Mini 1348- Dragon Ball Z: Saiyan Saga Mafia (Game Over)

[Benmage]

Also does Benmage really have less posts than the Mod? That's troublesome.

That's pretty normal Benmage in my experience, he's a posting sloth and your only hope is to get him in a flurry when he does post.
We can policy lynch him tomorrow if you want.

This is funny, because MoI's experience would suggest I should be one of the more prolific posters. And Thor is suggesting the opposite. MoI is more accurate here imo... and I don't even know where Thor gets his experience from, because in the Song of Fire and Ice games I usually am one of the more active players.

[BK201]

BK why did you fakevig?

reactions. I don't know what to make of the results, but maybe later I will if/when Snifit flips.

[Thor665]

He said GOKU SHOULD NOT COUNTERCLAIM

He said he though Goku was a PR too, so...derp? What's the issue exactly?

Worst case theory PR Goku dies tonight and we lynch fake Goku tomorrow.
Best case theory PR Goku gets to use his power and then maybe can counterclaim. It makes sense to me.

This is funny, because MoI's experience would suggest I should be one of the more prolific posters. And Thor is suggesting the opposite. MoI is more accurate here imo... and I don't even know where Thor gets his experience from, because in the Song of Fire and Ice games I usually am one of the more active players.

Really?

If you recall I pushed a case on you for not being more aggressive and proactive in that game. You countered that early on you didn't and I checked your meta and, in my opinion, it was true you posted in flurries - a couple of posts one day, then nothing for multiple days. I stand by the call - were you lying then or now?

[Benmage]

This is funny, because MoI's experience would suggest I should be one of the more prolific posters. And Thor is suggesting the opposite. MoI is more accurate here imo... and I don't even know where Thor gets his experience from, because in the Song of Fire and Ice games I usually am one of the more active players.

Really?

If you recall I pushed a case on you for not being more aggressive and proactive in that game. You countered that early on you didn't and I checked your meta and, in my opinion, it was true you posted in flurries - a couple of posts one day, then nothing for multiple days. I stand by the call - were you lying then or now?

Which game are we referring to?

[Thor665]

One of the Song of Ice and Fire ones - I did attack you with that case and that *was* your defensive tack to it.
If you really want to deny it I suppose I can look it up, but you could just tell me which time you were lying now and save me the effort.

[Thor665]

Though if you deny it we can always go LaL after I find it, that could be cool too.

[Benmage]

One of the Song of Ice and Fire ones - I did attack you with that case and that *was* your defensive tack to it.
If you really want to deny it I suppose I can look it up, but you could just tell me which time you were lying now and save me the effort.

You attacked me, that what? I was nonchalant/lackadasical.. and posted in flurries. And that eventually the dragon awakens and I'm a shinning beacon of awesome. And that I start games slow? I'm sure that was true then, as its true now, as its always going to be true.

But no two games are EVER going to be alike.

Some games I start in dragon mode. Most games I dont. Some games I never hit dragon mode, most I do.

So I wouldn't call the entirety of my play lackadaisical or flurryish. But early game? Sure. More prominant nowadays? 100%. Pretty much post crash/2012 play has not been as strong a reflection of my previous tenure. Mainly I'd say to being busier IRL, and burnt out some. So games might not see me as a prolific poster, and my content when posting may also be less.

(I'm sure this happened in the past as you're accussing me... but I'd say its more prominant now)

Kind've a forced change of play. Its why I realllly been trying to limit the amount of games I'm in. Also I post from my phone more which tends to be brief posts.

Did this clear the air? I don't like the force you're either lying now or then.

Thats just shit play there Thor.

[Benmage]

I wouldn't mind you digging up the actual case. I'm curios now.

[Thor665]

So we are agreeing that - early game - you generally start slow and only post in flurries with long gaps inbetween...which is what I was saying, wasn't it?

Why did you call me wrong and MoI right then? That was what I got peevish about - clarify that comment of yours and we can get over my Smurfy play of describing your meta the same way you do.

[Benmage]

So we are agreeing that - early game - you generally start slow and only post in flurries with long gaps inbetween...which is what I was saying, wasn't it?

Why did you call me wrong and MoI right then? That was what I got peevish about - clarify that comment of yours and we can get over my Smurfy play of describing your meta the same way you do.

I was speaking in totality of my play, not starting slow... Or maybe even having shitty gaps.

But that as a whole MoI is right that I am awesome and prolific and not flurryish.

There may be a slow start or shitty lows... BUT USUALLY its awesome.

[Thor665]

He didn't say you were awesome - he implied you normally would have posted more.

You're now saying that isn't true.

I'm now confused...can you go back and tell me if you still think Post 750 is an honest reflection of your opinion of your playstyle?
If the answer is 'yes' can you tell me how it connects to Post 759 where you seem to be saying something different?

While you're at it - what's your call about my summation of the Yates case, and why do you think he's lynchworthy?

[Benmage]

He didn't say you were awesome - he implied you normally would have posted more.

You're now saying that isn't true.

I'm now confused...can you go back and tell me if you still think Post 750 is an honest reflection of your opinion of your playstyle?
If the answer is 'yes' can you tell me how it connects to Post 759 where you seem to be saying something different?

While you're at it - what's your call about my summation of the Yates case, and why do you think he's lynchworthy?

-I know I'm putting words in MoI's mouth. (Imadeafunny)
-I don't see the difference in 750 and 759, but rather both refer to the totality of my play as awesome and prolific. (yes there may be lulls... but the totality is a high)

-Your Yates case will have to wait for tomorrow... mind linking it or naming the posts I can find it at..... otherwise Ill just iso you.

[Thor665]

You calling anything I did Smurfy considering how mealy-mouthed you got around this commentary is the reason you are not a town read for me, y'dig?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4172987

The case summation I did in the long ago time of 'around 8 hours ago when MoI asked about it'

[Benmage]

Yeah.. that pretty much why I am fine with Yates being lynched.

I dont get the push that GOKU MUST BE A POWERROLE RAWR... So much logical fail there I don't get Yates pushing it.

So thats #1.
#2 PoE, I have Aco for example as a town read.
#3 Its D1, we're likely not going to find a juicccccy lynch.

If we're picking between the claims, He's the one I want for plenty of aforementioned reasons (including why I named Slaandar town)

I am BAFFLED that you want the cop dead D1 when that would fix itself eventually anyways.

[Thor665]

I'll agree on the cop thing, which is why I backed off it - I mostly mentioned it for potential bragging rights later.

You earlier indicated early VT claims struck you as townish, why the reverse on the Yates situation considering that opinion?

[Benmage]

You calling anything I did Smurfy considering how mealy-mouthed you got around this commentary is the reason you are not a town read for me, y'dig?

I thought I was pretty clear and consistent in my statement.

You weren't exactly being the clearest either in what you were asking.

The attempted force that I must be lying there or here, was reallllly SMurfy( ) play.

Thats said your a town read... but then again, I don't think I've seen you as scum.. (or can't recall atleast...am I brainfarting super hard... were you scum in asoif?)

Can you link me or just name the last two games where You were scum?

[Benmage]

You earlier indicated early VT claims struck you as townish, why the reverse on the Yates situation considering that opinion?

Yates slowly delivered his claim right? First just a name.. and then linked to an earlier case, or something was just peculiar.. but even so didn't it come after my statement? So he could easily be OH LOOK I AM TOWN TOO.

Am I 100% super confident Yates will flip scum. No. Do I like any plausible alternatives. No. Out of the claims he's by far the best choice.

Like I said, I think Johnnys the only alternative consideration I'd choose.

Unless someone can show otherwise... what alternatives to Yates are there?

[JohnnyFarrar]

What'd I do?

[Benmage]

What'd I do?

Good question.

What have you done?

[JohnnyFarrar]

What'd I do?

Good question.

What have you done?

Clever. And granted. I did post reads and stuff, but that was a while back.

Question @ anyone who's played more than me, how do you handle fake claims?

[Thor665]

Question @ anyone who's played more than me, how do you handle fake claims?

Differently.

What's your issue with the current fakeclaim on the table?

[JohnnyFarrar]

My issue is I don't know how to deal with it.

[Thor665]

Unless someone can show otherwise... what alternatives to Yates are there?

I'll double check on the VT bit...you are correct about that, it was in drips. Basically he claimed Krillin and then later claimed VT when reacting to you discussing your opinion of early VT claims. I have to be honest with you - that actually feels like a MORE genuine VT claim to me, why do you think it's worse?

@Johnny - why do you need to "deal" with it? It's fake, that much is clear so...what of it?

[Thor665]

To clarify the MORE above - Yates reacts to Benmage saying he finds early VT claims townish and is like "then why are you up on my case?" even though he hadn't actually clarified VT. To my mind that reads as someone who knows their role and is reacting to something they think they did (a general concept of claiming their role) as opposed to something they specifically did (claim VT in thread) which reads as a mindset for legit town. Unless you think that was a wifom plot he put out...which I rather strongly do not.

I'm calling this lynch fail.

[JohnnyFarrar]

What's the point of it? He claimed a power and fake used it on a target that didn't make sense and is now pestering me about it. And no one else seems to have noticed.