Mini 1344: Murder on the HMS Regalia - Game Over

[drmyshotgun]

You trolling us Trollie? Cuz it's really funny.

[TheTrollie]

shut the fuck up either believe my claim or not but thats my fucking role

[drmyshotgun]

But Richard is our Mod.

[TheTrollie]

ohhhh....wait then i just fucked up... i meant i watched ser arthur...

i had to check the message to remember what ser arthur's name was and i just posted richard cause it was from richard....

anyway

[BK201]

13. Ser Arthur Dayne, Regalia-aligned Vengeful, killed Night 1

Trollie you realize whoever you watched visit ser arthur is scum right?

(small chance of vig + mafkill stopped, but still).

[Psyche]

TheTrollie's claim is poor, but I'm willing to bet that it is legit.

BK's not reading.

[BK201]

ok, claim time then...

I am a town watcher.

Last night I watched Richard but I must have been blocked by someone because I got no result

@psyche, I think I stopped reading after Richard.

I propose we don't lynch trollie and have him report his results if his target dies. Worst case scenario we lynch him as the final scum, best case scenario maf has to waste their RB on him or NK him. As for who to lynch idk yet.

[Espeonage]

This has been a REALLY bad claim.

[Psyche]

lol but it's true. fake claims are botched up in a different way.

[drmyshotgun]

UNVOTE:

[image]

That's... wow. I don't know what to make of that claim. On the one hand, that slip-up with Richard seems too genuine to be fake. On the other, Trollie's earlier play looks pretty scummy and claiming no result on SAD is awfully convenient. For the time being, I'll believe it.

Working on the assumption for the moment that Trollie is indeed town and looking at the votes on his wagon, I think drmyshotgun comes off looking worst. His vote is late to the party, no more justified than anyone else's, and he's the first to back off not when Trollie fixes his claim, but when other people start saying they believe this. Put together with my comments earlier about him and the Malakittens wagon, I'm pretty confident he is scum if Trollie is town.

However, regardless of whether Trollie's claim is legit, I don't like Psyche. At this point in the game, he has no real excuse for not having produced useful content or done any real scum hunting. In fact, he seems to be active lurking with claims and vague promises of more and better content in the future. He backed drmyshotgun yesterday and urged people to get off the wagon with no real reason. He avoided mentioning the Mala-wagon entirely, and didn't mention Trollie until after he was at L-1 and claimed.

Unvote: sword

Vote: Psyche

Still dislike drmyshotgun, still okay with quarantining him.

[drmyshotgun]

That's... wow. I don't know what to make of that claim.

This sounds like as if you are trying to fake your confusion.

VOTE: image
You pretty much slept this day along with me and some others. Dodging prods etc.

[drmyshotgun]

And why did you drop your case on Sword just like that?

[guille2015]

UNVOTE: Trollie

Whether, he is telling the truth or not, it is convenient to assume that he is town for the following couple of days. The Richard thing was a mistake that could mean anything, so I am not going to use that in my tell. One thing is certain. If Trollie is Town, then we know that at the very least, Espeonage is not the roleblocker. Good to know later in the game.

I currently don't have time at the moment to think of who to vote for now, so I'll think about it later. It's between Psych, Shotgun and Phil.

[Psyche]

That's... wow. I don't know what to make of that claim. On the one hand, that slip-up with Richard seems too genuine to be fake. On the other, Trollie's earlier play looks pretty scummy and claiming no result on SAD is awfully convenient. For the time being, I'll believe it.

Working on the assumption for the moment that Trollie is indeed town and looking at the votes on his wagon, I think drmyshotgun comes off looking worst. His vote is late to the party, no more justified than anyone else's, and he's the first to back off not when Trollie fixes his claim, but when other people start saying they believe this. Put together with my comments earlier about him and the Malakittens wagon, I'm pretty confident he is scum if Trollie is town.

However, regardless of whether Trollie's claim is legit, I don't like Psyche. At this point in the game, he has no real excuse for not having produced useful content or done any real scum hunting. In fact, he seems to be active lurking with claims and vague promises of more and better content in the future. He backed drmyshotgun yesterday and urged people to get off the wagon with no real reason. He avoided mentioning the Mala-wagon entirely, and didn't mention Trollie until after he was at L-1 and claimed.

Unvote: sword

Vote: Psyche

Still dislike drmyshotgun, still okay with quarantining him.

If you think my reasons for backing drmyshotgun weren't good, you should be voting for him.

Meanwhile, I think you need to point out scum intention in my posts since complaining about my play is not a case.

I'm not scum; I'm just a bit busy and tired. When one of the two changes, you'll see wallposts from me.

[Malakittens]

Okay. When I get home I'll unvote Trollie. Personally the claim looks legit. I rather not lose a town PR, especially not a watcher. Even though he made a mistake on the name I'm not holding it against him because it happens.

( on my phone due to 4th of July and I always mess up the codes)

[Espeonage]

Unvote, Vote: BK

[RichardGHP]

Seventh Vote Count of Day 2

Lynch:

[1] Malakittens - [Phillammon]
[3] TheTrollie - [Malakittens, NabakovNabakov, sword_of_omens]
[2] Psyche - [BK201, image]
[1] image - [drmyshotgun]
[1] BK201 - [Espeonage]

[2] Not Voting - [Psyche, guille2015]

Quarantine:

[1] drmyshotgun - [image]
[5] Phillammon - [guille2015, BK201, sword_of_omens, Malakittens, NabakovNabakov]

[7] Not Voting - [Psyche, NabakovNabakov, Phillammon, drmyshotgun, Espeonage, TheTrollie, sword_of_omens]

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch and 6 votes to quarantine. Deadline for this day is July 9, 1630h UTC+12.

[Malakittens]

Unvote: Trollie

More to come tomorrow I was out all day at a 4th of July party and rather sleep at the moment.

[sword_of_omens]

@Trollie

why did you target Sir Arthur?

[TheTrollie]

I was deciding between targeting sir arthur or drmyshotgun, mostly just on gut feelings and thinking about who were on most people's town list.

[Malakittens]

Unvote

@Nab, I would have thought he was scum that game for the way he articulates his posts. They appear nervous and often over-explain things. That doesn't mean mala is town just for that though, he may just not have much of a difference in alignment.

VOTE: psyche

Alright, so you haven't really said anything about Psyche at all in this game. All of a sudden the pressure if off to lynch me you jump off and switch targets without explaining the case on why you switched to Psyche in the first place?

Also, the first quote the "he" you are referring to is me correct? I'm only asking for clarification here because I'm a girl and I don't want to mix up Trollie's name with mine. The last part of the first sentence "That doesn't mean Mala is town just for that though, he may not have much of a difference in alignment" doesn't make sense. If I was town how could I change to anything less than town? Either way I need you to clarify this whole thing.

I already see that Espe voted BK.

Vote: BK201

Image gets a rise in my FoS list again because of his last post. Though part of it looks more like a town agenda behind it at least second sentence part of it, but the only thing that gives me pause is that Shotty has claimed VT. Thetrollie's claim doesn't look fake at all and there could be a million reasons why he didn't get a result. I don't want to have this conversation about why because it brings a lot of WIFOM talk in it and everything is just a speculation until it's proven otherwise.

Basically your post reads to me like this: " Wow I don't know what to make of that claim. The mod slip up makes it too genuine to be fake, but it can most likely be fake because between Trollie's actions prior to the claim look scummy, but not having a result looks even scummier because there is no result. "

The dropping the whole mention of Sword was odd because Swords was also on Trollie's wagon, but you said you had a scum read on him, but dropped it. Again with the WIFOM possibilities here, but since it's all speculation until there's a flip due to a lynch or a NK. Basically if Image was to flip scum, I would highly look to looking at Swords as scum because of Image dropping his case without any indication prior to it. I would also say that if Image flipped scum that Shotty would most likely be town.

[image]

@drmyshotgun:

You became slightly more suspicious to me than him because it felt like the way you acted on the Trollie wagon was more scummy. My theory from earlier indicated that at least one of you, BK, and swords should be scum, and it was weaker evidence that made me think the scum was most likely to be swords.

@Psyche:

Your backing drmyshotgun doesn't necessarily mean he is your scum-buddy; scum will sometimes back town players to appear more town. Well known fact. The problem is that you backed him quite strongly without citing any reasoning. As for finding scum-motivation to your posts, that is difficult to do because you have produced almost no content, which (in turn) is why I think you're scummy.

@Malakittens:

Suspicious VTs are, in my opinion, well worth quarantining since if they are scum, we successfully block a scum, and if they are town, we don't block a power role. Just because he claimed VT doesn't mean he is, and as I find him suspicious, I think he's worth jailing.

[guille2015]

Mala keeps looking less and less scummy for me.

I need to get more reads on. Haven't had much time to re-read in the past few days. Should improve in a week.

I would also like to know why BK voted for Psych.

[sword_of_omens]

Unvote: Trollie

Watcher can easily be scum as well as town and i am still suspicious about his alignment...
however, for now, Malakit is right about the WIFOM part of it...
not to mention we have already lost 2 PR's...so i'm willing to err on the side of caution for now and let Trollie prove himself.

@Image:
your vote on Psyche really does seems out of place, especially when you just got done saying how scummy you thought Shotty was...
And since me and him were in your top 3 picks, why didn't you leave it on me, or at least change your vote to Shotty?