Open 418 - Friends and Fun Times at the Fair (Game Over)

[Potack-ruv]

Did you now?

All I read was, "I don't want to be lynched because I'm scum and I actually don't want Potack lynched as much as I am feigning to want."

[RedPanda]

And we need a prod on mcstab.

I need his vote.

[andrew94]

Andrew, I'm not egging anything on. I'm here, and I'm interacting with my top two scumreads trying to get a better read on them. What the fuck are you doing exactly?

that sounds like what i did in a game with acrv, and guess what im scum.

@rp, i dont see a fucking case. the last few pages is full of your bullshit and potack's.

basically
1) u said potack was scum
2) potack responded
3) u quoted his response and said something
4) he quoted your response
etc etc


10 pages of spam

[Potack-ruv]

Go on, vote yourself.
Make it an even ground, may the best man win.

PEDIT: Andrew, just fucking vote one of us. Stop pussying around.
If both of us flip town, then feel free to vote VE all you want. However VE will absolutely not be on the voting block until we're both lynched.

[RedPanda]

Go on, vote yourself.
Make it an even ground, may the best man win.

PEDIT: Andrew, just fucking vote one of us. Stop pussying around.
If both of us flip town, then feel free to vote VE all you want. However VE will absolutely not be on the voting block until we're both lynched.

yawn.

[VisceraEyes]

Andrew, I'm not egging anything on. I'm here, and I'm interacting with my top two scumreads trying to get a better read on them. What the fuck are you doing exactly?

that sounds like what i did in a game with acrv, and guess what im scum.

@rp, i dont see a fucking case. the last few pages is full of your bullshit and potack's.

basically
1) u said potack was scum
2) potack responded
3) u quoted his response and said something
4) he quoted your response
etc etc


10 pages of spam

Yeah but I like....win as scum. *shrug*

[Mortontfrh]

And we need a prod on mcstab.

I need his vote.

Day 3 has been open for less than a day and a half. No prods will be given.

[Potack-ruv]

Yep, I knew it (well actually I knew it before).

You're confirmed scum.
Anyone who can't see that is an absolute dumbshit.

PEDIT: I assume you will be doing a votecount, Mr. Mod?

[andrew94]

ok RP and potack stop crogging up thread.
ill read over tommorrow after sleep.
if i see more than 3 pages of useless spam ill just make a better case on VE

[VisceraEyes]

Oh to be useless and confirmed. *sigh*

Why couldn't

I

have been one of the masons, huh? *dustkick*

[Potack-ruv]

ANDREW JUST FUCKING VOTE EITHER ME OR RP.

[andrew94]

Oh to be useless and confirmed. *sigh*

Why couldn't

I

have been one of the masons, huh? *dustkick*

sorry bro go look at your posts

'im confirmed town blahg blah blah'

your not

[RedPanda]

I never backed out.
I'm not saying I shouldn't be lynched.
I'm just saying you should.

you backed out.

you pretended to be a martyr.

voted for yourself.

told everybody to lynch me tomorrow.

then your scum hydra buddy bailed you out as planned.

and now when I call you on that.

you're backing out saying no no no no like a baby.

Basically

everything you're saying right now

boils down to

"You must be scum because you're trying to get your top scumread lynched."

which is shit logic

for someone who claims to be experienced at catching scum

hahahahah

thats funny om.

thats exactly what you're doing.

Before we had this 1 vs 1.

I was the one who made a nice case on you.

Okay, I'd like to see your reaction once you lynch a third scum.
VOTE: Potack-Ruv
If this is what it takes to get you lynched, then I'm all for it.

I just hope everyone promises to give RP death when I die.

I'm going to quote this also whenever you quote that and get you lynched.

I'm trying to survive because I'm town.
Isn't is obvious?

but you're trying to survive because you're scum.

you get a win win right.

your lynch gets you my lynch.

Why are you so scared?

you thought pretending to martyr yourself was going to make me back off and get everybody to think you're town?

Okay, looking through game (I've not really gotten back in touch with this that much since coming back...) but first thing's first UNVOTE: Potack-ruv

I'm going to check what the heck actually happened now, but just seeing that in my ISO on a skim really made me think "what the heck is going on here?"

Okay, I'd like to see your reaction once you lynch a third scum.
VOTE: Potack-Ruv
If this is what it takes to get you lynched, then I'm all for it.

I just hope everyone promises to give RP death when I die.

self votes to get sympathy.

tells his hydra buddy to unvote as soon as he comes.

damn scummy hydra using dirty tactics

And chrimi scumslipped.

Town can make mistakes.

you said that scum wouldn't do that intentionally.

but a slip is called a slip because its unintentional.

and he flipped scum.

so it was a genuine scum slip.

I attacked him for that.

you tried to make the slip seem harmless.

plus points for me;

minus points for you.

I'm one of those people who likes to policy lynch people who ask useless questions

Why were you attacking me for calling the Chrimi lynch a policy lynch when you were willing to policy lynch someone early in the game?
Don't give me any of this "reaction test" bullshit either.

Chrimi was obvious scum.

you called it a policy lynch.

Everyone answer this

If I offer to lynch myself, will you all lynch RP tomorrow?
1 of us has to be scum. And if this actually ends up as town V town then VE is almost confirmed scum.

Lynching me, then following my lynch list will probably end up in auto-win, unless the last scum played a superb game.

No.
It

is

town V town imo.

I'm pretty sure hes just trying to make it look that way.

There are some playstyles which make people think you're town. yours is an example. Mine is an example also.

So you basically just admitted that you may not be town. Cool, thanks.

What changed is the way you've played the game.

not lynching scum.

Because lynching scum would have totally cleared me.

behaving like a scum hydra.

How does a scum hydra behave?

not scumhunting at night especially when your reads were proven wrong.

Reading through my meta will tell you I don't read at night anyway.

OMGUSING with shitty logic.

Why is it shitty? Are you just annoyed I compared you to mcqueen?

ATEing.

Why is this scummy?

And my analysis of everybody else.

So because you said someone is town, they must be town? Okay then, you said I was town D1, so I must be town.

it would have given you town points. yeah.
lynching scum usually does that.
Scum hydras don't scumhunt.
especially when your reads were proven wrong. And yeah I don't believe that. I'm pretty sure any decent person would reread a game at night if hes playing to win.
It is shitty. You're using a shitty tell to overturn your obv town read on me. you're entitled to call me scum. I'm entitled to call your logic shitty because it is.
It is scummy.
I never called you town day 1.

Wouldn't I be trying to fake consistency if I were scum?

PEDIT: Ha.

Wait, revelation!
VOTE: Red Panda
Last game I was in when I was on the lynch block for having bad reads, the person pushing that attack was scum.

You know I would never put anywhere near as much effort into attacking my scumreads as I have done this game if I were scum.

Thank you.

This helps me a lot.

If I was scum, I obviously would not have defended rbi because it would be an obvious scum buddy tell. If I were scum, I would bus all the way- I suggest you meta my scum games.

1) I could have tried to lynch... TAM, DMS, andrew, VE... all had some flack and I could easily whip up something quick on why they are scum if I wanted to. Im taking about the path of most resistnace possible at this point because I think you are all wrong for the most part.

Come on.

Don't keep telling us what you would have done if you were scum.

I don't listen to arguments like that.

OHHH

lynch this with fire.

where are my sheep.

also this.

I've already answered this.

There are some playstyles which make people think you're town. yours is an example. Mine is an example also.

What changed is the way you've played the game.

not lynching scum.
behaving like a scum hydra.
not scumhunting at night especially when your reads were proven wrong.
OMGUSING with shitty logic.
ATEing.
And my analysis of everybody else.

so many things.

I'm getting tired of arguing the same points with you.

but it isn't om.

It isn't.

tried to lynch shotgun day 1. only backed away when you believed he was a mason.
then you went after mcstab etc.. etc..
disappeared when rainbowdash was getting lynched.

called the lynch on chrimi a policy lynch.

So lets just assume right here that your reads have been terrible till now.

After chrimi gets lynched what would a player who apparently is the beacon of townieness do.
He reads the game during the night phase discusses with his hydra partner about who the last scum is.

I don't have a hydra partner and I did it. I reread code_x and shotgun to make sure that my solid town read on them was justified.
I analyzed the wagons. found the best suspect and its you and I want you lynched.

and then you begin the day not by telling us that you reread and now you think this person is scum.
you began the day giving excuses about your performance and then asked for more time to reread.

And then when I called you scum.
You OMGUSED me.

Om thought I was obv town till I started calling him scum.

And hes using one tell which mcqueen used from someother game. and apparently that tell is used by only scum.
And the tell is Only scum would call somebody scum for being shitty at catching scum.

This is ridiculous even for om.

And this is the shitty logic om.

its really bad even for you.

why should I magically change my read on you? because you keep telling me to? because you're using meta?

I read you as town when you hyrdraed with DGB.
Because you were scumhunting at night and day.

I'm reading you as scum this game because there is absolutely no scumhunting at night and day.

How are you behaving pro town?

Because you're ATeing?

because you're caps raging?

Because I'm supposed to just believe your playstyle is town?

I'm not a newbie Om.

Guys,
I know my reads have been shit this game,
So let me have some time to get them up to speed.

In other words, I am going to do a triple ISO with different people against Chrimi and RD.

Actually Why do you need time om?

we all knew the mason death was coming.

the nightkill flip was going to give us no information.

you had 3 days after chrimis death to reread and catch scum.

What did you do with it?

I've been sidetracked with other games and the meatworld.

BTW, AcRv is finally here and expect a post from him soon.

Plus I generally don't like reading up during the night phase. I only ever reread when making cases during the day.

you guys are a hydra and you're not scumhunting in your hydra qt?

The hydra is scum.

Om isn't the way your hydra is behaving the way most scum hydras behave?

I've got many town games. you've got to look for it yourself.


Its not 100% town read on VE. the way the scum poked at his wagon seems to be like scum calling a town wagon shitty. I'm pretty sure you're scum and I want you lynched first.


And the POE doesn't leave me at all.

Om thought I was obv town till I started calling him scum.

And hes using one tell which mcqueen used from someother game. and apparently that tell is used by only scum.
And the tell is Only scum would call somebody scum for being shitty at catching scum.

This is ridiculous even for om.


VE Thinks I'm not scumhunting as much as I was at the start of the game. This is another ridiculous thing.

Start of day scumhunting check.
middle of day V/LA announced check.
end of day scumhunting which leads to scum lynched check.
day 2 another scum lynched check.
day 3 I'm the one leading a lynch on om check.

Explain to us VE.

TAM thinks I'm scum because he's an absolute moron. He thinks om is town because om played this way in another game. This is the most terrible Kind of play in the game.

you use meta to judge playstyle not alignment. Just another terrible player I don't have time for.


and this is why I'm town.

Not just that though; your read on RP hasn't even been explained but you're insisting on it being sheeped, you state a scum-read on me or consideration that I'm scum (Which I'm pretty sure is impossible to come from you as town given how obvious/apparent my town vs scum meta is) while at the same time appealing to me and you've got Code_X thrown into the 'lynch later' pile when his entrance post comes across as incredibly obvtown - not just that though you have a 'null' read on Chrimi when his voting pattern is incredibly opportunistic.

its rainbowdash playing the paranoid card.

Unvote vote rainbowdash

or chrimi I can go either way.

I chose to lynch rainbowdash over chrimi when the chrimi wagon was growing.

Guys,
I know my reads have been shit this game,
So let me have some time to get them up to speed.

In other words, I am going to do a triple ISO with different people against Chrimi and RD.

Actually Why do you need time om?

we all knew the mason death was coming.

the nightkill flip was going to give us no information.

you had 3 days after chrimis death to reread and catch scum.

What did you do with it?

Pedit: Yes, feel free to lynch me all you want if RP flips town. It could potentially be a two for one deal if you buy from me.

om is caught scum trying to get you guys to not lynch him by attacking me and getting you guys to believe its a town vs town.


stop falling for this.

If RP flips town due to magical fairy dust interfereing with the flips, then Code_X is scum. But I cannot be sure of that until RP gets lynched.

PEDIT: What is my scum motivation for all of those?

Also this is absolute horseshit.


Seriously om.

I flip town and then you want to lynch my solid town read?

The only reason you're playing this shitty is because you're scuim

Wouldn't I want to be on the scum wagons for towncred?
Wouldn't I want to use a different argument so I don't look like scum?
Wouldn't I not want to vote you to avoid OMGUS accusations?
Wouldn't I not AtE by fear of being called out?

BUT HEY, I DON'T CARE ABOUT DOING ALL THESE THINGS BECAUSE I'M TOWN AND I JUST WANT TO FUCKING GET YOU LYNCHED.

Pedit: My playstyle is very distinct. JUST FUCKING READ MY META.

Pedit: Yes, feel free to lynch me all you want if RP flips town. It could potentially be a two for one deal if you buy from me.

Oh but I think you're capable and cheeky enough to do it.

you're like a little me, atleast when it comes to playstyle.

I'M ONLY SCUM BY POE TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE SCUM AND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO INCLUDE YOURSELF.

you're scum by POE.

you're scum for staying out of two scum wagons.

You're scum for using the same arguments that both scum used,.

You're scum for OMGUSing me.

You're scum for ATEing.

WHY AM I OBVSCUM? I AM PROVIDING LOGICAL ARGUMENTS WHICH YOU ONLY SEEM TO WANT TO DISCREDIT BY NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO REFUTE THEM AND INSTEAD JUST CONTINUE TO BASELESSLY CALL ME OBVSCUM.

Actingmethod - mason.

mcstab - caught the venmar slip.

andrew - mason.

code x - solid town read

arugula - rainbowdash refused to bus chrimi. I doubt he bussed arugula.

shotgun - another solid town read.

VE - Rainbowdash in his first post called the wagon on VE shitty. That to me sounds like scum calling a town wagon shitty.


and who is left.

yeah thats you om.

townhunting works.

what have you done to make you town this game om?

THAT ISN'T EVEN A REAL ANSWER.
YOU'RE USING "I don't know" AS AN EXCUSE NOT TO ELABORATE, AND ALSO SO YOU CAN CONTINUE USING IT TO JUMP ON ME.

PEDIT: Gunny voting me is a big mistake. He should know very well I'm town.

It is a real answer.

You're behaving like scum.

Two scum got lynched using the exact same argument.

If this town is stupid enough to lynch me, then you must all superduperfuckingturbo-lynch RP.

PEDIT:

I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT I WOULD DO AS SCUM, I'M ASKING IF THAT WOULD BE WHAT SCUM WOULD LOGICALLY DO.

Don't keep telling me what scum would logically do.

I don't listen to arguments like that.

there better?

Gunny can confirm that this happened too. In case you guys can't be bothered reading.

PEDIT: So wait, I'm not allowed to change my mind?

Sure you're allowed to.

looks like a OMGUS though.

Wait, revelation!
VOTE: Red Panda
Last game I was in when I was on the lynch block for having bad reads, the person pushing that attack was scum.

and yes and that little bit just changed your obvtown read on me.

good bye om.

My main request today though, is that

I don't want to be lynched until AcRv actually gets a chance to post.

Maybe he could knock some sense into you guys.

PEDIT: Yes you do. You have played with me enough to not be making mistakes like these. You know my meta better than anyone else here.

you're expecting him to save your slot today?

That's not happening.

You're getting lynched today.

Lets look at it from my POV om.

You say you're a great player.
most of these players are average.
And most of these are players you've played with.
And yet your reads seem to be terrible.
There's something wrong with the picture.

I just went and multiquoted whatever I think is enough to get this scumbag lynched.

[VisceraEyes]

@Andrew:

I never said I'm confirmed town. I'll admit to overstating how townie I am to the rest of you, but all I can say in my defense is that I was overlooking you and almost everyone else excluded me on their "willing to lynch" lists. It was an OBSERVATION. You're right, I'm absolutely NOT confirmed town. YOU are.

But it doesn't make you right. I'm town, whether you think so or not.

Feel free to make your case though - but considering how closed-minded you're acting I doubt any defense I can muster will sate your bias.

[Mortontfrh]

Only one VC change, but sure here it is.

Current Vote Count:

Vote Count 3.4

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.


RedPanda (2) - The Acting Method, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes (2) - Andrew94, Drmyshotgun
Potack-ruv (2) - RedPanda, Potack-Ruv

Not voting: McStab, Arugula

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-20 17:56:00)

[VisceraEyes]

RP THAT is "pushing your lynch candidate". You did nothing of the sort for the Rd lynch, and you didn't NEED to do anything of the sort on the Chrimi lynch.

Will you admit to overstating your contribution to the two scum lynches?

[andrew94]

@Andrew:

I never said I'm confirmed town. I'll admit to overstating how townie I am to the rest of you, but all I can say in my defense is that I was overlooking you and almost everyone else excluded me on their "willing to lynch" lists. It was an OBSERVATION. You're right, I'm absolutely NOT confirmed town. YOU are.

But it doesn't make you right. I'm town, whether you think so or not.

Feel free to make your case though - but considering how closed-minded you're acting I doubt any defense I can muster will sate your bias.

Town should be telling RP and potack to stop crogging up the thread

if their both town, what can we gain from the thread? nothing

[RedPanda]

The chrimi lynch, I don't think I did anymore than other people.

the rainbowdash lynch - I got it moving.

[Potack-ruv]

If you didn't do anymore than anyone else on the Chrimi lynch, then everyone else musn't have done anything.

[RedPanda]

@Andrew:

I never said I'm confirmed town. I'll admit to overstating how townie I am to the rest of you, but all I can say in my defense is that I was overlooking you and almost everyone else excluded me on their "willing to lynch" lists. It was an OBSERVATION. You're right, I'm absolutely NOT confirmed town. YOU are.

But it doesn't make you right. I'm town, whether you think so or not.

Feel free to make your case though - but considering how closed-minded you're acting I doubt any defense I can muster will sate your bias.

Town should be telling RP and potack to stop crogging up the thread

if their both town, what can we gain from the thread? nothing

he thinks We're scum.

and this is good enough reason to not lynch VE andrew.

Screw it
UNVOTE: The Acting Method
VOTE: Rainbowdash

Venmar was the "Hey why'd you stop RVS" guy, and his posts were awful.

Yeah, no...pony dies. imo imo

In 5 posts, the pony has appealed to fear and authority, has played this little game about the "VT claim question he wants answered, but not really it's this other question, and it's SOOOO IMPORTANT" yeeeah no.

PEdit:
"Trying to get a scum lynched" you say? Which scum is that? He's been in the game longer than I have, and I don't know who he thinks is scum. He's going over everyone's ISO now, but why? He doesn't have an opinion after reading everyone in context AS IT WAS HAPPENING AS HE'S BEEN PLAYING? I did a full readthrough at work, in less than an hour, and I have opinions on everyone in town. Some stronger than others, but I could rattle them off. He's faking activity and contribution, and he's scum. And if you're as good as you seem to think you are, this would be at the very least ringing alarm bells for you.

@Soben
Well, to be fair Scumhunter had me fooled in the game I was in with him, and I think I've only played with you as town?

PEdit:
@Rainbowdash
1) No one is asking you to defend Venmar's actions.
2) Unless I'm mistaken, there are 9 days until lynch...and your slot has been up for replacement for...what 2 or 3 of them? Are you suggesting that if they should have ended the day with almost 2 weeks left?
3) What's your Soben read based off of? Or RP for that matter?

these are all good posts from VE.

I don't think we should lynch VE.

He's done something good in the game.

[RedPanda]

If you didn't do anymore than anyone else on the Chrimi lynch, then everyone else musn't have done anything.

yawn

[VisceraEyes]

It was moving before you came back. It died down because he started posting and people (read: Chrimi -.-) were opposing it...but Soben and I did MOST of the pushing on that wagon. You commented ONCE, about how Rd looked like "paranoid scum". Nothing based on his previous action, nothing based on his posts earlier in the game - a knee-jerk gut read of someone followed by a vote.

Seriously RP.

[Potack-ruv]

Eh, RP is just getting really annoying now.
I'm just going to ignore him
/inb4hetriestoaccusemeofscumforsupposedlybackingoff

[RedPanda]

It was moving before you came back. It died down because he started posting and people (read: Chrimi -.-) were opposing it...but Soben and I did MOST of the pushing on that wagon. You commented ONCE, about how Rd looked like "paranoid scum". Nothing based on his previous action, nothing based on his posts earlier in the game - a knee-jerk gut read of someone followed by a vote.

Seriously RP.

I'm sorry Chrimi was turning into the leading wagon.

The RD wagon was dead.

I was the vote which restarted the wagon.

[RedPanda]

Eh, RP is just getting really annoying now.
I'm just going to ignore him
/inb4hetriestoaccusemeofscumforsupposedlybackingoff

you try to insult me like a kid.

and I brush it off.

obviously its going to be annoying.