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[Quilford]

But I like Michel and MattP. They are good townies. b(.__.)b

[DCLXVI]

DCLXVI is also pretty bad.

That's very insightful, care to elaborate?

[Quilford]

In other news, bitmap is town cause scum don't come in to the game saying they like hitler. That's just asking for trouble.

Quilford's response is null cause bitmap was just asking for RVS votes.

ICEguy piling on like that on bitmap is very scummy, along with asking for an obviously bad nameclaim leads me to say that I think a ICEguy lynch right now is the direction we need to be heading.

Seriously though, what would you guys think of a mass name claim?

Did nexus give you an awesome fakeclaim you are dying to try out?

VOTE: DCLXVI

That's a bad push and you should feel bad.

And yes, as said above, I have an idea how a mass name claim could be beneficial; I'm simply asking if anybody has any reason in particular why we should not do it.

So your response is an Omgus and AtE.

Overreact much?

[DCLXVI]

All you did was stack 3 quotes together...I'm impressed...

not

want to explain what is bad about them?

[Bitmap]

He suggested a mass nameclaim.
Most people went "naw".
Some even called him scum for it.
So he claims that he has actual role-related reasons to suggest it.

So how the hell did you equate that with me being scum?

[DCLXVI]

Omgus

VOTE: DCLXVI

AtE

That's a bad push and you should feel bad.

Ad hominem

Playing true to your signature, I see.

I'm fine with leaving my vote exactly where it is.
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I've already said that I won't go in more detail, but it has to do something with my role. If you're not ready to do a mass role claim based on that information, that's fine by me, but I believe it would be beneficial to town.

This is bad on so many levels. First off, I'm going to assume that this "role thing" ICE is talking about isn't a night ability cause scum could just nk him and that would be the end of that plan.

I highly doubt that nexus would have designed a setup so poorly that it could be broken the first day of day 1 simply from the information in one role. ICEguy needs to either explain how he intends to break the setup or get lynched.
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DCL, he has the right here; you're basing a lot of RVS stuff that could even be classified as town-tells (but shouldn't be) as a "direction we need to be heading".

This makes absolutely no sense..at all.

-Staeg accuses me of going after ICEguy for stuff that could even be classified as town-tells
-Staeg then says this stuff actually shouldn't be classified as towntells.

Secondly, I make a vote on the first page and you call me out on it being based off of RVS stuff...well then, what the heck else am I going to be making a page 1 vote off of?

@666: Do you really believe that scum who received a fakeclaim would push for a mass nameclaim in the way IceGuy is doing?

No I don't think nexus gave the scum fakeclaims, they already have plenty of options. obvious joke is not obvious I guess.

[Staeg]

I highly doubt that nexus would have designed a setup so poorly that it could be broken the first day of day 1 simply from the information in one role. ICEguy needs to either explain how he intends to break the setup or get lynched.

Not break. Help the town.

-Staeg accuses me of going after ICEguy for stuff that could even be classified as town-tells
-Staeg then says this stuff actually shouldn't be classified as towntells.

And then I say that it shouldn't be. Glad that you left that part out. The two situations are slightly different, which is why one could and couldn't, even if both shouldn't.

[Vash]

I will read this and reply in the morn. I've had a rough couple of days...

[scooby]

Iceguy is town, I agree with michael that his motivations come from a town perspective, I really doubt scum would try to break the game with role related information
I don't like staeg, his attacks feel inconsistent and I hate his jump against bitmap in last page, feels like going for easy target here
Vote staeg

[Bitmap]

@Staeg:

He suggested a mass nameclaim.
Most people went "naw".
Some even called him scum for it.
So he claims that he has actual role-related reasons to suggest it.

So how the hell did you equate that with me being scum?

[DCLXVI]

Not break. Help the town.

breaking a setup helps the town...that's the whole point of breaking it...

And I'm saying I think the mod didn't design a setup that could be manipulated (broken) to drastically help the town.

Pedit: I don't think ICEguy has role related info that could break the game, he is just making stuff up after people went after him for his asking for a massclaim.

[DCLXVI]

And then I say that it shouldn't be. Glad that you left that part out. The two situations are slightly different, which is why one could and couldn't, even if both shouldn't.

I didn't leave it out. Here, let me highlight it in a nice bold font so you can clearly see what I typed.

This makes absolutely no sense..at all.

-Staeg accuses me of going after ICEguy for stuff that could even be classified as town-tells

-Staeg then says this stuff actually shouldn't be classified as towntells.

What confused me was that in a single sentence you blatantly contradicted your reason for voting me, yet preceded to vote me.

Just to be clear here it the sentence from you that is the problem.

DCL, he has the right here;

you're basing a lot of RVS stuff that could even be classified as town-tells

(but shouldn't be)

as a "direction we need to be heading".

Notice how the bolded part contradicts the underlined part.

Your next post is a vote for me, the only time you mention me was the above quote so it stands to reason that this was what you found suspicious about me.

[scooby]

Not break. Help the town.

breaking a setup helps the town...that's the whole point of breaking it...

And I'm saying I think the mod didn't design a setup that could be manipulated (broken) to drastically help the town.

Pedit: I don't think ICEguy has role related info that could break the game, he is just making stuff up after people went after him for his asking for a massclaim.

So do you think he is faking that he has this info?

Why trying to suggest it in the first place then?

[DCLXVI]

So do you think he is faking that he has this info?

ISO iceguy.

You will see that he only mentions that he has info from his role pm that he thinks will make a massclaim viable in the last post he has made today, after he started taking heat for the massclaim idea.

It seems more to me like ICEguy found himself in a heated situation and is trying to get himself out of it.

[Shamrock]

ICEguy found himself in a heated situation

so you would say he is... melting?

but seriously look at his post on the first page:

I have an idea what kind of use that could be - so I'm asking for reasons why we shouldn't do this.

this seems like pretty clear role-hinting to me. he could still be lying, of course, but I'm not sure how you can say it came out of nowhere. If anything, that post above was really blatant.

[Shamrock]

Also what is "ISO"? Sorry, it has been a long time since I played a game on this site.

[Staeg]

And then I say that it shouldn't be. Glad that you left that part out. The two situations are slightly different, which is why one could and couldn't, even if both shouldn't.

I didn't leave it out. Here, let me highlight it in a nice bold font so you can clearly see what I typed.

This makes absolutely no sense..at all.

-Staeg accuses me of going after ICEguy for stuff that could even be classified as town-tells

-Staeg then says this stuff actually shouldn't be classified as towntells.

What confused me was that in a single sentence you blatantly contradicted your reason for voting me, yet preceded to vote me.

Just to be clear here it the sentence from you that is the problem.

DCL, he has the right here;

you're basing a lot of RVS stuff that could even be classified as town-tells

(but shouldn't be)

as a "direction we need to be heading".

Notice how the bolded part contradicts the underlined part.

Your next post is a vote for me, the only time you mention me was the above quote so it stands to reason that this was what you found suspicious about me.

Uh, no - find a dictionary. Look up words "could" and "should".

Bitmap: you pounced at it in a scummy fashion. "I have no idea why would he leak it..." is what I'm looking at.

P-edit: ISO = the isolation function; it's found at the bottom of the page (more or less).

[Quilford]

Omgus

VOTE: DCLXVI

Not OMGUS. OMGUS = primarily voting for someone because they voted for you.

AtE

That's a bad push and you should feel bad.

Not AtE. What the fuck? There is exactly zero attempt to play on your emotions here. If anything, IceGuy's being humorous.

Ad hominem

Playing true to your signature, I see.

Not

ad hominem

.

Ad hominem

is attacking the player

instead

of their argument. IceGuy attacked your argument above. It was a bad push. This is just him insulting you.

0/3. Go find a dictionary and come back later.

[MichelSableheart]

@IceGuy: I know, and I tried to keep that hidden. What I'm trying to get across is that it was possible to argue in favour of mass nameclaim without giving away role info and without encouraging role speculation. You could for example have argued that it forces mafia to settle on a claim and therefore reduces their options of fakeclaiming a needed powerrole.

@666: So if your question to IceGuy regarding fakeclaims was a joke, why exactly did you believe IceGuy's request for a mass nameclaim was more likely to come from scum? Also, stop fishing after the info Ice has. Shamrock's #64 shows exactly that IceGuy did not come up with his role info to get away from pressure.

@shamrock: ISO is looking at a player in isolation. At the bottom of the thread, there is the option "display posts by user:". If you select a single user there and press go, you get to see only the posts made by that particular user in this thread.

[MattP]

Because everyone was going waa waa that's a bad idea and youre scum for it?

unvote
vote: Bitmap

More than 80% sure this one's scum

Wow at this jump!

I don't like how quickly you jumped off of DCL and I don't like your reasoning for it.

DCL, I want to see your vote on Staeg.

[iDanyboy]

I don't want to nameclaim and the 'I have my reasons' excuse is awful, how do you expect anyone to go with you with no reason, I don't like how bitmap votes him and then unvotes so easily with so little reasoning.

VOTE: Bitmap

[MattP]

Ooooh Staeg's comment just made sense to me. I was VERY confused.

Still, he's scum for the IceGuy fakeness I pointed out before

[Bitmap]

I don't want to nameclaim and the 'I have my reasons' excuse is awful, how do you expect anyone to go with you with no reason, I don't like how bitmap votes him and then unvotes so easily with so little reasoning.

VOTE: Bitmap

Our goal is to find scum, not lynch noobtown.

[iDanyboy]

I think you are mafia though and you was bussing him and then you used any reason you could to get your vote off him.

[MattP]

Our goal is to find scum, not lynch noobtown.

From like the 6 skype voice games I've played with Bitmap he only stated he sucked in game he was town.

Although according to his sig he's conscious of that meta by now.