Mini 1350: Spartacus Blood and Sand Mafia Day 2

[whispersilk]

Four hours.

Havingfitz, I feel like you're tunneling me.

@Fitz: If you had the deciding vote, would you rather lynch me or Phillammon?

Regardless, fitz, Let's get someone else out there to kill Phillammon. How about you?

Vote 2: Havingfitz

I believe both of us are L-2.

All you've done is urge everyone else to hurry up and vote, then waited to see who best to stick your vote on in an attempt to save yourself, while trying to justify it by saying fitz is tunnelling you when he is clearly not. You've not mentioned fitz once in all your fluff. You've done zero scumhunting while actively lurking.

You need to die.

[inte]

d3f3nd3r i would like to hear a rebuttal

[D3f3nd3r]

I'm at L-1. Havingfitz sits at L-3.

CLAIM: Vanilla Town

I lurk because the more you put into mafia, the more likely you would be to make a scumslip--even as town.


Yes, lurking works the same as scum, but for someone who tends to make "scumslip" moves in other games, it works.


Fitz is tunnelling me a little, not that much.

I put up my vote there in part (not all, but in part) because of ActionDan's 511, below.

@Defender: vote your counter-wagon.

If he really wants a vote on me, he can vote there himself.

[MattP]

"I lurk because the more you put into mafia, the more likely you would be to make a scumslip--even as town."

Intent to hammer :/

[inte]

thats so dumb

when you don't play aka lurk all game you give no chance for others to give an accurate read on you

i ignore scumslips usually and anyone who is smart enough to realize that they come from town 90% does too

you got my permission to hammer

[D3f3nd3r]

Your ideas are off:

Why lynch what you may call idiot town?
Why not lynch someone scummy?

Why lynch a guy who claimed town?
Do claims have any point if claimed town are hammered, and then the people almost always flip town?

[whispersilk]

When last did you see scum claim scum at L-1?

[inte]

will scum ever claim scum? no.

are you defensively trying to derail your train? yes.

do we need the reactions/solid vca/ predictions from your flip? yes.

[D3f3nd3r]

Chances are scum at L-1 wouldn't claim. They wouldn't claim scum or town.

If they absolutely HAD to, they'd claim town. Or, they'd self-hammer, if they knew they were dead.


If scum claimed town, why would ANYBODY claim?

Well, I know I did, but still.


P-edit: I'm town. in the hour and a half before deadline, try to get the results if I was town, and if I was scum, seeing if they'd work out.

If I were convinced that being lynched here would actually help town, sure, I'd be fine lynched. I'm not quite there yet.

[MattP]

I think D3f is actually a VI after 533, especially the first part. It doesn't even look like scum trying to be town, it looks like sincerely faulty opinions.

[whispersilk]

No, he's caught scum acting retarded in the hopes he won't be lynched. Do not fall for it.

[inte]

MattP.. this is obviously WIFOM, hammer him

[MattP]

It doesn't read WIFOM it reads genuine

I don't sit well with dr being on the wagon either now that I think about it.

Vote fitz, we have time to turn it around

[D3f3nd3r]

TBH, an hour and a half isn't that much time.

[inte]

we have time

[inte]

deadline will be 24 hours from the next VC. which will be up by tonight. Sorry :/

[D3f3nd3r]

Oh. Still, a day isn't a lot of time.

[MattP]

Oh. Still, a day isn't a lot of time.

Why are you trying to stop a counterwagon to yours? >.< Just don't talk for 12 hours

[MattP]

Derpy has good points on fitz, fitz's "whoops I hammered" post is scummy as fuck, and he has a decent wagon on him so counterwagon gogogo

[whispersilk]

This is ridiculous, Phil was just reading this sub-forum, now he's gone.

I cant believe you are falling for his AtE after the blatant scumminess over the last 2 pages.

[inte]

hmm i really like whisper

[MattP]

Mafia-n00b's jump on D3f3nd wagon looks too easy but I think him requesting prod on others are good sign.

This was the last dr said about d3f before voting him. Let that marinate

[havingfitz]

Derpy has good points on fitz, fitz's "whoops I hammered" post is scummy as fuck, and he has a decent wagon on him so counterwagon gogogo

Derpy's points on me are bullshit and equate to my lack of presence (4th of July) and the opinion that I am not scumhunting. The first point not being a scum indicator (and I am back and have been back to posting again) and everyone scumhunts differently. Who has scum hunt today? Until we have some flips it's all a crapshoot. I can tell you those on my wagon who think they are scumhunting are doing a terrible job because there is no case on me and I'm town.

As for the hammer....wtf did it matter? For one thing...it's not a reason I'm aware of that any of the first three people voting me voted me. As for the hammer itself, I meant it when I placed my vote (ie my intention to lynch Phil) and I explained my habit of keeping my own votecounts. So I got one wrong. Phil had his chance to claim (and still does for that matter) and he blew it. No regrets on my part for hammering him. If you guys want his claim so bad ask him for it.

As for D3f....his post wrt me is silly. He would have come across more genuine if he had just said he was voting his counterwagon for survival. He's not in my top 3 or 4 of suspects but like I said earlier...I prefer his lynch to my own and none of my other suspects are getting any support. I'd be happy to move to a Derpy wagon....or even a Matias vs a D3f. I wouldn't be voting my counterwagon if it was someone I had a town read on so luckily D3f is at least a bit scummy.

[MattP]

Would go agree to a dr wagon?

[inte]

Would go agree to a dr wagon?

no

you should feel bad for wanting him dead so bad