Open 417: Chosen Mafia - Heaven and Hell - Game Over!

[Hyperion]

because its all apeal to emotion. he is trying toplay thesob story card. also arugala, i dont see your namein the active users space. lurking much?

his name not being there means nothing Hyperion, lol
I don't think my name is there either?

Arugula defending kc has been noted

you are all lurking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Arugula]

What scum motivation does kcdaspot have to post what he did?

Yes, I am defending kcdaspot. I know it's a risk, but I am that confident in my townread on him.

Instead of only laughing off Hyperion's poor lurker accusation, I am going to pressure him on it. Why would you call me out for lurking right after I posted? Why would you use such poor reasoning? It seems to me you are trying to desperately find something else scummy I am doing.

[Hyperion]

if you havent npticed i dd it to everyone. and a at the end ofthat last one. it is clearly a joke.

[Kcdaspot]

Dicknose is supplying questionbs w/o conclusions (padding the thread.)

Arugala is playing like MY HERO so that way he can get the I WAS RIGHT cred and get a scum victory

Giitah just wearing a "i'm with thor" t shirt. (sheepysheep)

Psyche did all of jack and hyperion NEEEEEARLY makes up for it... hang on folks i might have a town read here... also you didnt finish dem isos.

Near flop-flopped like crazy. always sounding so sure no matter what. scum or town i'm not listening to you

SV:

Is this where I claim?

not even gonna say a thing

Tech:

@Giitah: Bold in giving his reads. Backs up his reads. His push on Thor seemed genuine and town motivated. I have Thor pegged as town, and I can't see scum-Near pushing a Thor lynch and then backing out VERY quickly. Call it WIFOM but I don't see scum-Near making that move. Plus his reads on Kcdaspot and Arugula sit right with me. Only thing that worries me is if he is being opportunist (should both Kcdaspot and Arugula be town), but I don't think this is the case, at least not for both of them. And while I don't like his idea that if you are scum then Thor is your likely partner (I can't see scum buddying that badly), he is right in that Thor's defence of you is poor.

I don't really agree with your 'Freudian slip' logic. If that's why you think Arugula is scum, that's pretty dodgy. And no, Arugula, poor logic =/= scum. Meta, meta, meta. A player with poor logic who is usually logical is slightly more likely to be scum, because they have to shift their usual scumhunting goodness towards backing up mislynches. And I'm not buying your cases on Thor or Near.

Slip. I NEVER mentioned anything about you saying 'confirmed' was a scumtell. I don't like this whole idea that 'two early D1 bandwagons = scum trying to kill the chosen'. Far too blatant and a good excuse to cry innocent and gather towny points, plus try and make others look scummy.

At the moment though I am having doubts that both Arugula and Kcdaspot are scum together. While it seems this may be the case (particularly with Arugula trying a save on Kcdaspot by calling him chosen and Thor scummy), it does seem too blatant. I know that in a recently finished scumgame Arugula heavily buddied his scummates, but that was as a mafia traitor (makes sense to try not to get NK'd). I'm not sure what he usually does as scum outside of that game.

@Arugula: Do you have any other scum meta?
@Near: If one of Kcd or Arugula flipped town, would you assume the other is town? And that Giitah and Thor are the likely scumteam?

this was the post i was talking about he mentions thor over 9001 times and always has him in a positive light. more content but still non commital sheeping. Also:

You seem very interested in Psyche, and spouting defences of yourself with 'don't lynch me, I am chosen'.

Plus trying to discredit me and Thor.

hows that for buddying?

and thor as stated: TUNNELTUNNEL

[Kcdaspot]

scratch that about the "positive light thing."

[Arugula]

Cool Hyperion.

FoS: Hyperion

And no kcdaspot, I have been on your side for a while now and am not just taking cred because your mislynch wagon is building up.

[Hyperion]

couldnt you have pointed these out before i asked? keeping these to yourself didnt help you at all.

[Hyperion]

and arugla. fosing gets you nowhere. if you relly think i am scumy, commit to a vote . because n fos gives no presure. dont beat around the bush.

[Arugula]

Lol the FoS was a reaction test.

Your reaction wasn't scummy or town so meh.

[Kcdaspot]

...........

UNVOTE:
VOTE: arugala

[TeChNoWC]

@Kcdaspot: Those posts as potential buddying posts is grasping at straws. Anyone who has a townread on a player + disagreeing with stupid logic aimed at discrediting them is buddying/scummy/SCUM PARTNERS!!?!? Again, more bad logic + calling out people as scum for vague reasons.

Also your Arugula paranoia seems to be an attempt to distance yourself from him before you flip mafia.

Tell me, if Hyperion is a (supposed) townread of yours, is he 'also' sheeping Thor by stating similar reads as Thor/me/Near/Giitah? Why does he get town status for doing the exact same thing (calling you scum because yo iz scummy as), yet gets called town for it? And the rest of us are sheeping Thor?

And can you not see a problem in your logic if your logic is bringing you to the conclusion that everyone but you and Hyperion are scum?

[Kcdaspot]

it's why im dead wieght.

either lynch me or just continue to belittle me. your choice

[Kcdaspot]

whatever you choose i'm still playing. so bring it son.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Thor is scum.

Kcda is .... probably town.

Hyperion is aggravating.

[Giitah]

and Shattered Viewpoint needs to explain his reads pl0x -- most importantly the Thor claim, but I'd like to hear about the other two too since they're important

Kc, explain why Thor is scum pl0x.

[Giitah]

btw, TUNNEL TUNNEL TUNNEL isn't good enough

[Dazzy]

Vote count

(9 players alive = 5 to lynch)

(3)[L-2]Kcdaspot - TeChNoWC, Thor665, Giitah,

(2)Arugula - Near, Kcdaspot,
(1)Near - Arugula
(1)Hyperion - dicknose,

Not voting(2/9)(Shattered Viewpoint, Hyperion,)

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Deadline

: July 16, 2012

Other Notes:

[Kcdaspot]

I dont see him trying to find other scum.

i dont see him trying to poke at null reads to make them look scum or town.

all he wants is me dead. doing that to me is meh. doing that to ANYONE? jump em

[TeChNoWC]

Hyperion and Shattered, why the lack of vote?

Shattered, you basically said Thor is scum.
Hyperion, you indicated that you felt Kcdaspot was likely scum.

So why so afraid to vote?

Kcd, why are you voting Arugula? For 'buddying' you, I presume?

[Kcdaspot]

Lol the FoS was a reaction test.

Your reaction wasn't scummy or town so meh.

no for this.

he's faking it so hard.

[Dazzy]

Near and dicknose are being prodded

[Hyperion]

TIME TO FINISH MY ISOs!!!!
Dicknose:
+ Town slip in Post 94
- His last post was on page 4.
Overall: Null, needs to post more.

[Hyperion]

Shattered Viewpoint:
- two posts so far.
- Has yet to give reasons for his accusations.
OVERALL I am withholding judgement until SV posts more

[Arugula]

How was that fake, kcdaspot?

Scum generally get angry over a FoS/vote with no reasoning. Town get confused. Hyperion did neither.

[Hyperion]

Last is Giitah:
I have played a game with him, where he was scum, and while I don't like meta analysis, if people want I can link it.
- I thought his interaction with Arugala aound post 80 was scummy. He tried to comment on the use of the word "already" when talking about Psyche's replacement. Seemed like a kind of useless contribution.
+ Post 185 looks very town motivated, pressure on Kcdaspot.
+ looks for explanations in 214 and 215. Doesn't want a BS answer.

ISOs are done.