↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:Well given that S is pretty well established to be a Pro-Scum only letter your choice of M (which makes Strongman with S) makes that a viable question IMO.
I realise this, but it's not the only role M makes, and it could also be a very pro-town letter. In addition, my choice could have little to do with me trying to make up an ability, and more to do with preventing scum from snatching it today. The only person that knows why I chose it is obv me.
My question to you is – if you supported a Mass-letter claim initially why does Voided asking you about a specific letter (which doesn’t out your hand) bother you? I see your response but anyone having a Town read on someone doesn't mean they should not consider the possibility that their read is wrong.
My problem with Voided's question was the fact he asked it shortly after making it quite clear that he believes I'm town. He hasn't so much given me a town read as he has declared me town to other people - several times. So this made me curious as to whether he was now doubting my alignment, and if so, why would he make such convincing declarations over the last 24 hours, if all it took was me picking a letter that could be used by scum to hurt the town to start doubting himself, and why his first assumption was not that I was taking it to prevent scum from getting it.
Also, I started thinking about reasons why scum might point out my choice and ask me if I had the other letter to make up strongman, and how they could do it while appearing town-like. The first one that came to mind was the fact that scum know I am town, therefore they know I could not use a SM ability even if I had the S, because it would only leave me with one other tile, and that = no ability to use the SM with. So if scum knew for certain I had a S, then I would be a great target for a letter stealing ability, because I couldn't prevent it.
I'm not the only person to pick a letter that would benefit scum, but no one else has been asked about their other letters. This coupled with what I said just said, means there is a specific reason why I'm being asked, and the fact it came from the one person who seems to really believe I am town, and not someone else, say yourself for example, just doesn't sit right quite right with me. I expected Voided to either have nothing to say about it, or to express some kind of relief at the most. I still don't know if he's just doubting himself in a similar way to my doubts about IG, or if he's being clever scum. I'm still leaning towards him being town.
As for the massclaim part of your question. I would have had no problem at all coughing up my letters if we were all doing that, and then following my idea of structuring night actions, but we are not. And I see no reason why I should now be the only person to have to reveal either of their letters just because I chose the M. I won't be doing it because revealing either of my other letters will be a detriment to the town. That is all I'm prepared to say.
Whisper wrote: What also worries me is the others that jumped on his wagon, and the fact he did come up with a plan to guide the town.
So why don’t you detail the most scummy person who ‘jumped on’ Iceguy and pressure them?
Sorry, I should have used a different word. My problem is not that I think the people who joined his wagon after me are scum, it's that most of them are either town or null reads. The players I find scummiest are not on his wagon, which worries me somewhat. I have Amrun as a town read, both you and Arugula are leaning town, and Voided is a null - leaning town. So I'm confused at to whether this is a town driven scum wagon (with scum trying to divert attention to other people such as myself), or a town driven town wagon with scum distancing themselves. When taking into account the fact that IG came up with a plan, can you see why I'm doubting myself?
