Mini 1353 - Dr. Who Mafia - The End of Time (Game Over)

[Starbuck]

Greenknight, today is your lucky day. I can't let two blatant misrepresentations go. I surely didn't take what triangle said in the way that Tierce did. She's being extremely overdefensive and overreacting to simple observations. I think some questions could be answered with her lynch. Her constant focus on Jason could be a distancing function, and I think we can learn more from a Tierce lynch than a greenknight lynch.

She has admitted to lurking as scum, all these excuses about not being here but nothing about anyone else until today? I think she just gave her own tell away.

Unvote Greenknight
Vote Tierce

[Tierce]

Nah, because it's

not

a towntell. My notion on ongoing games is alignment-null (see this).
I know when some things are do are towntells. This isn't and I'm blatantly aware of it.

Starbuck thought I was overreacting to triangle. I'm saying that my reaction to triangle has nothing to do with my wincon, because this is beyond that scope. I was mistaken, so I clarified that and (gasp!) moved on as I said I would.


PEdit: Come on, 'outing my own tell'? That is absolutely ridiculous.

[Tierce]

Mmyeah. My mood went on rollercoaster mode on the past hour (fuck you USCIS), so I'll save my notes file and will continue readthrough in the morning.

[MagnaofIllusion]

T-Bone has PMed to say his internet bill has been paid and thus he does not need replacement. Since I have not filled his slot he remains in the game. No change to deadline will occur.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 1.14 - As of post 454

Tierce (2) - GreyICE, Starbuck
Greenknight (1) - triangle123
jasonT1981 (4) - Tierce, Iecerint, CryMeARiver, kortul
Acosmist (1) - T-Bone
Starbuck (1) - Greenknight
T-Bone (2) - Korlash, Acosmist

Not Voting (2) - jasonT1981, Zang

The Current deadline is July 17, 2012 at 10:00 am EDT. Countdown is (expired on 2012-07-17 10:00:00).

With 13 active votes - 7 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - Iecerint and jasonT1981 have been prodded.

Mod Notes -

Korlash will be V/LA from July 7 to July 15.
Kortul is V/LA til July 15.

[jasonT1981]

Back tomorrow, busy weekend with work.

[Iecerint]

I have never played with Tierce before, but I don't really get scumvibes.

[Starbuck]

Completely off topic, anyone keeping up with the Comic Con Doctor Who stuff? Fantastic, it is.

This is the Mod requesting PMed links if you have any ...

[CryMeARiver]

Back from my V/LA, deadline is fast approaching and we need a lynch.

[Starbuck]

I'll share them here for everyone. These are from a panel that happened yesterday, the Official Doctor Who panel is happening right now.

Karen Gillan Talks Like A Dalek

Matt Smith, Arthur Darvill, and Karen Gillan Sing Bohemian Rhapsody

John Barrowman interviews Matt Smith, Karen Gillan Arthur Darvill SDCC 2012 *beware spoilers*

Lots of other cool videos via that doctorwhotvcouk YouTube account, also this is just too cute for words (and apparently, via some seven degrees of Kevin Bacon way, this guy is in my network of friends):



Now, I'm back to my term papers.

[Starbuck]

Mod, can you fix that last tag from [/url] to [/img]? Please and thank you.

[Korlash]

Hi ya'll, I'm back, but not really. I'm in the airport. This game is my number two so you have to wait until I get home, ha ha ha! But no seirously, Knows I love ya!

To make this post relevant, I just bought Shada... Anyone else see that? I'm not really into old school Doctor but I am seriously liking this book so far... If only I could read... ;_;

[jasonT1981]

Greenknight, today is your lucky day. I can't let two blatant misrepresentations go. I surely didn't take what triangle said in the way that Tierce did. She's being extremely overdefensive and overreacting to simple observations. I think some questions could be answered with her lynch. Her constant focus on Jason could be a distancing function, and I think we can learn more from a Tierce lynch than a greenknight lynch.

She has admitted to lurking as scum, all these excuses about not being here but nothing about anyone else until today? I think she just gave her own tell away.

Unvote Greenknight
Vote Tierce

I find myself agreeing with Starbuck that we can get a lot from a Tierce lynch today. GK in my opinion will not give as much detail for us to work on. I would be happy to lynch Tie today.

Tierce

[jasonT1981]

Seriously folks, read Tierce's words. Read them? Good.

She's angry that people think she's scum FOR THE WRONG REASONS.

My god, town-tierce would be like "fuck you, it's a town tell because I'm town, so lets move on and I'll do some really good analysis of this game." Scum-Tierce is like "well, I've totally done this as town before, really folks, this is a TERRIBLE reason to lynch me!"

String her up.

Well shit, I actually agree with Gray on something.......wow

[Zang]

-- You have one finished game with me, in which we were both town, which you're certainly not checking because it was lost in the crash and it wasn't recovered AFAICT.
-- You apparently haven't meta'd me.
-- You have an ongoing game with me, in which we're both unflipped.

How do you take conclusions on "what I know of you" since you have no evidence? FoS: triangle123

How is that scum motivated?

Well shit, I actually agree with Gray on something.......wow

Then why aren't you voting for Tierce?

[Tierce]

-- You have one finished game with me, in which we were both town, which you're certainly not checking because it was lost in the crash and it wasn't recovered AFAICT.
-- You apparently haven't meta'd me.
-- You have an ongoing game with me, in which we're both unflipped.

How do you take conclusions on "what I know of you" since you have no evidence? FoS: triangle123

How is that scum motivated?

Did I vote her?
No, the issue was that she might be using info from an unfinished game; I've already expressed my stance on that. I mean, how could she know that my lurking is not-alignment-relevant unless she knows I'm town here, if she has no further experience with me? But apparently it's not the case of what triangle was talking about.

I'm in the middle of an Eberron session, so no content posts tonight.

[jasonT1981]

Then why aren't you voting for Tierce?

Argh, fuck... I thought I voted him in that last post.. instead I linked to his profile /fail

VOTE: tierce

[Starbuck]

We have a deadline in just over a day and a half folks. Let's string up some scum.

[GreyICE]

I'd like Tierce, I'm quite content with Jason, because as I said I can't think of ANY motive for his posts. And his last post just reeks of desperate survivalist thinking.

"Oh god this guy I've been tunneling all game and alternatively calling terrible at this game or scum made a really good point. Lemme last second sheep!"

So one of the two must die.

@Zang: Why aren't you voting for ANYONE?!?

[Zang]

Did I vote her?
No, the issue was that she might be using info from an unfinished game; I've already expressed my stance on that. I mean, how could she know that my lurking is not-alignment-relevant unless she knows I'm town here, if she has no further experience with me? But apparently it's not the case of what triangle was talking about.

I'm in the middle of an Eberron session, so no content posts tonight.

I never said that you voted her. You did FoS her though and that strongly implies that you think something is scum motivated. So again, regardless of whether what you thought happened or not, how would it be scum motivated?

@Zang: Why aren't you voting for ANYONE?!?

I have a scum read on greenknight but I don't think that my read is voteworthy because he has not done anything since he unvoted me that is really scummy and since his wagon isn't doing anything anyway, I prefer to not vote him. There are also a few others also who I may vote for but haven't really done enough to convince me to vote for them. I also might be willing vote for Tierce but I don't exactly know what the case on him is.

I also think that jason is town, which is why I will not vote for him.

[Tierce]

For the nth time, I'm female.

Zang:

[H]

ow could she know that my lurking is not-alignment-relevant unless she knows I'm town here, if she has no further experience with me?

I thought it was a scumslip, wanted more info.

jason still needs quite dead.

[T-Bone]

Well anyway that was a weird situation here at home...

Let me find all the stuff aimed at me now...

Triangle #401 - I don't think GK as scum would put himself out there in the manner he did. He immediately came under fire for his beliefs, which makes me believe they are genuine. I read him as town right now. There are other players who have done more scummy things than him. I see comments sporadically about me defending him, and sure, that's fair to say.

I'm interested in this 180 on the Tierce lynch. We have come close to lynching Jason and GK, and in less than a page she is the leading wagon. The quick turnaround bothers me. I do understand the reasonings for it. The over-reliance on self-meta is a defense I don't like, and as a townie you don't need to do it, when you can point to stuff in this game. I find it incredibly scummy when someone goes "LOOK! LOOK! Look at me be town in this other game! Look at me have this same reaction/belief/policy in another game." I hesitate on the vote, because I am much more confident in my read in Acosmist. He is scum folks. No doubt in my mind. I've pointed out the reasons before...but to recap...he's taking a stance on the leading wagons (Jason and GK) that is scummy. Coincidentally the top two wagons just happen to be his top two scumreads. Misrepping what I said to discredit my case. He isn't justifying his scummy actions, he's trying to discredit me as a player. He's peppered in some insults, and finally has voted me despite never expressing a scumread on me before I started voting him. He is scum staring us in the face. I think because of his stance on Jason/GK he is linked with one of them. More likely to be linked with Jason, because I don't think he's scum, and his vote is on Greenknight. So he can express suspicion of his buddy Jason, while voting GK and getting the mislynch. Only when pressured does he abandoned this view completely.

Acosmist, so what do you think of Tierce. Is she scum too? Do we have a Jason/GK/Tierce scumteam? They are coincidentally the leading lynch choices today, and your top two scumreads are two of these three already. Or am I scum with Jason/GK? As a matter of fact, why am I scum? I don't think you've ever said anything why except that you don't like my case on you.

I maintain that Acosmist is scum. I think his stance on Jason and GK means he is linked with one of them, and I'd much prefer to see a Jason lynch if no one will follow me on Acomist. I think if Jason flips scum, Acomist has painted a clear link between himself and Jason. I'm not considering GK as scum with Acomist right now because I consider GK scum. Though I will admit I might be using confirmation bias a little bit, because I think Acomist will end up being scum no matter what, so someone else should think about this link and give me their thoughts.

CMAR and Korlash are back from vacation today, so I'm interested in seeing what they have to say with a new week of developments. I asked for it probably 10 pages back, but I'd appreciate your read on Acomist, Korlash.

[Zang]

I thought it was a scumslip, wanted more info.

An FoS is a weak response to what you think is a scumslip.

[GreyICE]

@Zang: Why aren't you voting for ANYONE?!?

I have a scum read on greenknight but I don't think that my read is voteworthy because he has not done anything since he unvoted me that is really scummy and since his wagon isn't doing anything anyway, I prefer to not vote him. There are also a few others also who I may vote for but haven't really done enough to convince me to vote for them. I also might be willing vote for Tierce but I don't exactly know what the case on him is.

I also think that jason is town, which is why I will not vote for him.

Okay well you're on the road to complete irrelevance since the deadline is in 36 hours.

[T-Bone]

I thought it was a scumslip, wanted more info.

An FoS is a weak response to what you think is a scumslip.

What are you refering to here? I'd like to see.