Mini 1348- Dragon Ball Z: Saiyan Saga Mafia (Game Over)

[Yates]

My point, Benmage, is EXACTLY THAT! Goku COULD BE a safeclaim! Holy F.

I will grant you your second point. I didn't like that setup yet it happened. I have heard that about at least three of my last 5 games, tbh, though. So yeah. I'm not making assumptions.

See above. One man's "outrageous" is another man's "cautious" especially when I know Slandaar is lying.

I already said why I don't believe Slandaar's claim. Because I know he is lying. It's pretty simple, he is either Goku [as he claims] and NOT VT [as he also claims] because the main character is not bloody likely to be VT [a point I am not pursuing b/c Slandaar shouldn't full claim if he IS actually Town]. Or, Slandaar is lying about being Goku because it is his fake claim and he was up against the ropes. OR, Slandaar is lying about being Goku for another reason we haven't thought of. Again, I present GBII as an EXAMPLE of a scenario we hadn't thought of in that game ONLY because it illustrates that you can't assume scum gain nothing by finding specific characters...

Quote from GBII scum QT post 7

"What you think is the chance that Yates [Town] will be lynched day 2? because If I am the hammer on him, we auto win."

If you and Acosmist aren't scum, I don't understand why you WOULDN'T account for these possibilities. It isn't like EITHER of you to just take a claim at face value.

[BK201]

UNVOTE:

Pretty lame Matt replaced out. Super lame if scum-Matt replaced out.

Will read the new stuff tomorrow.

[Agent_Ireland]

I'm not buying that the main character is a VT at all. No way the strongest person in the world there has that little power here.

VOTE: Slandaar

Although, if we do lynch slandaar and he does flip town, yates should be our lynch tomorrow.

[iDanyboy]

Why should Yates be our Lynch tommorow if Slaandar is town. Getting your excuses ready.

[PeregrineV]

Sorry Thor, I'll try harder.

Vote: Agent_Ireland

[Slandaar]

This is mafia not whichever character is strongest gets the best pr. If that were the case scum couldnt fake claim.

I am Goku
I am VT

Yates is scum.

[pappums rat]

Votecount 1.18

MattP - 1 (iDanyboy)
dicknose - 1 (MattP)
Slandaar - 3 (Yates, dicknose, Agent_Ireland)
Yates - 3 (Slandaar, Benmage, Acosmist)
Acosmist - 1 (Thor665)
Agent_Ireland - 2 (snifit, PeregrineV)

Not voting - (JohnnyFarrar, BK201)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is 1 AM EST on July 5, 2012.

[iDanyboy]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yates

If he is mafia so is Agent Ireland.

[Agent_Ireland]

Why should Yates be our Lynch tommorow if Slaandar is town. Getting your excuses ready.

It's my opinion. To me, slandaar is most likely scum. After that, it would be Yates.

[iDanyboy]

What makes you think Slaandar is mafia? His the most Town person in this game.

[Yates]

What makes you think Slaandar is mafia? His the most Town person in this game.

??? Explain.

[Yates]

This is mafia not whichever character is strongest gets the best pr. If that were the case scum couldnt fake claim.

This is a load of crap. Pick a THEME game out of a hat and odds are the main characters are the PR's. You know it. I know it. And so does everyone else that has played more than one THEME game on this site. Are we in Coney Island or Road to Rome??

[iDanyboy]

Claimed Goku and no one counter claimed him...

[Yates]

This is mafia not whichever character is strongest gets the best pr. If that were the case scum couldnt fake claim.

I am Goku
I am VT

Yates is scum.

That is

terrible

reasoning. By that logic all I have to do is

claim: Krillin

and I'm Town if I'm not counter claimed?

[iDanyboy]

You even said Goku is the main character and he is in the game. It would be stupid if his not in the game.

[Yates]

No, I said [and pointed out] I have been in games where the main character *isn't* in the game. Then further said that *if* he is in the game the VT role makes less sense.

Also - V/LA until probably the 5th. RAHH AMERICA!!

[iDanyboy]

Have you even taught of the possibility he was hiding the fact that he had a power role ?

[snifit]

Agent_Ireland, can you explain your reads in a bit more detail? Why is Slandaar your strongest scum read? Why the scum read on Yates?

Mod, will the deadline be extended for MattP's replacement?

[pappums rat]

Mod, will the deadline be extended for MattP's replacement?

It is likely that I will extend the deadline.

[Acosmist]

It isn't like EITHER of you to just take a claim at face value.

We are taking a claim at face value?!

I sure am not, and you just LIED about me, so you can go get LYNCHED, you LIAR.

note to self, if Slandaar is scum MattP more likely to be scum

there, I won't lose that

Look at me, THINKING SLANDAAR COULD BE SCUM.

I don't talk about conditionals with impossible antecedents, for the record, because, sure, they are true in all possible worlds, but what's the point? Life is too short.

[Acosmist]

The case against Yates (my case at least) has precisely nothing to do with whether Slandaar is fakeclaiming. Yates said that if anyone else is Goku, THAT PERSON SHOULD NOT COUNTERCLAIM and give us a clear 1-for-1 trade on day 1. With no one dead.

So, you know, a completely awesome way to guarantee a scum lynch today or tomorrow.

Yates says that's a bad thing.

[Acosmist]

Benmage and Acosmist could both use a thorough investigation as they pretend they don't understand obvious logic.

Today or tomorrow, you're done. You're getting lynched.

And since everyone had a chance to post, no one else is Goku. So Slandaar is fakeclaiming Goku or he actually is Goku. So, people who know DBZ, how likely is Goku to be a fakeclaim?

[Agent_Ireland]

Benmage and Acosmist could both use a thorough investigation as they pretend they don't understand obvious logic.

Today or tomorrow, you're done. You're getting lynched.

And since everyone had a chance to post, no one else is Goku. So Slandaar is fakeclaiming Goku or he actually is Goku. So, people who know DBZ, how likely is Goku to be a fakeclaim?

Being the saiyan saga, I believe there is no way in HFIL that Goku is a fakeclaim. Based on the fact that goku was dead through half of the saga, I believe that he is most likely an even or odd night commuter.

[BK201]

town

slandaar
acosmist

Yates

idk

Scum

Johnny - gut gut gut
Snifit - gut gut gut
Agent_Ireland - look at him rolefishing

Don't mind lynching

PV - lets call it gut

[BK201]

I try not to go mainly on gut, b/c I find it annoying when a certain player does it (will refrain from blacklisting). But this game is a lot more talkative than I am used to, and we don't have any flips.