Open 418 - Friends and Fun Times at the Fair (Game Over)

[Code_X]

Why would I ignore the flip? It includes good info that can lead to scum.

Go on then use the flip.

Using the flip btw pretty much implicates you as scum.

[Code_X]

Being as two masons weren't even on RBD. Helluva lot of bussing going on ...

[Chrimi]

Why would I ignore the flip? It includes good info that can lead to scum.

Go on then use the flip.

Using the flip btw pretty much implicates you as scum.

How?

What the fuck happened to logic in this game?

[Code_X]

Logic?

Logic dictates your scum.

Do enlighten us with your reads though.

[Arugula]

VOTE: Chrimi

For obvious defending of RBD and refusal to post reads.

Nice wagon jump, btw.

I said I was going to vote you yesterday. Speaking of D1, what happened to your case on me?

[Code_X]

I mean Chirmi has jumped on Andrew/Shotgun/McStab but hasn't stated a single mention or read of Venmar/Rainbow and neither of Rainbow/Venmar stated a read or anything about Chrimi in fact Rainbow has thrown him at the end of his 'want to lynch' pool with no reasoning attached to it whatsoever. The connection between those and TAM work perfectly as a scum-team plus individually they're all incredibly scummy.

The lynch should be in one of them 3 today, not McStab or Tech or any stupid other wagon.

Dead people always say it better.

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Chrimi

For obvious defending of RBD and refusal to post reads.

Nice wagon jump, btw.

I said I was going to vote you yesterday. Speaking of D1, what happened to your case on me?

Don't remember making a case yesterday. I must've missed what you said...

[Code_X]

Chrimis reads in #285 don't read as genuine scumhunting at all, in fact it's rather just 'lump random people in town and say shotgun is scum' and when questioning about the reasoning behind some of the reads he blatantly bullshitted. Also he doesn't actually vote his one scum-read at all, just stands back, then jumps on Andrew to move to McStab later on - both of them were popularish votes at the time and come across as opportunistic voting.

Also I can see him working very well with RBD as scum - both of them haven't commented on or read the other.

I'm going to sheep Soben today.

[Mortontfrh]

Current Vote Count:

Vote Count 2.1

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Chrimi (5): L-1

- Code_X, Drmyshotgun, RedPanda, McStab, Arugula

McStab

(1) - Potack-ruv

Drmyshotgun

(1) - VisceraEyes

Not voting: TeChNoWC, The Acting Method, McStab, Chrimi, andrew94

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-17 01:35:00)

[TeChNoWC]

I want to lynch Shotgun.

DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!

I had a scumread on him yesterday but let it go because he was shitting up the thread with Potato. However, given that he was shitting up the thread with Potato, AND fake-claiming masons AND is scummy as fuck, I want him out of my town.

This doesn't make drmy scummy. Town would have plenty of motivation to go along with said gambit, and I actually do feel he is telling the truth when he said he could tell I was the last mason. He didn't attack me for probing, he tried to placate me and shut down the conversation, and hinted that I should 'accept' the current climate. The way he did it felt pro-town to me, but I do harbour some of TAM's suspicions.

Either way, why are you not commenting on the Chrimi wagon? And why were you so worried about my hammer yesterday?

[VisceraEyes]

I'm fine with a Chrimi wagon, but it's at L-1 right now. Not much to say there.

I was worried about your hammer yesterday for obvious reasons, scum got the last fucking say of the day Tech, I get that you had this secret that cleared you today or whatever but what about the rest of us who have to go by what we see in the thread? Huh? Do you give a shit? No, because you're a mason and you're confirmed. So I wanted more time to get reads on other people...with a claimed scum, asking people about their interactions with the scum before he's flipped can be pretty telling...not everyone had had a chance to comment, I could go on and on. The game wasn't stalled, something huge had just happened, there was literally NO REASON TO HAMMER right then. But you did.

Anyway, why do you care?

[TeChNoWC]

I realize my hammer was a bit abrupt. Drmy is right, last words from Soben might have been helpful, I just hadn't considered it. Plus I didn't want to give scums more time to think I was a mason. Had they picked up on my softlclaim, and NKd me last night, I would have flipped mason and all hell would have broke loose on andrew and TAM. Me hammering quickly killed scum + gave scum a reason to hesitate on NKing me, if they had picked up on my softclaim, because they would have been looking at the delicious opportunity that I wasn't a mason and that my actions could get me lynched. I may have been overanalysing this, but if my actions were detrimental to town, I apologize.

I have to go by what I see in the thread, too. I just knew two people who were town other than myself and now so do you. Of course I give a shit.

I just don't like your quickvote on drmy. Why is he scummy for claiming mason after a real mason claimed it for him?

[andrew94]

guys why is chrimi scum again?


we should lynch visceraeyes for reasons i stated
yesterday.
+ he votes my townread.

vote visceraeyes

and actually, i started the fakeclaim when i said he was
100% town etc etc. i fakeclaim all the day.
why arent you voting me?

[VisceraEyes]

He's not scummy for claiming mason, ESPECIALLY because a real mason claimed it for him. He's scummy for going along with it WHILE doing the whole thread-destruction thing vs. Potato. Some of his posts left me feeling really REALLY bad about his slot early on, but when the masons declared for him he became a non-target. To be honest, I would have pushed his lynch over Rainbow if it weren't for that nonsense. I'll make a case, but I'm busy at work just now so it will have to be later.

The point is my quickvote is because I had preexisting suspicion on the guy, and when he went from "scummy but mason" to "scummy AND liar", my vote reflected my reaction.

PEdit:

-.- Really? Why? Because I'm voting for your townread? Why is it not possible that you're wrong? And even if you're not, why does the fact that I suspect him EVEN REMOTELY make me scum?

I'm not voting for you because you're a mason, confirmed by your partners. Regardless of the shenanigans yesterday, this is a fact...I'm not voting for you because you're ON MY TEAM.

[drmyshotgun]

Chrimi is Scum.

I wanted to take the NK instead of real Masons.

Chrimi saying my fakeclaim was just "wtf". Hmm, his involvement in this game is WTF.

[The Acting Method]

Andrew, do me a favor...

Re read Shotgun... Please, And do a train of thought, explaining as detailed as possible the town motivations. And make sure you post it for all of us to see.

Tech, Had you died last night, This morning would have started with me voting Shotgun while yelling at Andrew for the fake claim.

But in any case, I do think I can get behind a Chrimi lynch. If he's town though... So help me Thespis, I'm going to bring down the wrath of the theater on Shotgun.

VOTE: Chrimi

FOS: VE

Reasoning: If Andrew is right, VE is prob: scum, If Andrew is wrong... I think we all know where I'm going.

[VisceraEyes]

That was a hammer...what is it with you fucking masons?

Idiots

[drmyshotgun]

Happy birthday AcRv~

[VisceraEyes]

For what it's worth, I'm still suspicious of RedPanda for scumhunting and appearing so obvTown early game and just being a non-presence since then. I don't care if you quickhammering idiots thinks I'm wrong, that shit is scummy to me.

I'm also still suspicious of Shotty, but that might change if Chrimi flips scum. Don't know yet.

[drmyshotgun]

Didn't realize that Chrimi was so intimately linked with me that if he flips Town, my head flies next.

[Mortontfrh]

And the shortest night phase ever goes to...Locked, death scene incoming.

[Mortontfrh]

Final Vote Count:

Vote Count 2.2

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Chrimi (5): L-1

- Code_X, Drmyshotgun, RedPanda, McStab, Arugula, The Acting Method

McStab

(1) - Potack-ruv

Drmyshotgun

(1) - VisceraEyes

Not voting: TeChNoWC, McStab, Chrimi, andrew94

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-17 01:35:00)

Chrimi the

Mafia Goon

has been lynched.

You have (expired on 2012-07-06 16:16:00) to submit your night actions.

[Mortontfrh]

TeChNoWC the

Town Mason

has been killed.

Current Vote Count:

Vote Count 3.0

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Not voting: The Acting Method, McStab, RedPanda, Potack-ruv, andrew94, Code_X, Drmyshotgun, VisceraEyes, Arugula

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-20 17:56:00)

[Potack-ruv]

Guys,
I know my reads have been shit this game,
So let me have some time to get them up to speed.

In other words, I am going to do a triple ISO with different people against Chrimi and RD.

[The Acting Method]

Tech wished that his last reads would be given if he died, so I shall present them to you.

FOS: Arugula, Code_X, Potack-ruv, McStab

It's from what I consider most scummy to least scummy considering the fact he was killed.

Code and Arugula are tied so you know.

I also have a light suspicion on McStab personally which is why he is included.

@Potack, kk.