'true' 1v1 if anyone wants to go and that shit so we can take our time.

also after the single lynch mode with the approximate scum dead vs. town we're *almost* just restarting the game in the mode of any usual large theme so whoever is totally inactive has no excuse after that. (i.e. they don't really have to pay attention to previous stuff but post then it should be inexcusable).

[petapan]

i can't understand half that post

[kondi2424]

You know who else I want dead soon? Zajnet.

[zoraster]

Just got a prod. No idea where we are in the game. I'm unlikely to read 146 pages, but I'm willing now to try and catch up in a more general sense if someone wants to help. What are the current threads, who should I try to look back at, and are there any claims outstanding?

[petapan]

deltawave is a claimed lynch-redirector who's part of a group with unrevealed members. some people don't trust him, amazingly enough, given the flips in this game.

there are 5 flipped scum, read them.

give opinions on any of the following:

zajnet
staeg
theamateur
MoS
Sleepykrew
spyrex
syndromeofadown
Thetrollie
Ellibereth