Name | Tokens Given | Tokens Received |
BBmolla | Llama Matt Darox | SpyreX, Llamarble, VoidedMafia |
Darox | SpyreX, BBmolla, implosion, MattP, kuribo | |
| Fate | ||
| Haschel Cedricson | ||
| implosion | darox, mattp, llamarble | |
| kanyeknowsbest | marble mattp spyrex, | |
kuribo | SpyreX, Darox, MattP | SpyreX, Llamarble, VoidedMafia, |
Llamarble | Kuribo, Spyrex, BBMolla | kanyeknowsbest, BBmolla, implosion, MattP |
MattP | SpyreX, Llamarble, Darox | kanyeknowsbest, BBmolla, implosion, kuribo |
SpyreX | BBmolla, Darox, Kuribo | kanyeknowsbest, Llamarble, MattP, kuribo |
| VoidedMafia | Kuribo, BBmolla | |
| vijay2vasandani |
↑ Llamarble wrote:↑ Fate wrote:Yeah Marble's scum. Plenty of scum on the big wagons trying to refuse to bus.
Marble is playing the ole "IMMA WORKHOUSE 6 TIMES I READ DIS THREAD BEFO I MAKE MAH READZ"
"I POST MORE THAN THE LOT OF YOU IM VALUABLE TO DIS TOWN"
"ILL KEEP MAKNG POSTS ABOUT HOW HARD IM WORKING RATHER THAN POSTS THAT CONTAIN ANY OF SAID WORK AND HOPE NO ONE NOTICES"
yeah
die scum die
YEAH GEE I REALLY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE.
OH WAIT WAY MORE THAN YOU? I THINK SO.
↑ Llamarble wrote:
Fate town would MAKE one of them viable, and Fate town would CARE between two options.
You aren't a skip participation D1 player.
↑ Fate wrote:Yeah Marble's scum. Plenty of scum on the big wagons trying to refuse to bus.
Marble is playing the ole "IMMA WORKHOUSE 6 TIMES I READ DIS THREAD BEFO I MAKE MAH READZ"
"I POST MORE THAN THE LOT OF YOU IM VALUABLE TO DIS TOWN"
"ILL KEEP MAKNG POSTS ABOUT HOW HARD IM WORKING RATHER THAN POSTS THAT CONTAIN ANY OF SAID WORK AND HOPE NO ONE NOTICES"
yeah
die scum die
This is just incorrect and you should know that.
Except for the I post a lot and am valuable thing, which is indeed a property I have.
Fate/Kuribo/Spyrex were all sitting around not acting like normal / trying to force scum to die but instead waiting for one of the viable lynches (most of which were on pretty clear town) to happen. THAT IS SUSPICIOUS.
↑ Llamarble wrote:Fate, Kuribo, Darox, Implosion should not have as many trust tokens as they do because all of them are pretty suspicious. Darox makes lists / puts in effort as scum and especially is incentivized to do that by the trust mechanic.
And the sketchy people are all trusting each other and making each other be on the mission, which certainly makes sense for scum to do especially if they are excited about their team as any team with at least two of those people would be.
↑ Llamarble wrote:
1. I have stated a NUMBER of important reasons I find it likely you're scum this game.
2. "WELL LOLMETA TOWNFATE CAN READ ME ERGO SCUMFATE NAO OMGUS" is a REAL argument.
When Fate suddenly turned on me in Nomination mafia, I had a feeling of WTF this makes NO SENSE from Fate which dealt a big blow to my townread on him. He was scum that game. When I've been town and played in exactly the same massposting obvtown manner as I've played here (I have never succeeded in playing like I've played here as scum; my townmeta really is just blatantly different from my scummeta), Fate has fakeclaimed masons with me TWICE to keep me from being lynched, once in spite of role information suggesting I was scum.
↑ Llamarble wrote:
There are like 5 non lurkers in this town, and two of them are on my scumlist, so this is complete trash. Also I am pretty sure I've attacked you since before you attacked me. You've been tunneling me all game despite the fact that I am now rolemechanical-town in addition to strategicplay-town in addition to protown-effort town in addition to attitude-town.
As for you trying to take advantage of me saying my vote on HC was role-powered:
Your default assumption was that I was lying and trying to mislynch HC. IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT I WOULD DO THAT / THAT YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITUATION. The obvious reaction was the reaction everybody else had, which was 'ok lets vote HC and see.' Your reaction reminds me a lot of my scumplay in Outwitted. I thought you-town was lying so I decided to take advantage of that by proving how implausible your claim was to Spyrex. And I actually thought I was telling the truth so I was able to be convincing. I can't even rule you out as scumbuddies with HC because the exact situation where Seraphim claimed a guilty on GreyICE (my buddy) and I thought he was lying felt a lot like this.
↑ Llamarble wrote:
Like many things Fate has said this game, this post is disgustingly stupidly obviously wrong.
I have given more and better reasons for more reads INCLUDING THESE ONES than Fate has to an extent that is laughable.
This particular post did not contain reasons because I didn't come to a decision, and it is not worth my time to go through the reasons this round of re-ISOing my scum candidates didn't produce a strong #1 choice. Why in the %#$&8 would you expect anything different?
↑ Llamarble wrote:
As for Fate's scumminess this page, he isn't doing exactly the same thing he's done in a particular previous game, it's just he's capsing out Fatefakeable stuff in a way that feels like "I SHOULD POST SOME RAGEY THINGS AND TRY TO MAKE MY WAGON GO ELSEWHERE."
Why would you care about being on the mission anyway?
It succeeded.
↑ Llamarble wrote:Fate you are not this stupid.
VOTE: Fate
STOP BEING A MORON != appeasement.
I think that CES may be mafia. He also may not be mafia.
I have made arguments for both of these possibilities as I considered them.
I am not going to 100% assume one or the other while trying to read everybody else.
Kanye wagon is just an easy bullshit mislynch after he saw how shitty he would look if he forced this Fate one through.
This is entirely unreasonable. I'm not going to switch wagons 87 times to avoid responsibility.
That would be a laughably large amount of effort for an unimportant objective.
↑ Llamarble wrote:↑ Fate wrote:I'll do some more in depth analysis tomorrow, but I'll break it down now for later use:
Llamarble
CES
implosion
kanyeknowsbest
vijay2vansandani
BBmolla
SpyreX
kuribo
Darox
MattP
The Mini-Librarian Voided Mafia
Fate
Fucks that think I'm scum/willing to lynch me:
Llmarble
CES
Implosion
VoidedMafia
SPYREX
That's 5 people
People who can read me as town:
MattP
Kuribo
Vijay (50/50)
Kanye
Darox
BBmolla
That's 6 people.
I honestly don't see how a lynch on me good pan out other than shit compromising. The majority of this game thinks I"m town.
The minority contain the scum. Strongarming a Fate mislynch here is optimal play given my lack of fucks/time for this game.
Also of the people who are likely scum on my potential wagon:
Llmarble -"Unlynchable" (mission)
CES-Likely wrongtown
Implosion-"Unlynchable" (role related info start of day?)
VoidedMafia- I'm actually taking VM off my town list. His tunneling on me is completely unreasonable. AND given the fact that the SECOND and Elmo counter-wagon came up, the entire wagon dove for it STRONGLY points toward VM scum. Add this to the fact that his wagon DIDNT spring up again D2 (aka the wagon at first was scum bussing, then scum didn't want to bus today and have been driving the town around)
SPYREX-"Unlynchable" (Mission)
Unvote:
Vote: VoidedMafia
I'm obviously not going to be able to break apart the Marble/SpyreX scumblock today, but in time it will become more and more obvious to the remaining townies.
I will compromise on VM today.
This is such a bad post.
He counts up who is interested in voting him / other people, and then he puts his vote on the wagon other than himself that is most likely to succeed irrespective of his prior reads. This is pure, first principles scummotive.
↑ Llamarble wrote:↑ Fate wrote:
VoidedMafia- I'm actually taking VM off my town list. His tunneling on me is completely unreasonable. AND given the fact that the SECOND and Elmo counter-wagon came up, the entire wagon dove for it STRONGLY points toward VM scum. Add this to the fact that his wagon DIDNT spring up again D2 (aka the wagon at first was scum bussing, then scum didn't want to bus today and have been driving the town around)
I said almost word for word the same thing earlier.
Neither Spyrex nor I fit into the 'left his wagon for Elmo wagon late D1 and didn't return D2' category.
Who are these mysterious bussing than leaving folks?
Actually that describes Fate himself better than it describes any other player in this game.
↑ Llamarble wrote:"Elmo beiing a weaker player only explains the ease of the wagon shift not WHY. The why is explained by you being scum and your buddies glad to shift off you."
Well your earlier opinion was:
I'm fine with changing of the mind.
But here it just looks like you changed your mind for the sake of convenience.
The whole scum bussed voided and then didn't want to follow up on D2 argument is bogus from you because you and people you have townreads on are like the only group falling into that category.
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