Mini 1350: Spartacus Blood and Sand Mafia Day 2

[inte]

did you even look at Post 95 or did you just pick and choose what to try to gimp me with?

[inte]

anyway, didn't really have much reason to push the derpy wagon, we just needed something to get us out of RVS. quick wagons are the easiest way. that plus he diss'ed mafia-n00bs brilliant idea to change out avatars

his (Derpy) last post reeks of town tho so its pretty moot to follow up on him

[whispersilk]

Of course I looked. I'm pointing out the fact that you hopped from Phil and fitz to derpy giving no reason, then hopped off derpy and back to Phil and fitz, again without reason and after derpy told you to back up your vote on him and push for his wagon. Why the hell do all that and try to push derpy only to give it up a couple of posts later.

Way to ignore my point.

[inte]

.. my bad

it was the way he was responding to me. i sort of figured that there was a misunderstanding from my posts, but i was trying to see if it was on purpose or what.

Post 96 and Post 98 were weird

[inte]

his "get to the bottom of it" attitude is what i liked though

[whispersilk]

anyway, didn't really have much reason to push the derpy wagon, we just needed something to get us out of RVS. quick wagons are the easiest way. that plus he diss'ed mafia-n00bs brilliant idea to change out avatars

his (Derpy) last post reeks of town tho so its pretty moot to follow up on him

We were well beyond RVS when you made those posts (your second attempt to push his wagon), chief.

[inte]

yeah? i was trying to force something out of him and at the time he was giving me bad vibes

[inte]

is this a subtle chainsaw defense?

[Phillammon]

You only asked me one question, and then I (rather laboriously and in a roundabout way) explained it.

[Phillammon]

Unless I missed something. (That was directed at Code_X)

[mafia-n00b]

Quick reminder:

Game is limited reveal. Only the side of the dead player will be revealed.

We will never know if Shotgun is town or scum, unless Shotgun says if he is revealed town at death.

Nothing more than fluff and appearing to be helpful. We already know this game is limited reveal because the rules state so.

The fact that we all know it's limited reveal isn't the reason that post is unhelpful. 119 is unhelpful because it's incorrect. Millers flip as town when they die, only death millers flip as scum. Since this isn't a bastard game and death millers are bastard...

Regardless, my take on that is null. D3f may have genuinely been mistaken and trying to remind people that drmy's lynch wouldn't give us anything. In my mind, being wrong like that is a derp-tell, not a scum-tell.

[mafia-n00b]

FoS

on Matias and D3f for my Vote 1.

Can I interest anyone in a wagon on one of them?

[whispersilk]

The fact that we all know it's limited reveal isn't the reason that post is unhelpful. 119 is unhelpful because it's incorrect. Millers flip as town when they die, only death millers flip as scum. Since this isn't a bastard game and death millers are bastard...

Regardless, my take on that is null. D3f may have genuinely been mistaken and trying to remind people that drmy's lynch wouldn't give us anything. In my mind, being wrong like that is a derp-tell, not a scum-tell.

I never said that post was unhelpful. I quoted it because it's basically fluff and seems just there to

appear helpful

.

So despite you thinking it's a derp-tell, your next post is to round up troops to start a wagon on him?

This should have been a large theme, and not a mini.

[mafia-n00b]

I never said that post was unhelpful. I quoted it because it's basically fluff and seems just there to

appear helpful

.

So despite you thinking it's a derp-tell, your next post is to round up troops to start a wagon on him?

This should have been a large theme, and not a mini.

Re: unhelpful/"appear helpful"": yeah, my wording wasn't ideal. Point taken. The reason I brought it up was not just that it was trying to appear helpful, but that it was *wrong*. The wrong-ness of it is central to my analysis of it. It's actually the one post of his that smacks of content (albeit, useless due to being incorrect) as opposed to fluff.

Re: derp-tell and wagon request: the rest of your case was pretty much in line with my read. He

is

generally posting fluff rather than content. Asking for people to convince him to join leading wagons is bad too. You have one "tell" that I disagree with, but I reached the same conclusion.

Re: large theme: I agree completely.

[Code_X]

Unless I missed something. (That was directed at Code_X)

94

[Code_X]

FoS

on Matias and D3f for my Vote 1.

Can I interest anyone in a wagon on one of them?

Matias yeah sure. 74 is scummalicious considering he was actually voting Shotgun.

Hmm Phil/Shotgun though - decisions, decisions .....

Unvote 2 Shotgun

Vote 2 Matias

[mafia-n00b]

... I only had a slot open in V1... but OK. I can swap votes.

UNVOTE: 2. Pine
VOTE: 1. Pine
VOTE: 2. Matias

[chesskid3]

Votecount 6.1:

Inte: ActionDan, Derpy Hooves, PeregrineV, havingfitz, Phillammon, whispersilk (L-1)
Derpy Hooves: Matias, Pine (L-5)
mafia-n00b: D3f3nd3r, havingfitz (L-5)
Pine: drmyshotgun, mafia-n00b (L-5)
Phillammon: Code_X (L-6)

Not voting (0):

inte is at L-1

Votecount 6.2:

drmyshotgun: Matias, Pine (L-5)
Code_X: Derpy Hooves, drmyshotgun (L-5)
Pine: Phillammon, D3f3nd3r (L-5)
Derpy Hooves: PeregrineV, Phillammon (L-5)
Matias: Code_X, mafia-n00b (L-5)
havingfitz: ActionDan (L-6)
mafia-n00b: havingfitz, inte (L-6)
D3f3nd3r: whispersilk (L-6)

Not voting (0):

Deadline is 6PM EST on July 12th

[chesskid3]

Should a lynch be reached while I'm on the road/getting settled at my living quarters for the next month and a half, proceed on, since nothing would really happen anyway, except that one of the votecounts will be locked with all votes in place, and that rule about not being able to vote the same person with both vote 1 and vote 2 might trolololol some scrubs.

[ActionDan]

Unvote1:

reading.

[drmyshotgun]

1st regarding the miller claim, what shotty did is absolutely the right play. this would be the 2nd time I have played in a game where a scummy player rolled miller (played a game under beck where Parama was miller) and he also claimed in his first post. I do not advocate a d1 lynch of a miller, when we get to a point in the game where we are close to lylo and we have a ML left and he is still alive, we can discuss lynching him at that point but that is so far away.

2nd - Every single reason Code has given to try and lynch Shotty are horrible. First he attacks him for not posting when the game starts, than he wants to test the miller claim, but as fitz pointed out there is no point testing the claim day 1. If someone is so sure he is scum going into the night phase than hopefully we have a RB type role or maybe a watcher/tracker of some sort. but jesus let the man play the game without preconceived notions.

3rd - Inte, if you want people to join you on lynching me you are going to need to do more than "OMG CMON GUYS, LYNCH DERPY HE IS SCUM BECAUSE I SAY HE IS" I am quite torn though because your push on me is way over the top to come from somebody who is town, and I also doubt scum would put a target on their back like that either. If you are town, you need to explain why my reactions are scummy. It would also help if you explained why you went hardcore pushing on me early on without any reason whatsoever. so until you can do that, I will just leave my vote on you. and you can try and tap dance around it and accuse me of OMGUS, but it most certainly has nothing to do with OMGUS. Code is guilty of doing something similar and I am voting him.

I have to go now, kids bed time and quality time with the wife.

nah

Vote 1: Phillamon
Vote 2: havingfitz

"Nah" what?

@shotgun- I see you whole hog beating on Code_X for voting you. What about your other 5 voters and their reasons?

Most of them looked like RVS (Matias), PL PL PL! (Pine), and sheeping (Fitz?).
Only Code_X was shouting out to people to get me lynched already.
At first, he was trying to get rid of my slot by reminding everyone that I'm not in this thread while being at others.
Now he was pushing my wagon because of my role.
He didn't seem to put in much effort to convince others to actually get me lynched, but was just leaving his vote on me just because he doesn't want this role in Lylo.
Well, as people started unvoting, Code seems pretty disappointed and has some feelings about my lynch left as he pulled out too.
I think he's scum.

[Code_X]

Yo Shotgun. That ain't scum-hunting. It's OMGUS.

[drmyshotgun]

If that post was said by someone other than me, would it be scum-hunting?

[Code_X]

Nope.

What do you make of everyone apart from me? By all means I don't want you to forget me, but opinions on the rest is good.

[drmyshotgun]

I'll get to that.