Mini 1349: Words with Scum (Game over!)

[Robocopter87]

Group of 5. 3 Scum.
2nd is 4th.

Still 3 scum.

How many scumreads you got?

[DCLXVI]

I guess lied when I said that last post was my last for tonight.

Read the last line of my reads.

[Robocopter87]

I did, I'm still confuzzled. If you have doubts on the amount of scum on your wagon, then why the heck are they all in the scum seciton?

You put 3 in the scum section. Me in the lesser yet still scummy section. Say that there is 2 scum in the group, and one amongst everyone else.

Sooo uhh, who is the scum? All I see is, "Everyone is possibly scum"

[DCLXVI]

Town:
Voided
ICEguy
LLD
whispersilk

Null:
Whispersilk
Amrun

Null leaning scum:
Robocopter

Scum:
Auros
Vijay
MoI

[Robocopter87]

Except you called one person in the group that you called not scum, scum.

You make no sense whatsoever.

[DCLXVI]

I'm making perfect sense.

Reads are ordered from least scummiest players, to most scummiest players.

Due to some of the wagon analysis I did, it seems clear that of the four players acting the scummiest, it doesn't make sense for more than 2 of them two be scum together. Which means that one other player is going to have to be scum.

[DCLXVI]

I just thought of something.

sorry if this is completely random but I really need an answer to it.

@robocopter.

You called the battle between ICE and voided to be town vs. town. I'm going to assume you have a townread on both of them (if not then say so)

I said that I considered ICE and Voided town bascially because of a tell, you called BS on me having a tell.

There seems to be some conflict going on here.

[Voidedmafia]

There's conflict in him calling BS on a tell you won't explain?

[DCLXVI]

Basically the conflict is that robo has a town read on two players yet considers it implausible that someone else could have a town read on those players.

[Voidedmafia]

Basically the conflict is that robo has a town read on two players yet considers it implausible that someone else could have a town read on those players.

Wrong.

The problem isn't the townread. It's

HOW

the townread was obtained.

Namely, the fact that

it's not being explained

.

[DCLXVI]

I intend on giving an explanation for the voided and iceguy townreads before day two ends. I have the post saved so all I have to do is load it up.

On my iPod at the moment and the post is on my laptop. I'll post it tommorow once robo responds to that last post directed at him.

Also, I'd like to ask that I not be lynched before then cause this is info town needs to get. And also cause some ppl still need to pick up tiles.

[DCLXVI]

I intend on giving an explanation for the voided and iceguy townreads before day two ends. I have the post saved so all I have to do is load it up.

On my iPod at the moment and the post is on my laptop. I'll post it tommorow once robo responds to that last post directed at him.

Also, I'd like to ask that I not be lynched before then cause this is info town needs to get. And also cause some ppl still need to pick up tiles.

[Robocopter87]

I just thought of something.

sorry if this is completely random but I really need an answer to it.

@robocopter.

You called the battle between ICE and voided to be town vs. town. I'm going to assume you have a townread on both of them (if not then say so)

I said that I considered ICE and Voided town bascially because of a tell, you called BS on me having a tell.

There seems to be some conflict going on here.

I called the battle between VM and Ice to be TvT not because I have a townread on both of them. but because the qualities of their argument indicate them to be town.

You however, have some "tell" that you refuse to explain and are mad at me for calling BS because you haven't given it.

[DCLXVI]

I was going to wait till the morning to post this but I'm back at my pc and a bit paranoid about getting lynched before I get this out.

This is an extremely important post. Please, please read this. I have been holding off posting this for as long as possible but I need to post it now so it gets through.

I have a confession to make. (no I'm not claiming scum)

I've been running a gambit.

This post here was the start of it.

Because I have town reads on both of them (voided/ICEguy) dating back to day 1. (which I have no intention of explaining so don't bother asking why. Let's just say they've both done something very townish and I'm waiting to see if anyone else does it.)

You see, while I did see those two players as town. I did not have any secret tell that they had done. So you may wonder why I lied about this. Let me explain.


I got the idea from a game that recently finished. Open 402. Here is what happened. In the game I was scum, llamafluff was town. Thomith was scum. These are the only relevant roles.

Thomith got run up to L-1.
Llama then uses a tell that he claims proves thomith is town.
I as scum immediately call bs on the tell, knowing that the tell is complete bs because I have inside info.

Basically, this is kinda what I was hoping for. I was going to call someone town for some wacky (or nonexistent in this case) reason and basically see what comes of it. If iceguy or VM was scum, I figured there was a good chance of scum coming along and calling bs.

I believe this strongly indicates that robo here is scum. He has a townread on both the players I was calling town through the secret tell. Yet he steps in quickly to call BS to the tell.

If robo was town and viewed VM and ICE as town, it would seem likely that a town robo could accept that DCL could have a reason for a townread. But since that is not what happened it is clear to me that Robo is scum. and either voided and/or ICE is the buddy.

The first reason I didn't call this out as BS immediately was because Open 402 had not ended and thomith was still alive, (so obviously I couldn't talk about it)

I figured I could hold off the lynch for a while because everyone would need to come buy and collect tiles. But now this needs to be posted.

Robocopter is scum, he needs to hang. NOW.

VOTE: Robocopter

I honestly don't care if you lynch me at this point. But get robocopter the next day please. I am fine going 1:1 with scum.

[Voidedmafia]

Problem with that

A.) I called BS first, not Robo. Thus i've also been saying it longer than him.

By your logic you shouldn't even have a townread on me anymore.

[Voidedmafia]

(Beat him by one post, but I still said it first.)

[IceGuy]

Someone hammer this scum bag, his reaction alone reeks of "scum raging for being put at L-1 by someone who is barely reading the thread".

Yeah let's hammer before collecting, sounds like a good plan!

My letters are G, I, and C.

I've been running a gambit.

Not buying it. (Although I like the conclusion that Robo is scum, for unrelated reasons though.)

I see where you're going with it, but town would also call BS on a secret tell as long as you don't give a good reason to not share it.

[AurorusVox]

I want collections before we hammer.
DCL not selfhammering is a towntell.

Unvote

I'm waiting on mod to see what tiles are available. We should wait for all the rest of the flips as well.

[AurorusVox]

Why are people still voting him when he could have self-hammered as scum?

Vote: MoI

[DCLXVI]

Problem with that

A.) I called BS first, not Robo. Thus i've also been saying it longer than him.

By your logic you shouldn't even have a townread on me anymore.

A) Obviously you did not read clearly, here is how the tell I am using works.

Town player calls scum player town with bad reasoning.
Scumbuddy comes along and calls bs on the tell.

For obvious reasons VM, your response is not scummy

from the tell.

Also, it should be clear that the reads I gave with you and ICE at the top were part of the gambit. You don't know what my read of you is at the moment because I have not shared it.

Not buying it.

Are you implying that I was not running a gambit, or are you saying you disagree with the conclusions drawn from it?


@ICE, also why do you think robo is scum, a quick read-through of your posts throughout day shows that you haven't shared that information with us.

[IceGuy]

Are you implying that I was not running a gambit, or are you saying you disagree with the conclusions drawn from it?

Both. I think you weren't running a gambit, and I disagree that only scum calls out unexplained townreads.

@ICE, also why do you think robo is scum, a quick read-through of your posts throughout day shows that you haven't shared that information with us.

Mostly because of his reactions around my and Arugula's wagon yesterday, also MoI as one scumbuddy focusing on me and Robo almost completely ignoring me fits well, and a heavy dose of gut.

[Quilford]

Game Board

Pending: Lady Lambdadelta flips tile D3. Lady Lambdadelta collects tile D3. This should be done when I next get access to a computer. (I'm on my phone right now.) Thanks for your patience.

Spoiler: Activity Log

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Voidedmafia flipped tile A4, revealing a D.
AurorusVox flipped tile G6, revealing a W.
IceGuy flipped tile H6, revealing an O.
DLCXVI flipped tile B6, revealing an M.
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile B5, revealing an N.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile I4, revealing a G.
2minds1soul took tile I1, collecting an unknown...
Robocopter87 flipped tile F4, revealing an I. 

MagnaofIllusion has used his daily flip.
AurorusVox has used his daily flip.
IceGuy has used his daily flip.
Lady Lambdadelta has not used either her daily flip or collect.
2minds1soul have used their daily collect.
Robocopter87 has used his daily flip.
whispersilk has not used either her daily flip or collect.
DCLXVI has used his daily flip.
vijay2vasandani has used his daily flip.
Amrun has not used either her daily flip or collect.
Voidedmafia has used his daily flip. 

--- DAY 1 ------------------------------------------------
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E5, revealing an R.
Hoopla flipped tile K1, revealing a C.
Voidedmafia flipped tile K6, revealing an X.
Lady Lambdadelta flipped tile D4, revealing an N.
Lady Lambdadelta took tile D4, collecting an N.
Robocopter87 flipped tile J2, revealing a P.
Robocopter87 took tile J2, collecting a P.
IceGuy flipped tile A1, revealing a P.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile C4, revealing an R.
2minds1soul flipped tile H4, revealing a C.
AurorusVox flipped tile A6, revealing a T.
Amrun took tile A2, collecting an unknown...
DLCXVI flipped tile F6, revealing a D.
Amrun flipped tile B2, revealing a V.
Arugula flipped tile D2, revealing an M.
Hoopla took tile E5, collecting an R.
whispersilk flipped tile G2, revealing a Z.
AurorusVox took tile A1, collecting a P.
MagnaofIllusion took tile B2, collecting a V.
Voidedmafia took tile C4, collecting an R.
vijay2vasandani took tile K1, collecting a C.
whispersilk took tile D2, collecting an M.
2minds1soul took tile H4, collecting a C.
Arugula took tile C6, collecting an unknown...
DCLXVI took tile A6, collecting a T.
IceGuy took tile F6, collecting a D.

Day 2

DCLXVI

(4) vijay2vasandani, Robocopter87, MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta

MagnaofIllusion

(2) IceGuy, AurorusVox

Robocopter87

(1) DCLXVI

IceGuy

(1) Voidedmafia 

Not Voting

(3) 2minds1soul, whispersilk, Amrun 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. 

Deadline hits in (expired on 2012-07-19 01:18:09). 

Prodding 2minds1soul.

MoI has declared Limited Access during weekends.
Amrun has declared V/LA until Mon, Jul 9, 2012.

[DCLXVI]

Both. I think you weren't running a gambit, and I disagree that only scum calls out unexplained townreads.

If you think I am lying about having did that gambit. Why are you not voting me? I'm kind of confused.

Also, I would like a link to where you called robocopter scum during day two and explained why you found him scummy.

[IceGuy]

If you think I am lying about having did that gambit. Why are you not voting me? I'm kind of confused.

If I had voted you before, you'd have been lynched; if I would vote you now, you'd be on L-1. Both of that is a bad idea if there are still uncollected letters.

Also, I would like a link to where you called robocopter scum during day two and explained why you found him scummy.

No such thing.

[DCLXVI]

If I had voted you before, you'd have been lynched; if I would vote you now, you'd be on L-1. Both of that is a bad idea if there are still uncollected letters.

True, still find it odd that you called bs on my gambit claim without going so far as to even call me scum.

Not buying it. (

Although I like the conclusion that Robo is scum, for unrelated reasons though.)

Also, I would like a link to where you called robocopter scum during day two and explained why you found him scummy.

No such thing.

So robo magically becomes a scumread for you (which you have NEVER commented on all of day 2) despite that fact that you do not believe I attempted a gambit on him?