Open 426: *Unspecified, as of yet* -GAME STARTED DAWGS

[Loranthaceae]

@Lora: What site is that standard on?

@Scigatt and @Shii Are you insinuating that I said something fishy? When you take the whole context of what I said into consideration it's clear that I was talking about my feelings when I got the role and not that I'm claiming to be a bad guy (as in I'm glad to be VT -> NOT! I want to play scum or blue obviously); People who downplay the context are likely to be scum because stretching this sort of stuff in this manner is not helping discussion. I got my eye on you 2

They're not even voting you and yet you're being overly defensive and starting to point the fingers at possible scum. How is asking "wut" or "why" in response to what you wrote somehow stretching what you you said and not helping along the discussion? I see it quite as being the other way around.

VOTE: Loranthaceae

I was overly defensive, period. It's ok, you have a good reason to let your vote lounge and not make any effort in hunting scum. You are safe for now.

[Chrimi]

Oh Chrimi is Town here. Nice.

Huh? Do you know something?

I am going to assume he was expressing a town tell.

Me and him have played so many games together as both town and scum O.o

[Chrimi]

Although, I don't like how Jal hasn't posted since page 2.

VOTE: Jal

Either jal is hiding under the radar and lurking, or he hasn't been on in a while.

[Loranthaceae]

Upon seeing how similarly Aragula and Jal are tunneling me I can say with ~95% certainty that they're not both scum. One of them is town or they're both town.

[Chrimi]

Gah I always mix arugula with jal, especially in that game I modded...

[drmyshotgun]

Oh Chrimi is Town here. Nice.

Huh? Do you know something?

Yes I do.

[drmyshotgun]

Gah I always mix arugula with jal, especially in that game I modded...

So I wasn't alone.
I get a few people mixed up actually. This pair for sure.

[Jal]

Going to mosey my way through this thread. Hopefully this is the last time I ever do a wall of this magnificence.

Page 3

OH HAI THERE!!!
To begin, Random Vote:
VOTE: Greywing
This is like our third game in a row together... You stalkin' me bro?

The random vote on Greywing coupled with a comment on a recent post near the end of page 2, leads me to believe Hyperion hadn't really read the thread that much in-depth prior to this post and just wanted something to comment on to contribute.

This points to him being a derp more than being scummy, however.

Thanks for answering for him. ( sarcasm btw)

I know what sarcasm is

Don't answer a question I direct at another person. I want to hear the answer from them. If I wanted someone else to answer it I would have said so. <.<

Then don't ask stupid questions, the vote was obvious, and it looks like you are trying to defend Blastoide

This ^ pet peeve of mine. Don't do it.

Malakittens Blastoide team
VOTE: Malakittens

Not only does the coupling not make sense at this point in the game (how does asking for someone's reason for voting another somehow make them a scum team?) the reasoning used to vote mala is practically nonexistent and horrible. That vote was certainly not obvious to me, and there's no reason to throw BK an excuse.

More scummy and less derp.

@Blastoide:

As for my post on LH, how is it more wishy washy than other peoples reads?

I don't like the redirecting the attention onto other people's actions here. "Why are you point out

me

and not

them

?" I'm not getting an overly-scummy feel from the rest his post though. Feels more like confused town. Taking into account Blastoide's prior posts, I feel he started out being aggressive, got shot down for getting too far ahead of himself, and his response in post 48 was him trying to tone it back a little -

not

being wishy-washy.

I'm confused by this:

And Mala wasn't defending me? He was doing to me as you were doing to BK. Are you saying there is a possibility for a Hyperion and BK scum team?

Is this said jokingly? I see later you sort of answered this question. What are your reads on both Hyper and BK?

@Shiidaji

:

I'm curious as to why though, I can't see newbscum doing this. What are you seeing?

You don't see a newbscum or scum-anything being overly defensive or "OMGUSing?" That's what Arugula voted him for.

There's also no indication LH is newb-anything, as he's made it clear he's played several games prior to this. He's only new to the site.

Page 4

First off. It wasn't a stupid question and honestly I don't think you have a right to attempt to dismiss my wanting a question answered by saying that. I'm not trying to defend anyone. I'm trying to get my feels and reads together and you just got in my way by answering a question not directed at you. If anything you look like you're defending BK.

Secondly look at my posts in 416. I had a problem when Scigatt did it that game and I have a problem with you doing it.

Vote: hyper

This is indeed, OMGUS. A little scummish, however given Hyper's horrible explanation and vote on Malakittens, I think the vote and suspicion are well deserved. I'm surprised not many more people commented on Hyper's post.

@Rofl

:

vote: blastoise

loran is town. so are bk and shii.

at least one of the players attacking loran right now is opportunistic scum. probably arugula or greywing.

Why is Loran, BK, and Shii town?

Why am I and Chrimi not being "opportunistic scum?"

Scigatt's response to Chrimi in post 92 is right on the money. LH's first post was not scummy in and of itself.

@LH

LH's post 98 in which he says he's scared of a Shii rofl and Chrimi.

There's a lot of speculation and assumptions being made here that make me wary - such qt discussion. I always find people bringing up what might have been discussed in the qt to be very scummy. The points you make about their interactions with each other is very intriguing though and I can see some scum hunting going on this with post. However, you never change your vote or really call these people out on any of this. It feels like you're casting doubt on these three without doing or actually saying much about it. By saying "you're scared" of this potential combination, it sort of takes away your ownership of this "accusation" or however anyone wants to call this.

Especially with your disclaimer afterwards.

[Jal]

Page 5

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Yeah, this looks like a "town slip" by Chrimi. These can easily be faked, but given my early town read on Chrimi from page 4 (seemed like town rage to me), he seems more town than scum anyhow.

Scigatt makes logical posts, but I can't read him or his motivations worth a damn.

Arugula is being Arugula which means I can't read him either.

Page 6

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Blastoide and Malakittens both vote for Rofl one after the other.

Mala says,

Sheeping = tends to be a scum trait.

Although, it just looked like to me Mala just sheeped Blastoide that vote. I wouldn't be surprised if Mala is scum trying to champion Blastoide as town incase Blastoide gets lynched.

Not much more after this.

Page 7 and 8

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@Rofl

: Why do you think Blastoide is scummier than Malakittens?

Chrimi

:

After this many pages you must have reads on people.

LH

:

I was overly defensive, period. It's ok, you have a good reason to let your vote lounge and not make any effort in hunting scum. You are safe for now.

Why do you re-respond to a post I made on page 1

now

? Looks like you're trying to cast suspicion onto me after Chrimi's vote, but without owning up to it by saying I'm safe for now.

Why is your vote on Arugula again?

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I'll just make it clear - I haven't had the time to get back onto the site for the past day. I tend to be busier on weekdays than weekends.

How do you guys mix up me with Arugula?

[Loranthaceae]

Page 5

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Why is your vote on Arugula again?

The only difference between the two of you before you made your last 2 posts is that he is also derping around with finding the usage of red funny. If he can demonstrate that he takes interest in what's going on outside of his tunnelvision I may retract my OMGUS vote

[Malakittens]

FoS on Jal.

I was in the middle of posting the reasons to voting Rofl and I had to step away for RL reasons.

I did not have any intention of sheeping, but you twisted it into a context to look like I did.

Plus, whether or not my case is small Rofl gave early town reads that clearly can't be explained through post numbers. I'm reading those posts and my gut isn't getting the same reads. I think scum give out early town reads and have a hard time trying to explain it. Which then they clearly give the explanation 'gut'. I rely on gut for my feels don't get me wrong, but I do like to have posts that I can back it up off of.

[Blastoide]

Is this said jokingly? I see later you sort of answered this question. What are your reads on both Hyper and BK?

It is hard to say. They both posted so little. BK's main reason for voting for me was how I was hesitant in that one post, but is that scummy? My last sentence was a conclusion to what I was thinking.
As for Hyper, his reasoning for voting Mala was flawed. I can only assume he found me guilty of something but he never said what, otherwise he should have never voted for her.
I really hope that BK would talk more instead of his one line messages. I want to see what Shotgun will do soon.
For my final thoughts I would say that both Hyperion and BK were null-leaning scum.

[Scigatt]

FoS on Jal.

I was in the middle of posting the reasons to voting Rofl and I had to step away for RL reasons.

I did not have any intention of sheeping, but you twisted it into a context to look like I did.

Plus, whether or not my case is small Rofl gave early town reads that clearly can't be explained through post numbers. I'm reading those posts and my gut isn't getting the same reads. I think scum give out early town reads and have a hard time trying to explain it. Which then they clearly give the explanation 'gut'. I rely on gut for my feels don't get me wrong, but I do like to have posts that I can back it up off of.

Really? That deserves an FoS?

[Malakittens]

Yep. Jal is basically trying to say I'm sheeping a vote when I wasn't. Which is indeed a misused of context and a straight case of twisting. Scum tend to use this as a playstyle in order to make someone look more scum than they actually are.

[Shiidaji]

@ Shii: I had to step away from my computer to clean up a plant my kitten knocked over. I didn't know Blast was going to vote him if that's what you're trying to say.

Alright. What is your view of Blastoide, as you haven't really commented on him despite him being a leading wagon at this time.

@Chrimi's 158, I did not write that post.

Ommy, what setup are we using? You don't have it displayed on the first page :/

Do you not check what types of games you sign up for?

I originally checked, but I forgot, I like to have it on the front page for easy access when I forget shit.

You don't have a problem with that, do you?

Well, it would suggest either---
[A] You're town, you do things on a whim, are forgetful, and have townslipped due to not understanding the setup.

You're town trying to force towntells in order to feel more secure, which is completely idiotic but I've heard of it happening before.
[C] You're scum trying to force towntells.
I am leaning A or B however, if only for your disposition. I don't believe scum would be quite so... abrasive, when they are trying out a new meta for the first time.

Oh Chrimi is Town here. Nice.

I am assuming you and Chrimi play a lot together. What has he done thus far that has implicated he is town besides the slip?

Upon seeing how similarly Aragula and Jal are tunneling me I can say with ~95% certainty that they're not both scum. One of them is town or they're both town.

What prompted this? Why not do something with your vote, instead of letting it sit and continue to idly speculate?

Reading the JalWall.

[Malakittens]

I have a slight town read on Blast. Mainly the people voting him look scum to me. Therefore I believe it's a scum driven wagon rather than town driven.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi

:

After this many pages you must have reads on people.

I do.

How do you guys mix up me with Arugula?

No clue, it's just some people I tend to mix their reads and forget which said which.... You and Arugula are definitely one of those.

[Chrimi]

UNVOTE:

[Malakittens]

Chrimi, mind giving some of your reads out so we know please?

[Jal]

Posting on a tablet (shudder) so this will be brief.

@Mala: I derped. I saw two votes one very closely after the other and that statement of yours stood out to me - I somehow missed your post 153 explanation concerning the plant. I retract the sheeping statement. Otherwise, I am on the same level with you concerning Rolf's reads.

Who on the Blastoide wagon is scum?

@LH: To clarify - What are some of your scum and town reads?

[Chrimi]

Okay, personally I both love and hate walls.

I love them because it's a shitton more to read someone on.

I hate them because it takes too long to read.

Now, the jalwall, I don't like so much... Getting gutscum off of Jal, but I don't like going off of my gut too much.

P-edit @ Malakittens: Not at the moment, no.

[Chrimi]

EBWOP: No as in yes I do mind.

[Chrimi]

@Chrimi's 158, I did not write that post.

Oh my bad, I was trying to quote multiple things at once...

My giving a fuck @158 was @Greywing

[Arugula]

Page 5

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Why is your vote on Arugula again?

The only difference between the two of you before you made your last 2 posts is that he is also derping around with finding the usage of red funny. If he can demonstrate that he takes interest in what's going on outside of his tunnelvision I may retract my OMGUS vote

1. You admit your vote was OMGUS.
2. I am scummy for finding it ironic/funny Malakittens or Blastoide or whoever it was used red? That along with getting your gender wrong are piss poor reasons for a vote.

I really don't see why you all think he is town. The VT claim is null. He said it is a common thing for both town and scum to do on his old site. His overdefensiveness and OMGUS (both of which he admitted to) make him look scummy.

And I'm sorry if on Page 5 I was focusing on one person. Did I miss any groundbreaking evidence?

Also, Chrimi's "towntells" are too frequent and they seem faked. I didn't believe them at all when I read them.

FoS: Chrimi

[Malakittens]

@Jal: I have a scum read on both Rofl and BK. That who I think on Blast's wagon whom can be scum.

Rofl because those early town reads along with his explanation gives me a gut feeling that he's prob scum who can't fully explain his reads.

BK because of his vote on Blast without a reason and when he was questioned about it he hasn't answered. Along with him ducking the ongoing conversation and posting about how there's lots of 'cats' in this game. I think he's a scum laying low and lurking a bit because he hasn't engaged much into the conversations that has been happening.