Open 418 - Friends and Fun Times at the Fair (Game Over)

[drmyshotgun]

@RedPanda: Om OMGUSed me when I called him Scum early in this game. Remember?

[RedPanda]

YOU AREN'T EVEN GIVING ME A CHANCE TO CLEAR MY NAME. YOU'RE DELIBERATELY IGNORING MY ATTEMPTS TO CLEAR MYSELF TO DISCREDIT ME AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE MY DEFENSES AREN'T WORTH ANYTHING.
THIS
IS
WHAT
IS
CALLED
SCUM
BEHAVIOUR

you've been defending yourself all the time.

I've been attacking you all the time.

thats how the game works.

Should the prosecutor be charged for doing his job against a criminal?

[Potack-ruv]

tried to lynch shotgun day 1. only backed away when you believed he was a mason.

So you think I should have kept on attacking a Mason? Bullshit.

then you went after mcstab etc.. etc..

And what about it?

disappeared when rainbowdash was getting lynched.

I had nothing to say? So what?

called the lynch on chrimi a policy lynch.

I didn't see why he was scummy.

So lets just assume right here that your reads have been terrible till now.

Till now, my point exactly.

After chrimi gets lynched what would a player who apparently is the beacon of townieness do.
He reads the game during the night phase discusses with his hydra partner about who the last scum is.

No, I play the game by memory, only reading up when I absolutely have to. This is my playstyle no matter what alignment.

I don't have a hydra partner and I did it. I reread code_x and shotgun to make sure that my solid town read on them was justified.

Did I have to do it?

I analyzed the wagons. found the best suspect and its you and I want you lynched.

Where is this analysis?

and then you begin the day not by telling us that you reread and now you think this person is scum.

I never reread unless I absolutely have to. Just wait, I'll get some meta to back this up.

you began the day giving excuses about your performance and then asked for more time to reread.

Because I actually had an objective then. I completely forgot about this game during the night phase.

And then when I called you scum.
You OMGUSED me.

Sure, if you want to call it that. I call it a vote on scum though.

Om thought I was obv town till I started calling him scum.

And hes using one tell which mcqueen used from someother game. and apparently that tell is used by only scum.
And the tell is Only scum would call somebody scum for being shitty at catching scum.

This is ridiculous even for om.

The point is, I caught scum with it.

And this is the shitty logic om.

its really bad even for you.

why should I magically change my read on you? because you keep telling me to? because you're using meta?

I'm not telling you to change your read. I'm actually telling you to read me and everything I'm saying. You keep writing me off as scum without anymore consideration. Which is something you wouldn't be doing if you are actually rereading as much as you say you are doing.

[Potack-ruv]

I have been defending myself, yes.
The point is, I have been attacking people too.

You are deliberately omitting the facts that hurt your case to make you attacks sound stronger.

[Potack-ruv]

VOTE: Red Panda
I cannot be fucking bothered wasting my energy on a VE lynch now. RP is confirmed scum from my POV.

[RedPanda]

I've posted the analysis already.

your friend acrv also commented on it.

why aren't you reading the game om?

the vote on you was based on my analysis.
You are scum.
You deserve to get lynched today with everything I have and seen about you.
Why should I even consider keeping you alive?
Everybody else has done something redeeming.

[Potack-ruv]

I mean I liked the om vs shotgun fight.

Lol.
Inconsistencies.

[RedPanda]

I mean I liked the om vs shotgun fight.

Lol.
Inconsistencies.

Whats inconsitent?

[Code_X]

VOTE: Potack-ruv

I'm tired of this bullshit.

I'm 50/50 over Potato or VE but the constant cries for meta are pissing me off.

Panda is town. Deal it with Om.

[Potack-ruv]

Ugh, frankly I can't be bothered arguing with you anymore.

My points still stand, you're still scum.
Everyone should listen to me, or they will face my wrath post-game.

PEDIT: You attacked me for backing off from shotgun.

PEDIT AGAIN: Why don't you try reading my meta? Why is Panda town?

[RedPanda]

PEDIT: You attacked me for backing off from shotgun.

of course.

I said day 1 shouldn't be all about the both of you and because it wasn't was the reason we lynched scum back to back.

[Potack-ruv]

But if I'm scum then wouldn't having me in the spotlight be a good thing?

I mean, you're certainly fine with keeping today all about you and me? So why was it bad back then?

[Code_X]

Why don't you try reading my meta? Why is Panda town?

Your meta funnily enough was the reason I didn't come out at the start of the day voting you. I'm aware of your playstyle and by gut - which isn't always right - but you just seem to have gone completely mental over Panda purely because he suspects you. Sometimes you have to see the game from other people's point of view.

As for Panda. He started the game actively scum hunting, he's been looking for town reads and expressed them, which in a game like this is just as important. He's been key in lynching two scums in two days and I know bussing is the rage but seriously the last scum isn't going to bus neither of his partners that crazily. Especially when RBD effectively gave up so there was no reason for the scum to bus her. I agree with a lot of his thoughts. Albeit I do think he's got carried away in this argument with you which has somewhat taken over.

I'd rather get a 100% win in this game also and if you're town Om you need to perhaps read the game and not play purely on gut.

[Code_X]

Unvote

[Potack-ruv]

This is my towny playstyle.
This is how I catch scum.
My reads may not have been the best so far in this game.
But I do have a good record for catching scum.

Like how generally my gut is alwys the best at catching scum during LYLO (I have like 5 games that can back that up).

My play is generally swingy, and I think when I use logic my reads are worst.
Which is probably why this game has had bad reads so far.


He started the game actively scumhunting. Has he continued to do so?
I'm not afraid to bus as scum. Even if it means lynching my only buddy (which happened in 412.2 which I linked earlier).
I've been expressing my reads, haven't I? I even got attacked for doing it too much.
So you agree with his thoughts, why does that make him town?
And then finally you end the paragraph with something that can be considered scummy. Well done, I'm completely convinced that RP is 100% town.

[Potack-ruv]

I've been looking for townreads too.
POE of all my town reads leaves RP and VE.

[RedPanda]

But if I'm scum then wouldn't having me in the spotlight be a good thing?

I mean, you're certainly fine with keeping today all about you and me? So why was it bad back then?

only one scum alive.

[RedPanda]

and yeah stop arguing pointless things.

you have a brain right.

some stuff don't have to be explained.

[Potack-ruv]

So?
If I'm scum now, wouldn't I have still been scum at the beginning of the game?

Did my alignment change halfway through the game or something?

[Potack-ruv]

Take your own advice. Maybe then you'd stop trying to attack me with bullshit.

[Potack-ruv]

ALSO HEY GUYS.
ACRV RESPONDED.
HE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE GAME SOON.

[RedPanda]

So?
If I'm scum now, wouldn't I have still been scum at the beginning of the game?

Did my alignment change halfway through the game or something?

It didn't.

Your alignment was camouflaged by your playstyle during day 1.

[Potack-ruv]

So my Day 1 playstyle made me look town.
Yet here you argue my playstyle isn't town.

What changed?

[RedPanda]

I've already answered this.

There are some playstyles which make people think you're town. yours is an example. Mine is an example also.

What changed is the way you've played the game.

not lynching scum.
behaving like a scum hydra.
not scumhunting at night especially when your reads were proven wrong.
OMGUSING with shitty logic.
ATEing.
And my analysis of everybody else.

so many things.

I'm getting tired of arguing the same points with you.

[RedPanda]

Wouldn't I be trying to fake consistency if I were scum?

PEDIT: Ha.

Wait, revelation!
VOTE: Red Panda
Last game I was in when I was on the lynch block for having bad reads, the person pushing that attack was scum.

You know I would never put anywhere near as much effort into attacking my scumreads as I have done this game if I were scum.

Thank you.

This helps me a lot.

If I was scum, I obviously would not have defended rbi because it would be an obvious scum buddy tell. If I were scum, I would bus all the way- I suggest you meta my scum games.

1) I could have tried to lynch... TAM, DMS, andrew, VE... all had some flack and I could easily whip up something quick on why they are scum if I wanted to. Im taking about the path of most resistnace possible at this point because I think you are all wrong for the most part.

Come on.

Don't keep telling us what you would have done if you were scum.

I don't listen to arguments like that.

OHHH

lynch this with fire.

where are my sheep.

also this.