Mini 1349: Words with Scum (Game over!)

[Robocopter87]

Post 381 - Ice, why do you believe I'm scum, again?

Post 385 - But...Robo, you just said Arug was null-scum and Whisper was scum. What changed your mind, or are you just trying to sheep AVox?

Post 396 - Eh, I guess that works, Robo.

I'd be willing to lynch IceGuy or Arug right now.

Arugula wagon is better.

[whispersilk]

Scum

- DCL, Vox

Leaning scum

- MoI, Robocopter, vijay, 2for1

Null

- Amrun, Arugula, LLD

Leaning town

- Voided

Town

- IceGuy, Hoopla

My read on

Vox

is very similar to my original read on IG. But IG went from scummy - bad town - better town as soon as we stopped our back and forth. Part of me is telling me that Vox is scum, but another part of me knows that he is smarter than this, and smart enough to not play scum so badly, and that part is telling me he's just stubborn meh town. My read on him volatile. No matter what his read on me, I genuinely want to see more content from him, because the part that sees him as bad town knows he can do better. The recent interaction with Robocopter is

My read on

Amrun

has gone from town - null. I can only put this down to gut until I've had more input from her, particularly her read on Arugula and Copter. I'd also like to hear her updated thoughts on IG.

My read on

LLD

is subject to change. Previously I read her as town, and I agree with Hoopla that her entrance was townish. A lack of content from her is the only reason she is now null.

[AurorusVox]

If you're going to use meta do it properly.

[AurorusVox]

@VM: When I read on my phone (more frequently nowadays) I'm not spending time cycling through links.

[Voidedmafia]

I put who the quotes were from in my comments.

[whispersilk]

@Vox:

Thing is, I don't see it as meta (because we've only played one game together, and I have no idea how you play as scum) as I am simply using my knowledge that you can play town much better than you are now. So if you are town, I don't understand why you're not. Trying to survive scum NK's (as MoI) suggested is not a good enough reason, imo.

I'm tired of bitching with you.

[AurorusVox]

@VM

>_>
<_<
<_>

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@Whisper what game did we play together btw?

[whispersilk]

It was the newbie one that robocopter modded, I think. I subbed in blind on day 4 at L-1 as the jailkeeper. Talked my way out of it, a big debate ensued, and we finally lynched Thor, who was the last scum. Remember?

[AurorusVox]

Well there's your answer then.

[whispersilk]

My answer to what?

[AurorusVox]

Why the play there is vastly different from the play here.
MANY ANSWERS.

[Arugula]

I don't like how Robocopter is reacting.

/facepalm

Alright. There is this thing. It's called reasoning. We use it when we wish to describe and support our statements.

Go back, quote me, and use explanation to describe why I am scum.

Here is what I didn't like:

wasting his time making a case

on me

Yep, that makes sense. Because scumhunting is a waste if the case is made on you and not someone else. Because pointing out three people, explaining why they are scummy, and connecting them to each other is a total waste of time if you are involved.

You took things out of context by posting a sentence fragment.

You make a nice case. Well, case that recaps on all the other cases but you linked them together. However, I would like to ask, if you think that out of those three that if it wasn't for those three, you would think Whisper is town. Why did you want Whisper to be the first one to go?

That's a really good point. I'd like to know why too.

Wow. Suck up much?

You are getting worse and worse by the minute.

I'm down for a whipser lynch, Vijay isn't really going anywhere. I'm more willing to put pressure on.

UNVOTE: Vijay
VOTE: Whisper

So everyone who agrees with you is scum? Just because whisper wanted to know something that you did, does not mean she is sucking up to you.

ICEGUY I THINK YOU'RE TOWN
DONT LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN

Town: AV

Cmon man. You said this like three posts after AV said his. You didn't even make the obvious buddying less obvious.

Okay cool. Call out buddying and don't follow up on it.

DCL, what the hell is your problem with me? Did I take a shit on your pillow or something?

I did have a bandwagon going, and EXCUSE ME if I didn't realize that all but one person hopped off. Nonetheless, IceGuy abandoned his case on whispersilk and moved onto someone who others had previously voted: me.

You have been tunneling me this whole game. Literally. After pages of posts, that is all you have to comment on? That is scummy as hell.

You didn't even address Hoopla's vote on you.

Whoa man.

This is pretty vicious towards DCL. Yeah DCL has been doing crap for content (And you were not the first to point this out. i pointed it out and you resaid it multiple posts later.)

It was a ridiculous question to ask him nonetheless. He thinks you are scum. This game is called Mafia. You find Mafia. You kill the Mafia.

However he does need to post more content. But again, this has already been stated.

Sorry about this post, I made a better one like this. Except a lot of crap happened and I lost it. first post I've ever lost, I think. So this is just a quick recreation of it.

Yes, but he has ONLY TALKED ABOUT ME this whole game. That goes beyond thinking someone is scum. That is tunneling. You are agreeing with me, but attacking me at the same time. Why are you defending DCL's tunneling?

@ MOI's request
6. Arugula - Null-Scum
9. whispersilk - Scum

Yes.

In fact, I don't know why I'm voting Whisper when Arugula is clearly the scummier of the two.

UNVOTE: Whisper
VOTE: Arugula

What changed in between these posts? You list whisper as scummier, but then say I am scummier. And you answered "yes" to AV's question when he asked if you would vote me to stop and IceGuy lynch. But IceGuy is only a null read for you, so why are you trying to save him?

@MoI I see a lot of AV/Robocopter buddying.

2. Arugula is looking very bad. In my opinion even worse than Whisper. I think Whisper has done a better job defending herself than Arugula. I would rather see Arugula dead than Whisper dead at this point. Thus, I switched my vote.

Again, what changed for me being null-scum to scummier than whisper? Why is my wagon better?

I still don't like IceGuy, mostly because of his Amrun is an easy town read bit. But, it looks like his lynch isn't happening.

UNVOTE: IceGuy
VOTE: Robocopter87

I don't like how AV and Robocopter jumped on my wagon together and I don't like how they have narrowed it down to either me or IceGuy.

[AurorusVox]

Arugulu try harder.

[Arugula]

Shut up you haven't done shit this game.

[DCLXVI]

Reads:

Town:

Voided, ICEguy, LLD, whispersilk

Null

: Robocopter, Vijay, 2minds1soul, MoI, Amrun

Scum

: Auros, Arugula, hoopla


Now about that vote on me

DCLXVI is one of the quieter posters, bordering on lurking.

I didn't like his vote on Arugula - looked forced,

and he hasn't really done much since. I wouldn't be surprised if he's scum.

And how exactly did my case looked forced? Honestly that bolded part just looks like bs filler. Its just a buzzword without any meaning thrown in to make your case on me look better.

[Arugula]

Well that was a lot of hype for nothing.

[DCLXVI]

I don't recall doing a lot of hyping, but I'll add that last post of your to the misrep list.

[Arugula]

I would like to see this misrep list.

You promised a reads list and that post was underwhelming and your scum read on Hoopla reeks of OMGUS.

[AurorusVox]

Shut up you haven't done shit this game.

I've found all three scum.

[Arugula]

So when I flip town, you can admit you have done nothing and hammer yourself.

I've played one game with AV before and although it isn't completed, we are both dead and town. He is acting completely different. He posted reads, (good ones), answered all questions, and did not give snarky, unhelpful comments like the one above.

I want to lynch AV too, but Robocopter first because Robocopter can actually be helpful to scum.

[AurorusVox]

Let's [REDACT] that convo.

[AurorusVox]

Aru you're not flipping town.
If you do, then obv I find the scummz on your wagon~

[Arugula]

Why? I'm not mentioning specifics or giving anything away, just explaining your behavior, which anyone can read if they want.

Yes I am flipping town, and when I do, I hope you are lynched.

But hopefully we won't have to come to that and you die before me.

[whispersilk]

DCL, what the hell is your problem with me? Did I take a shit on your pillow or something?

I think you are scum. Therefor my vote is on you. Acting all pissy like that at L-5 is not giving me much reason to leave your wagon.

Whats kinda funny is that I make a post about "x", and then you go off on me for not posting about "y".

Now if I had written a much longer post with reads (which I will be doing later)

and had not mentioned the hoopla vote, that would indeed be a cause for concern. But with a short post like that, I don't think it is expect that I'm going to write about everything that has happened so far.

Still waiting for that long post with reads, DCL.

patience grasshopper

Reads:

Town:

Voided, ICEguy, LLD, whispersilk

Null

: Robocopter, Vijay, 2minds1soul, MoI, Amrun

Scum

: Auros, Arugula, hoopla


Now about that vote on me

DCLXVI is one of the quieter posters, bordering on lurking.

I didn't like his vote on Arugula - looked forced,

and he hasn't really done much since. I wouldn't be surprised if he's scum.

And how exactly did my case looked forced? Honestly that bolded part just looks like bs filler. Its just a buzzword without any meaning thrown in to make your case on me look better.

I don't recall doing a lot of hyping, but I'll add that last post of your to the misrep list.

The only one to misrepresent anything is you. Your #414 is pathetic, and after saying there was a long post coming with reads, we were all expecting more than something you could have typed out in about a minute and half and given us a long time ago.

[Robocopter87]

You took things out of context by posting a sentence fragment.

Pfft. No I didn't. Whisper said that. Whisper said that the making of a case on her was a waste of time. That isn't out of context.

So everyone who agrees with you is scum? Just because whisper wanted to know something that you did, does not mean she is sucking up to you.

I never said everybody who agrees with me is scum. That is blatantly misrepping me.

If whisper had simply wanted to know what I wanted to know. She would have waited for the response instead of buddying up to me saying it was a good point.

Okay cool. Call out buddying and don't follow up on it.

I called it out, what more did you want? Whisper was blatant and unnecessarily buddying. Iceguy was simply posting reads and put Vox in the town category.

Yes, but he has ONLY TALKED ABOUT ME this whole game. That goes beyond thinking someone is scum. That is tunneling. You are agreeing with me, but attacking me at the same time. Why are you defending DCL's tunneling?

You asked him if you took a **** on his pillow. That question was so ridiculous. Why would you even ask? I never defended his tunneling. I've said multiple times that I have called him out multiple times to give more content. Read my ISO, I say it over and over. It wasn't about DCL, it was about our reaction to DCL.

What changed in between these posts? You list whisper as scummier, but then say I am scummier. And you answered "yes" to AV's question when he asked if you would vote me to stop and IceGuy lynch. But IceGuy is only a null read for you, so why are you trying to save him?

You are definitely more scummy than Whisper atm. I voted you over Whisper. I changed my mind, you should die first. Save IceGuy? He is in no danger whatsoever. If he died I'd be pretty mad though that someone scummier didn't go down first.

Again, what changed for me being null-scum to scummier than whisper? Why is my wagon better?

Your reactions. And now your OMGUS. You have gone into rage mode because people think you are scum.

So when I flip town, you can admit you have done nothing and hammer yourself.

I've played one game with AV before and although it isn't completed, we are both dead and town. He is acting completely different. He posted reads, (good ones), answered all questions, and did not give snarky, unhelpful comments like the one above.

I want to lynch AV too, but Robocopter first because Robocopter can actually be helpful to scum.

That fact that you are telling people you'll flip town is ridiculous. When you start using that as a defense you know that you need to die.

Yes I am flipping town, and when I do, I hope you are lynched.

We aren't going to lynch him if you flip town. You acted scummy and he voted you. Nothing wrong with him. If you flip town, you ought go back and play a few newbies. AtE much?