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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:31 am

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In other news, bitmap is town cause scum don't come in to the game saying they like hitler. That's just asking for trouble.

Quilford's response is null cause bitmap was just asking for RVS votes.

ICEguy piling on like that on bitmap is very scummy, along with asking for an obviously bad nameclaim leads me to say that I think a ICEguy lynch right now is the direction we need to be heading.

IceGuy wrote:Seriously though, what would you guys think of a mass name claim?

Did nexus give you an awesome fakeclaim you are dying to try out?
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:42 am

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VOTE: DCLXVI

That's a bad push and you should feel bad.

And yes, as said above, I have an idea how a mass name claim could be beneficial; I'm simply asking if anybody has any reason in particular why we should not do it.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:50 am

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So your response is an Omgus and AtE.

Overreact much?
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:53 am

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Amrun wrote:VOTE: MattP

Oh my God, you suck!

No to mass name claim.
I never said we should go along with Ice's idea, I just think it was town-motivated
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:54 am

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DCLXVI wrote:So your response is an Omgus and AtE.

Overreact much?


No, it's just that you're scum and it shows.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:54 am

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I took the hitler stuff as RVS and will disregard any form of town-read-giving on him for that alone.

IG, "beneficial" is fine by me, but if it's a load of baloney you're eating rope and a lot of it.

DCL, he has the right here; you're basing a lot of RVS stuff that could even be classified as town-tells (but shouldn't be) as a "direction we need to be heading".
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:55 am

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Oh and
unvote
vote: DCLXVI
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:58 am

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Staeg wrote:However, yeah, unless iceguy has some kind of shinig reason to do this, let's not.

Staeg wrote:
IG, "beneficial" is fine by me, but if it's a load of baloney you're eating rope and a lot of it.
God you read fake as shit

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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:00 am

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Yeahhh well I kinda got swayed over by the whole role-ability thing and then I went with "No, fuck it, worst-case scenario is we get a scum out of this".
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:16 am

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Votecount 1.1:


DCLXVI (2): IceGuy, Staeg
iDanyboy (1): Bitmap
Bitmap (1): Quilford
Staeg (1): MattP
Amrun (1): ChaosOmega
MattP (1): Amrun
IceGuy (1): DCLXVI

Not voting (5): iDanyboy, MichelSableheart, scooby, Shamrock, Vash

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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:43 am

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The mass nameclaim discussion is already giving scum far too much info. Stop the speculation, please, and focus on who's scum.

@IceGuy: If you think a mass nameclaim is a good idea, you should make a VERY STRONG argument for that. By asking general opinions, all you achieve is that you encourage name speculation, which is going to help scum find the best fakeclaim and identify powerroles. Very bad play.

Vote: ChaosOmega


The question to Staeg in #19 is flat out rolefishing. Answering it doesn't give any information wrt Staeg's alignement, and far too much information wrt Staeg's role.

@Staeg: there's a lot of information going around already. Why do you dismiss 666's reasoning as RVS stuff?

@666: Do you really believe that scum who received a fakeclaim would push for a mass nameclaim in the way IceGuy is doing? I could understand if you felt he was rolefishing, but your current accusation feels like a bad push.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:54 am

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MichelSableheart wrote:
@IceGuy: If you think a mass nameclaim is a good idea, you should make a VERY STRONG argument for that.


The question to Staeg in #19 is flat out rolefishing


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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:07 am

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For the record, I would like to apologize to anyone who despise Hitler for the treachery he has done or was offended. I just admire how powerful he got.

Anyways,

IceGuy wrote:Seriously though, what would you guys think of a mass name claim?

NO


That's the blatant equivalent of role-fishing and is extremely scummy right there.

IceGuy wrote:VOTE: DCLXVI
And yes, as said above, I have an idea how a mass name claim could be beneficial; I'm simply asking if anybody has any reason in particular why we should not do it.


Blatant. Role. Fishing. No.

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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:15 am

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Playing true to your signature, I see.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:15 am

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To be honest, Iceguy's post doesn't feel like it's intention is rolefishing. I believe he had a pro-town motivation but went about the wrong way of achieving his goal. He should have argued why he believes a mass roleclaim is a good idea, rather then ask the opinions of the other players on the subject.

But ChaosOmega was the one who really pounced on the mistakes made by others, using them to blatantly rolefish. I'm having trouble seeing a pro-town motivation for his questions to Staeg.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 am

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IceGuy wrote:Playing true to your signature, I see.

Ad-hominem. How is that relevant?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:19 am

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MichelSableheart wrote: He should have argued why he believes a mass roleclaim is a good idea, rather then ask the opinions of the other players on the subject.


I've already said that I won't go in more detail, but it has to do something with my role. If you're not ready to do a mass role claim based on that information, that's fine by me, but I believe it would be beneficial to town.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:21 am

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IceGuy wrote:
MichelSableheart wrote: He should have argued why he believes a mass roleclaim is a good idea, rather then ask the opinions of the other players on the subject.


I've already said that I won't go in more detail, but it has to do something with my role. If you're not ready to do a mass role claim based on that information, that's fine by me, but I believe it would be beneficial to town.


Hmm, actually I think I know what you are up to and that's actually sort of townish now that you explained it.

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:41 pm

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IceGuy's first post definitely seemed like it was hinting at his having a power based on rolenames. I still think there is too much likelihood of outing a power role by mistake, or at least letting the scum narrow down targets, unless we're going to get something seriously useful out of it.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:43 pm

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I don't know why IceGuy would even fathom of leaking that...
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:47 pm

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Because everyone was going waa waa that's a bad idea and youre scum for it?
unvote
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More than 80% sure this one's scum
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:20 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:59 pm

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Staeg wrote:Because everyone was going waa waa that's a bad idea and youre scum for it?


I don't understand. Can you rephrase it in a way that is understandable?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:03 pm

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He suggested a mass nameclaim.
Most people went "naw".
Some even called him scum for it.
So he claims that he has actual role-related reasons to suggest it.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:06 pm

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DCLXVI is also pretty bad.
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