Mini 1349: Words with Scum (Game over!)

[DCLXVI]

Then pick the most likely one and vote. stop stalling.

[AurorusVox]

Do you realise my vote has moved from MoI to you to Vijay, where it currently resides?
Why are you trying to make it look like I'm not voting for anyone?

[MagnaofIllusion]

MOD – I’m LA until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties.

This thread needs more Amrun and LLD.

@Voided

– what do you think of DCL?

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Lol I love how DCL only posts like crazy when he's in danger of getting lynched.

While the actual wording by Vijay here is bad (DC isn’t currently in danger of being lynched … no-one is right now) the sentiment is dead on.

DCL coasted through Day 1 and was on the way to doing the same until I started prodding at him. Then he suddenly springs to life and continues the strong activity when Robocopter calls him out.

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So Iceguy now is stuck making a rather comical meta case. That’s all you have left Iceguy? No actual references to any of the things you claim are telling in this thread? Just trying to find a scum game you think can use to sell that I’m scum since you’ve already lost the battle in thread?

For the record Iceguy already knows his meta case is bullshit and posted so in thread Day 1 here –

Actually, I'm rather tempted to start a wagon on you now for your shitty reasoning.

But I know it'll turn out like in 70s Smalltown, where you attacked me with incredibly shitty reasoning, got lynched and flipped town.

Unfortunately, you don't seem to have learned from that experience.

He never did bother to link to that game did he? Well here it is so everyone can see that his meta claim is just more flailing …

70s SmallTown

It’s a good read for those wanting to see the difference between his “MoI is scum” post here and there.

Note that when he was Town in that game he actually tried to demonstrate with posts from the 70s thread to support his case (no matter how terrible it was). On the other hand here all we get is a generic list with no actual support. Night and day difference and shows why Iceguy is scum desperately trying to lynch the one person who is pushing him the most.

So vote him … he’s scum.

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Nope, he did not answer the question. I asked for what MoI thought my previous reads meant, not on why they may be important, MoI clearly is deflecting the question.

VOTE: MoI

Interesting reaction from someone who has pretty much made their gameplay to not answer questions in any way that is significant. I’ll be frank … the fact that you supposedly thought I’ve been scum this entire time but hopped on just now (after I finished once again showing Iceguy fabricating evidence in an attempt to get another mislynch) siting the reason as “deflecting questions” (which is not answering) is pure Cognitive Dissonance. And quite possibly trying to distract from a partner who is under heavy fire.

If I’m voting off Iceguy today (which is not likely since he’s obv-scum) you’d be my choice.

I'm perfectly content to sit by and watch MoI dig himself into a deeper whole by continuing the ICE case. There is nothing wrong with that.

Instead of sitting back and waiting to see which wagon will be the most convenient to jump on, how about you just vote the person you think is most likely to be scum.

A. More Cognitive Dissonance. DCL thought it was fine to sit around and hang in the background until I prodded him and suddenly he had a scum read on me the whole time (which his end of Day 1 list shows isn’t true). But he calls out AV for essentially the same thing.
B. I’m still waiting for you to actually show where my points against Iceguy are bad. I think I’ll still be waiting as just like Iceguy you are taking the “Just call it bad since I can’t show it” department.
C. The back-tracking at Post 627 where you try to say “Hey, I was joking about that” when Robocopter calls you out on it is further scummy.

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And now for a more specific return: if ICEguy was town, what would your Whisper read be?

I don’t see Whisper as being more likely scum if Iceguy flipped Town. Her Dayplay has been pretty solidly Town, even if her reasoning isn't the strongest. Her move off Iceguy Town reads to me as having actual reasoning behind it.

I would not put her in my lynch pool if Iceguy turned up dead Town. Which would, again, cause my mind to explode.

ICEguy scumflip makes me hurt inside. It would make Whisper more town. DCL could still be scum. Vijay I think is still capable of being scum. You'd potentially drop but I'd not put it past you to be his buddy~

So if Iceguy were to flip scum the only read of yours it would change is making Whisper less scum?

Willing to lynch today:
Vijay
DCL
MoI

So you laughed at a MoI / AV / Vijay team but think a MoI / DCL / Vijay team makes sense?

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@MoI: You made a bit of a fuss about wanting to know exactly who I thought was posting shite, but then never followed up on what I said, or addressed my thoughts on you. Is there any particular reason why?

Well since you posted it at the end of the day while I was LA for the weekend it hardly was top of mind today since Ice-scum is still scummy as always. And because frankly there isn’t anything there that I think I need to address at this stage. The part of me that read your 490 little lob of insults wanted to put ask you to show your solid cases made Day 1 that demonstrated why mine have been deficient. And your ‘people posting shit’ list I found pretty bad since Hoopla was obvious Town from her posts (which you agreed with), LLD wasn’t posting anything, and I'm hardly posting shit. But frankly no matter how bad I think your reasoning is I still read you as Town based on seeing how passive you are as scum. I’m not interested in getting into a dick-measuring contest with a Town read as its counter-productive.

So back at you now - given I've shown Iceguy fabricating 'evidence' in attempts to undermine my points twice today does your strong Town read on him still stand?

[AurorusVox]

Yeah, MoI, because you're not voting DCL or Vijay whilst calling both scummy. Distancing but not bussing.

If IceGuy is town, and you'd still read Whisper as town, that would mean we'd have had three wagons D1 all on town (Hoopla, Aru, IceGuy, Whisper).
I find that IMMENSELY unlikely...don't you?

[Voidedmafia]

@Voided

– what do you think of DCL?

If I wasn't so sure of Icescum, I'd be blatantly sheeping Robo onto DCL. That answer your question?

I’m not interested in getting into a dick-measuring contest with a Town read as its counter-productive.

*coughredactedcough*

[MagnaofIllusion]

Yeah, MoI, because you're not voting DCL or Vijay whilst calling both scummy. Distancing but not bussing.

If IceGuy is town, and you'd still read Whisper as town, that would mean we'd have had three wagons D1 all on town (Hoopla, Aru, IceGuy, Whisper).
I find that IMMENSELY unlikely...don't you?

So I'm voting my Top scum-read (and the keystone to my current reads) and that's troublesome? Are you willing to vote DCL then? He's my next top scum-read based on dayplay and the next most viable wagon to Iceguy. I'll move to him if you do.

I don't think having three dominant wagons on Town Day 1 in a mini is that unusual honestly (not sure where Hoopla came from as her early wagon was RVS chucklefest). I can hunt down specific threads to find examples if you really think it is that unusual.

What do you think of Iceguy's cherry-pick meta case (especially in light of me showing how his case-work strongly differs from him as Town)?

[MagnaofIllusion]

If I wasn't so sure of Icescum, I'd be blatantly sheeping Robo onto DCL. That answer your question?

Yup. Again - DCL is the next most viable wagon and my second strongest scum read via Dayplay.

I have no idea WTF you are talking about in the rest of that post ....

[AurorusVox]

Call.

Vote: DCL

I included Hoopla because she was a wagon and is proven town. I don't see why I should exclude her.

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: DCL

Because RVS wagons have little to do with alignment. I've seen both Town and Scum run up (and often much higher than here) just to kick start the game ...

[MagnaofIllusion]

BTW AV - you didn't answer about what you think about Iceguy's case ...

[DCLXVI]

Yawn...go ahead and lynch me, scum have given themselves away through VCA.

>>> Arugula (7) DCLXVI, IceGuy,

Robocopter87, AurorusVox, vijay2vasandani,

Voidedmafia, Amrun <<<

Players voting me:

Vijay2vasandani, robocopter

, MoI,

Aurorusvox

I'd bet the game that at least 2 of the three players that are bolded are scum.

They should be the next three lynches.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Well my limited access for today is coming to an end but I want to reiterate this point about Iceguy -

Actually, I'm rather tempted to start a wagon on you now for your shitty reasoning.

But I know it'll turn out like in 70s Smalltown, where you attacked me with incredibly shitty reasoning, got lynched and flipped town.

Unfortunately, you don't seem to have learned from that experience.

This post shows he is approaching the game from a scum perspective in that he knows I'm Town. His first reaction to me focusing on him is to say "Hey, it's Town versus Town again". He doesn't consider me possibly begin scum because he knows I'm not. It's only when I keep after him and don't want to let him escape today that he suddenly flip-flops 180 degrees and says "Hey, this is pure MoI scum" with his cherry-picked game of choice meta.

[Voidedmafia]

Robo's a no-go, but I could be sold on vijay. (Voxy's already a scumspect for me so THAT'S easy enough).

You and Icey die first, though. Not in any particular order.

[IceGuy]

I'm still amazed how Voided continuously keeps wanting to lynch me with more fervor than anybody but MoI but doesn't actually give any reasons.

[Robocopter87]

Yawn...go ahead and lynch me, scum have given themselves away through VCA.

>>> Arugula (7) DCLXVI, IceGuy,

Robocopter87, AurorusVox, vijay2vasandani,

Voidedmafia, Amrun <<<

Players voting me:

Vijay2vasandani, robocopter

, MoI,

Aurorusvox

I'd bet the game that at least 2 of the three players that are bolded are scum.

They should be the next three lynches.

Did you just bold random player names? Or was there an actual reason behind those choices? Explain your VCA.

[DCLXVI]

use the thing on top of your neck and figure it out. It certainly isn't rocket science.

The players that are bolded are the players that were on the final arugula wagon, and the players that are on my wagon (which at the moment is the biggest day 2 wagon.)

[IceGuy]

Which proves exactly nothing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That is funny. Because you and I both know I was talking about the MoI wagon that you jumped on. You rode by watching it happen and saying MoI was scum and ICE was town. You even told him to go back to doing their debate so you could watch some more.

I'm perfectly content to sit by and watch MoI dig himself into a deeper whole by continuing the ICE case. There is nothing wrong with that.

Vote: DCL

I don't have to be invested in this game to kill you for this.

While I'm here, have a Jetpack Kinzo!

[DCLXVI]

I don't have to be invested in this game to kill you for this.

And this quote is supposed to be any better than the one you pointed out?

[DCLXVI]

Good job LLD, you managed to skim the thread and put someone at L-1 for an out of context quote. Congrats.

Not sure if you are retarded town or scum though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't have to be invested in this game to kill you for this.

And this quote is supposed to be any better than the one you pointed out?

It's a lot better, actually.

Since yours is scummy, and mine is just lazy.

Also, you're at L-1? WONDERFUL.

Someone hammer this scum bag, his reaction alone reeks of "scum raging for being put at L-1 by someone who is barely reading the thread".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, Jetpac Kinzo defies you.

[Voidedmafia]

Good job LLD, you managed to skim the thread and put someone at L-1 for an out of context quote. Congrats.

Last I remember, that quote is standalone and thus doesn't really require any context? (nvm that Robo already tore through that quote).

Can I beez hammah guy? plz?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kill it. JetpacKinzo demands blood.

[Voidedmafia]

Kill it. JetpacKinzo demands blood.

Well, we hafta let everyone flip and collect now, LLD. But don't worry, his glorious death will be insured.